banding and cutting

[juststeve (imported)]

has anyone here been successfully banded and cut? i'm aware this is an extremely risky method but i've exhausted all other avenues, i'm thinking of using a few bands for constricting the balls then cutting with a red hot razor to cauterize the wound instantly. any input on this subject will be considered helpful

[C&TL2745 (imported)]

Arrange your transportation to the emergency room in advance. I think you'll find the razor blade doesn't hold enough heat to cauterize more than about the first 1/8 inch of the cut. Also, if you cut too close to the band, the band could slip off the stump. You're talking about something extremely risky.

Sandi

[juststeve (imported)]

thanks for your reply! i agree its very risky but i think preparation and knowledge are the key to success, i'm plan on cutting a little bit down from the bands to eliminate the chances of the bands slipping, also the bands will be firmly secured in place beforehand.

[BossTamsin (imported)]

You'll still likely be needing to go to the ER at some point, likely when all the skin below the band (and some above) turns gangrenous. Gotta love that smell of rotting flesh.

That's assuming nothing goes wrong up to that point, the bands don't slip, you don't go into shock from the trauma, etc etc etc.

[tugon (imported)]

I also have to mention the odds of needing medical care afterwards. The risk of bleeding from not fully cauterizing, the risk of gangrene and let us not forget infection. There is also the risk of passing out from pain when you start the cut. If you have a roommate they might be surprised to find you out cold with a half severed scrotum. Most of all I have really enjoyed my life as a eunuch and I would like you to do it as safe as possible so you can have as much enjoyment. Please be safe and find a doctor.

[juststeve (imported)]

thanks for your input guys! i'm pretty set on castration, i've seen a few docs/therapists and i feel like i'm getting absolutely nowhere. i'm sure i have researched enough over the years to perform it ably, just unsure of some minor details.

[Dave (imported)]

has anyone here been successfully banded and cut? i'm aware this is an extremely risky method but i've exhausted all other avenues, i'm thinking of using a few bands for constricting the balls then cutting with a red hot razor to cauterize the wound instantly. any input on this subject will be considered helpful

Won't work. The knife will never be hot enough to cauterize the skin and not melt the bands. That''s a trade off that will let you bleed to death.

I know of things with heat. I'm a Chemical Engineer and Thermodynamics and I are BFF (have been for many years). If you get a piece of metal hot enough to cauterize the cut, it's going to melt the plastic or elastic bands. Then they slip off and you start to bleed profusely. Flesh only burns (that's what cauterization is, burning) at higher temperatures than plastic or elastic materials melt.

Suppose you had a heavy, cast iron branding iron that you could close glowing red of your ball sack. !) your legs won't spread wide enough to get that much metal there without being burning or scorching, b) you're body will tense up with that much pain and the branding iron will do much more damage than you think possible, and c) a the first smell of burning flesh, you and your buddy nearby will puke your guts out. Only death and rotting flesh stinks worse than burning flesh.

So I suggest that you find a nice, safe chemical castration method from talking to the eunuchs on the board who have used hormones and testosterone blockers and do that first. There's a number of them in England. And then, I suggest you find a doctor and start to explain to them why you want to do this. A doctor will make you a eunuch safely.

I'm not saying any of this to be mean. I'm saying this to save your life or your trip to the hospital and lots of trouble.

[juststeve (imported)]

i dont think your being mean! i started this thread to find out info and educated, informed posts only serve to help me, thanks!!

[sduyck_2000 (imported)]

you can contact dr arnkoff if you are desperate

thanks for your input guys! i'm pretty set on castration, i've seen a few docs/therapists and i feel like i'm getting absolutely nowhere. i'm sure i have researched enough over the years to perform it ably, just unsure of some minor details.

[juststeve (imported)]

you can contact dr arnkoff if you are desperate

michigan is a bit too far from scotland buddy!

[Caith721 (imported)]

Might I suggest (if you haven't already read it) you look into the ethanol injections thread (http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread ... -Injection)?

[KimiRhoze (imported)]

The injections worked for me and were enough to prompt removal. They were safer than banding/cutting for sure. I would consider looking for a good gender therapist tho, tbh I feel like I was able to slip through the cracks based on others experiences. The people that enlisted the services of the gender therapists seemed to get their desires quicker than the rest of us.

[Caith721 (imported)]

For what it's worth: I chose chemical castration for two years, first with Spironolactone/Aldactone then later with Androcur/Cyproterone, and performed ethanol injections for two months. This means there were no major shifts in my hormones and metabolism when I finally received my orchiectomy.

[BossTamsin (imported)]

Quite honestly, why are you unwilling to go on chemical castration for a time to find out what the results are like? Do you even know what the side effects and potential life-long consequences will be? How do you even know that you'll like the results, once you're on the other side and unable to go back?

[Losethem (imported)]

michigan is a bit too far from scotland buddy!

Sometimes you have to travel to get what you want. I'm amazed at the amount of people who say, "I want my balls taken off, but it has to be done locally..." To me that is a hurdle someone puts in place to ensure it won't happen because they are not ready yet.

If you're truly ready and are determined enough, you'll find a way to travel so you can get it done safely.

--LT

[juststeve (imported)]

thanks for all the comments and suggestions folks!! re: losethem, i never said i wasnt willing to travel buddy, i happily would its just that i'm not keen on the idea of a long haul transatlantic flight after surgery, especially in economy class

[thraddash (imported)]

i'm not keen on the idea of a long haul transatlantic flight after surgery, especially in economy class

If you do, make sure you get an aisle seat

[Paolo]

I would agree with LT - up to a point.

There are, however, people with travel-phobia who absolutely hate to travel. (No, I'm not bothering to look up the proper term!)

In my case, it takes every ounce of self-determination I have to just get in my truck and drive to work. Literally. And it's not because I hate the job.

I have to get half-buzzed just to go to the airport for the MoM, and snag a couple of mild tranquilizers before to get me into the rental car so that Jesus can drive us to our hotel. In fact, if I didn't have someone to take me the 55 miles TO the airport, I would never get there - as I WILL NOT drive that highway to Indianapolis.

I simply will NOT do it - not for love nor money. You could tell me there was $10k in cash waiting for me in Indy, and my response would be to give it to someone else or ship it to me.

One of my greatest fears is going somewhere and getting stranded. If you've never been stranded far away from home, there's no way you're going to understand it. Well, in my case, it was only about 50 miles, but still...it was winter, and cell phones didn't exist yet.

Yes, for me, 50 miles is a long way.

Jesus has also been trying to get me to fly to California for a couple of years now, and to be blunt - there's no way in hell I'm doing it. I get chest pains just thinking about it.

So as for the idea of wanting castration (or anything else, for that matter) done locally, I can fully appreciate that and don't automatically write it off as an excuse.

[NicholasUK (imported)]

The injections worked for me and were enough to prompt removal. They were safer than banding/cutting for sure. I would consider looking for a good gender therapist tho, tbh I feel like I was able to slip through the cracks based on others experiences. The people that enlisted the services of the gender therapists seemed to get their desires quicker than the rest of us.

I too feel as though I slipped through the cracks - although i went down the more dangerous route of banding - and I'm not recommending that anyone put themselves in danger this way. As with injections it was simply a way of damaging the balls to necessitate removal.

Juststeve, there's some good advice in this thread and I do hope you'll be guided by it. The safest way by far to obtain castration, leaving the rest of your body alive and healthy, is via the qualified surgeon route. So, Michigan should be an option.

[Milkman (imported)]

juststeve

To get an idea of how dangerous this is, maybe you should contact those on here who have posted about their experiences and problems doing a band and slice:

postatracura

ghostaumn

IEUNUCH

From what they have written, even with planning, it is a life threatening experience.....

[Paolo]

Take it from an old farmhand, even animals (which are much much more resilient than humans) can die from elastration without cutting. It didn't happen very often, but sometimes did.

Doing such is just too risky for a human - unless you want all the drama from doing it just outside the ER doors near the usual bush and being RIGHT THERE to be found for cleanup surgery.

[Chris1115 (imported)]

I suppose if you really wanted a reliable way to quickly and safely remove your balls you could ask to borrow Paolo's lightsaber... Based on the visual evidence I have seen it cuts and cauterizes through limbs, reinforced durasteel blast doors, etc. so I can only assume it would make quick work of a sac of balls.

[walker7753 (imported)]

just use a castrating knife to cut your sac open an use a burdizzo clamp to crush the cords . i have done this to one of my nuts and only took one day off from my job . however i put ice on my nut sac after i removed the nut .

[Caith721 (imported)]

just use a castrating knife to cut your sac open

That would be called a "scalpel" and the person using it should be a qualified surgeon.

[Dave (imported)]

just use a castrating knife to cut your sac open an use a burdizzo clamp to crush the cords . i have done this to one of my nuts and only took one day off from my job . however i put ice on my nut sac after i removed the nut .

And if you get an infection from non-surgical technique, you are in deep trouble.

This is very dangerous.