being passive

[gregwhite (imported)]

My boyfriend of 10 years told me we have a problem.

He is the strong top.

I am passive bottom.

He say and is right. There are time I am not so passive.

There are times I do not wish to eat his cum at his time.

There are times when I do not wish to have his penis in my bum. And have him cum there.

There are time I do not wish to have him spank me.

Now do not get me wrong. These time are rare but happen.

I only wish to make him happy.

He says if I let him have me castrated I will be almost if not 100 % passive.

Is it true that I would be more passive castrated and no male hormone shots.

If it is so I would do it.

[Losethem (imported)]

I'm usually not this direct in my responses however...

Castration is something you do because *YOU* want it. You don't do it for another person, you don't do it because it is a hot fantasy, and you certainly don't do it on a whim.

Now, if you want it, go for it. That is, if you've studied and have learned all the implications from doing it.

If your partner wants you to do it. RUN! That is RUN, don't walk, and get as far away from that person as you can. Now!

--LT

[The Lurker (imported)]

I do not think this is a good idea. The thing that makes you want to do the things he likes is your sex drive. If you are castrated, your sex drive will decline, and you will be less interested in doing the things he likes.

Believe it!

[speedvogel (imported)]

Both of the previous replies are very much in agreement with my thinking. Doing something, especially something permanently altering, because someone else wants you to is wrong.

I was much more angry and disagreeable when my testosterone levels were low account of my diabetes and a totally insensitive and irrational HR department at my employer. With normal levels, now, I am much more placid and agreeable because I enjoy life.

Speed:D

[tugon (imported)]

You should not alter yourself for another person. If this is something you do not desire for yourself tell him no. You could end up without any sex drive and not want him at anytime. Your emotions can change and how you feel about him could change. What if he does not like the new you and you break up. If he was not in your life would you have ever thought about becoming a eunuch? Do you want to live the rest of your life as a eunuch? This is not the time to be passive when making this decision.

Since I became a eunuch 11 years ago I am happier with myself and therefore more assertive than I had been. I thought I would just be a person without a desire for sex and I was wrong. I morphed into a person that was much different than before.

There is a lot to read here on the message boards. Read the stories about those who are happy and those who would give anything to return to the way they were. The one thing I think you will notice is many of us have spent years thinking is this right for us.

Please read this thread.

http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4616

[gregwhite (imported)]

I did not tell you everything.

I am 55 years old.

When did I first think of castration?

When I first saw a public. one hair. I shaved it off.

I did it several times as it grew back.

than thought one day why not cut my balls off too.

Why did I think that I do not know.

I had never even heard males could lose them, I just wanted to cut then off. I thought why not cut off my penis also.:dong:

I have never been very far from thinking of doing it.

You said never for someone else.

Well if you do not do things for the ones you love who else?

You never answered my question will I become more passive?

[tugon (imported)]

You never answered my question will I become more passive?

No one can answer that for you. We all react to castration a little differently. As I stated I became more assertive. If we could predict individual outcomes we could have saved some members from a lot of heartache.

[bobbie (imported)]

People that want to achieve certain effects from castration often do not get what they want. You want to be more passive. If the other side effects cause you problems you may not be passive but may be more angry or perhaps hateful for becoming a eunuch. Your plans may back fire for you and your boyfriend. Predicting results of castration is not easy.

As mentioned your love and desires to do things with him may loose interests for you. Good part of it is hormone driven. At age 55 your hormone level could already be on a decline. Becoming an eunuch may not have a large effect on you.

The smart thing would be to try chemical castration. It will give you the effects of being an eunuch. You will know how your body and mind will react to being an eunuch. It would be a good test for you and him. You have little to loose and much to gain this way.

[gregwhite (imported)]

good advice

we have a doctor friend who told me a long time ago he would take care of it if I wanted to go that way.

[gregwhite (imported)]

The doctor I talked about came right over and gave me 150mg of Depo provera. I was given 150mg after 2 weeks and now another 2 weeks another 150 mg.

i love the change.

Maybe because I wanted to be more passive I am more passive.

We make love more often with me on the recieving end. oral,:dong: anal and spanked.

I love him more and more and he loves me more.

I will stay on depo provera for a year. Then if the above stays the same or better I will let them castrate me.

[A-1 (imported)]

I am NOT going to justify this with a reply.

shakemitkshakemitk:shakemitk

[bobover3 (imported)]

Just remember that castration is irreversible. It may perfect your relationship, but the sad truth is that relationships sometimes end, even after many happy years. People change, things happen. The greatest loves sometimes end in boredom or dislike. So be very careful about doing something you can't take back.

[gregwhite (imported)]

I am NOT going to justify this with a reply.

A-1 the above is a reply.

I will reply to you. you make me sick.

you must be one of those who think that if someone does not think like you or agree with you they are crazy or off base or whatever.

I posted this on gay posting site.

I do not know what make you so upset.

Many men enjoy sucking penis.

Many men enjoy receiving it in the bum.

so if that is not you do not read gay section.

As to pain. I really enjoy pain. You do not have to enjoy it but I do.

right now ( who cares if this up sets you) I just received a very hard, and long strapping. At my request. I am standing to type this. I can sit on it.

I like pain better then coming.

If you wish to not reply that is ok by me. but remember

I am NOT going to justify this with a reply.

is a reply and makes people mad.

Good luck to you. I do not have any hard feeling but had to get this off my chest.

[Paolo]

A-1 : Yeah, that was a reply, and while I get the point of it, Greg apparently doesn't.

If you wanted to say "Don't do this to yourself for the sake of someone else," then you should have come right out and said it. If you were being your usual smart-ass self, this thread wasn't the place to do it.

Greg - I'll say it again: "Don't do this to yourself for the sake of someone else." Do it for YOU, and no one else, if that is what makes YOU happy.

As for any rebuttals to this, put in PM's or email or the little red button is coming out.

[the___ul (imported)]

"Don't do this to yourself for the sake of someone else." Do it for YOU, and no one else, if that is what makes YOU happy.

sometimes it's quite hard to draw the line between doing it for yourself

or doing it for someone else or doing it yourself through doing it for someone else

as i have always been the one to hesitate and ending up avoiding doing things

perhaps i can say, that careful path is not always the happy one

perhaps even a moment of happiness is worth a lifetime regret later

perhaps you can fall in love with first sight and true love exists

perhaps just diving in head first is a way to go

it's your body. you can keep everything or lose whatever you do not want.

but if you let others to make the decisions...

think of it that way: would you like to be a total slave?

would you like hand over all rights to your body (and perhaps soul)?

if yes, then the decision is already made. it's not up to you any more,

so just relax and enjoy the ride, whereever it will take you

if not, then you better make up your mind and stay with it.

but if you want my advice, then i'd say:

live your life fully and the crazy way, so go for it

but i would be a very wrong person to ask, because i always suggest

to do wild, crazy and irresponsible things. also fun things

[jemagirl (imported)]

My boyfriend of 10 years told me we have a problem.

He is the strong top.

I am passive bottom.

From my experience no one is 100% dominant and no one is 100% passive. However strong tops often forget this and expect that their partners should make every effort to accommodate them. They become conditioned in their own way to the expectation that their bottom is responsible for their happiness. In the end they are responsible for their own happiness JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

He say and is right. There are time I am not so passive.

That is a good observation. He should follow that up by respecting your limits. Again, no person is 100% passive or dominant. AND it changes depending on mood. It is important that he understand this.

There are times I do not wish to eat his cum at his time.

There are times when I do not wish to have his penis in my bum. And have him cum there. There are time I do not wish to have him spank me.

That is perfectly normal, even in a power sharing relationship. If he really needs to get off and you are FOR WHATEVER REASON not in the mood or able to reciprocate at that time then he can spend some special time in the shower using his hand and his imagination.

Now do not get me wrong. These time are rare but happen.

I only wish to make him happy. He

is very lucky and to have some one as accommodating and ready to play as you are. Even though he is the Dominant in this relationship your role is equally important. After all who will he dominate if you are not there? No matter what your needs are also important. Therefore he needs to understand that limits are inevitable, necessary and healthy.

He says if I let him have me castrated I will be almost if not 100 % passive.

On the other hand if he gets castrated maybe his needs won't be so great But seriously there is a strong possibility that you will be even less sexually inclined. Remember that your millage may vary. Just as castration affects everyone differently so does testosterone. Your need to be a passive bottom may be fueled by testosterone and the need may disappear along with with your testicles shortly after castration.

Is it true that I would be more passive castrated and no male hormone shots. If it is so I would do it.

Since this is unknown and unanswerable the best option is a test drive with chemical castration. AND what ever you do remember that relationships no matter how stable and loving are not as permanent as surgical castration. So think long and hard on that point before you make the decision to go under the scalpel.

[calmeilles (imported)]

But seriously there is a strong possibility that you will be even less sexually inclined. Remember that your mileage may vary. Just as castration affects everyone differently so does testosterone. Your need to be a passive bottom may be fuelled by testosterone and the need may disappear along with with your testicles shortly after castration.

This is a great fear for the submissive with castration fantasies: will I still want to be submissive without the sexual urge? Will there still be satisfaction and fulfilment in being dominated?

A couple of guys I've spoken to at length have described the post-castration sex act as tedious, boring, pointless and in other similar terms. Others react differently, but there's no certain way of predicting what you will feel.

This really is a case where a trial of chemical castration would be invaluable. If you discover that loss of libido does not have the effects that you and your partner wish you can adjust your approach. If you do find it works for you only then should you go on to consider the surgical option.

Matthew

[EunuchAusTX (imported)]

I think you are confusing being submissive and being passive. They are definitely NOT the same thing, and being submissive doesn't mean giving up your own will completely. If you have a submissive personality that will remain after castration, however if you are simply a sexual submissive, that will diminish considerably. To me being passive means having no will of your own and is not something anyone should aspire to. If your partner wants a passive doormat let him go find someone with no self-esteem to push around.

I can echo Tugon's sentiment in that I myself have also become more assertive since my castration, in addition to being more serene and less apt to stress out. I have also completely lost my taste for semen, and from what I have heard that is a common side effect of testosterone loss. You and your partner definitely need to do your research and have LOTS of discussions about all possible outcomes before proceeding. I met my partner after making the decision to be castrated but before having the procedure, and it was only after many long discussions and making sure we were both on the same page about it that I went forward.

Lastly, I will join the chorus in saying you should only do this if it is what YOU want. If someone else is pressuring you to lost your testes, get as far away from that person as possible!

[gordon..j (imported)]

I'd just like to say that,in my opinion,that it is possible to enjoy passive sex without 'heavy male hormones being the driving force.I can really only speak for myself,Iam not a eunich, and with a little luck I hope to go for my penectomy next year.Iv'e had sex with a eunich, and that was on a very rare occasion when I wasn't passive,that guy really enjoyed it! That was long before I had even heard of the 'Archive',also many times, Iv'e had sex without being 'overly up for it' so to speak.I don't have a stong sex drive, but find that I enjoy the 'tactile stuff' the warmth of my partners body,his weight of his body- bending- over- mine,the power of his thrust, etc.I would say that we are all different,it sounds to me that your 'heart and soul' are up to be castrated,you want it badly,no matter the opinions of others.why not try a penectomy?lots of guys would find that a real turn on! Ive a list of interested men friends waiting.Good luck anyway.

[drew28 (imported)]

My boyfriend of 10 years told me we have a problem.

He is the strong top.

I am passive bottom.

He say and is right. There are time I am not so passive.

There are times I do not wish to eat his cum at his time.

There are times when I do not wish to have his penis in my bum. And have him cum there.

There are time I do not wish to have him spank me.

Now do not get me wrong. These time are rare but happen.

I only wish to make him happy.

He says if I let him have me castrated I will be almost if not 100 % passive.

Is it true that I would be more passive castrated and no male hormone shots.

If it is so I would do it.

Greg if you know you want to be castrated then go for it. I think the idea is exciting. Off an on I have desired to become female and can relate to what you talk about. I desire to suck a mans penis and taste his cum too. I am very passive.

[Elizabeth (imported)]

Greg,

I don't think you should do this for your partner no matter how much you love him. Change has to come from within us, not from external pressure. If castration is something you feel strongly about personally and have a desire to rid your body of these testosterone producers, I understand that. However, if you are doing it because you think it will make your partner love you more, you should not do it. It has to be something you want.

Elizabeth

[gregwhite (imported)]

dear drew28

thank you for the nice reply.

I have thought of having my full package cut off since I cut that first hair that grew down there.



As for sucking on penis. I love it. I remember the first time. we were talking and it came around to blow job. He said he was hard and pulled it out of his pants to prove it.

he was really big with big balls. He said it is ok to touch it. I put my hand on it and pulled away. after several tries I held it in my hand and jacked it a little.

kiss it he said.

I put my mouth near it 3 tmes but pulled away. then the 4th time he put his hand on the back of my head. He never forced me but I kiss the shaft. I licked it a little then to my surprise I let it into mouth. I thought what do I have in my mouth. another man penis and then started to suck on it. He taught me to lick the shaft, to suck the balls. and to run my tongue around the head.

I was sucking away and he held my head in place and started to cum in my mouth. He came so much I had to eat it. I loved it first off.

After ward we talked for a while then he was hard again so I sucked him off again.

go to google, there are sites that tell how to give great head.

good luck and happy sucking.

[gregwhite (imported)]

I have had another shot and love what has happened to me and my body.

I almost never think of sex.

when he wishes to make love to me I let him. I enjoy it but would not think to ask for it.

when he points to his balls I get on my knees and give him is bj eating every drop. I do enjoy it.

when he wishes to beat me I lay over a spanking bench and he ties me down and beats me long and very hard. There is a lot of pain I love it.

I am thinking of not waiting a year but to be castrated soon.

[nullorchis (imported)]

Gregwhite: Believe it or not: There is more to life than sex. In fact, MOST of life. What you might try is complete avoidance of sex for 90 days. What else interests you? Engage in it.

Ask your sex-partner to join you in this experiment.

Who knows, you might find a whole new way of living.

Everything in moderation.

If your sex-partner doesn't respect you enough to participate in this, then you have to make some decisions.

[OneBallBoi (imported)]

Why can't we just be totally emotionless? Seems as Eunuchs we have more emotions and find ourselves hurt more not less. Momma always said that expressing emotions was wrong. I think she is right now. I got hurt from expressing emotions so I am withdrawing from ever expressing emotion again. I should have done what my instincts were years ago. I should moved back to never never land where I saw no one for at least 6 months of the year except me and my dog.