We actually did have some members with the 'testicles present, penis removed' configuration on EAv2, some voluntary, and some due to medical / trauma causes, but I agree it doesn't seem like a common situation. I also don't know of a distinct term for that set of bits...

I do seem to recall that there was a historical precedent in the Roman Empire where supposedly some of the gladiator slaves in the Coliseum were penectomized but left with their testicles. Supposedly the idea was that they would be more fierce as fighters (due to frustration?) but not have the loss of muscle mass that would have gone with removing the testicles.... I believe they were still called eunuchs, despite still having balls....

Personally my approach to use of the term is that in person and related contexts I present as straight male, and don't discuss things beyond that - I let people believe what they think they see.... In medical contexts I DO identify as a eunuch since I think it can matter for my medical care. On surveys and similar forms, I usually attempt to identify as eunuch if the questions allow it, otherwise I will use "other", "trans" or "non-binary" depending on the available choices... The exception is if it is one where it would be very obvious to people that know me (because they are running the survey) who I am, in which case I will stick with 'male'....

I also keep the "M" identifier on my drivers license, passport and other ID documents.... My reason is that the biggest reason I'd be showing them is to keep some government official happy, and I'd rather not trigger any biases on the part of "Officer (not so) Friendly" that might make him inclined to make my life more difficult than it is.... I want the cop to decide that I'm not the droid he's looking for.... The fewer reasons he has to be inclined otherwise the better...

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Friotler7 wrote: Mon Feb 10, 2025 11:19 pm The signs are inconstant, but the meaning and the significant remains more or less the same, as far as I understand. If you ever get to be castrated, than you would definitely be a castrated person.

Now, about eunuchs, it doesn't mean the same as "bed watchman" to I don't think it makes sense to revoke present meanings and recover the old ones.

A thing that bothers me is that we don't have words that refer specifically to a man with no penis but with testicles. We have:

Nullo -> no testicles, no penis;

Castrated -> no testicles, has penis;

Eunuch -> can be a nullo or a castrated man.

We could use penectomized, aphallic, peniless or dickless to refer to that man, but I don't like much of their sounding. I wish we had a better sign that remained with a radical to other languages, just like "Eunuch" is "Eunuco" in portuguese.

Eunuch translates to the same as in Portuguese (Eunuco) in Spanish actually!

Not that I'm fluent or anything, but in German it's "der Eunuch" or "der Kastrat."

NaturalEunuch: Shouldn't be "das Eunuch or das Kastrat."

1smoothguy wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 10:58 am NaturalEunuch: Shouldn't be "das Eunuch or das Kastrat."

You would think so! German articles often make no sense.

TheRagingEunuch wrote: Thu Apr 03, 2025 7:29 am "Eunuch" isn't exactly the fanciest word.

It would have been nice if we had a word without so much historical baggage.

"Eunuch is just a term referring to a castrated human male. Whether you chose to identify with that term is ultimately up to you. That said I've been castrated and I like the term, it's a nice descriptive term and I enjoy the way it sounds."

Our family Practitioner referred to me as a "Eunuch" as long as I can remember. When I was little, I thought it was cute and my parents said it was because I was "unique". They explained it further when I was around 12. I should not be called "Castrated", because I never could be. As a Eunuch/Male, I dislike being called "Mister", but I tolerate it.

As others have said, it's merely an identity to hang your hat on if you so choose. The important thing to remember is that your identity is for you to define, not others. Nothing says you can't be castrated and continue carrying on in the world as a man or identifying as something else, perhaps non-binary. This is but one of many of the man-made constructs the matrix tries to enslave us with, nothing more, nothing less.

"As others have said, it's merely an identity to hang your hat on if you so choose. The important thing to remember is that your identity is for you to define, not others. Nothing says you can't be castrated and continue carrying on in the world as a man or identifying as something else, perhaps non-binary. This is but one of many of the man-made constructs the matrix tries to enslave us with, nothing more, nothing less."

You are 100% correct. Thank you!