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For what it is worth, in the current incarnation of the EA, since about 2001 or 02, we have had well in excess of 30,000 registrants. Most don't stick around beyond an initial look see. Many have been deleted over the ages for lack of activity

Despite Google and Bing banning us, we still get 3-5 new registrations a day.

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:50 am The biggest problem for those of us who have been here for years and years is that we have seen it all and herd it all, I would love for someone to post something new but that happens rarely. However, when someone is new or been here a long time and finally starts to post the old timers will respond, we will very seldom ever start a post.

And Amm, you can see we do respond, its up to you to start the thread.

River

As they say...perhaps to much river under the balls....or is that balls under the bridge...no, perhaps water in the balls! ...oh you know what I mean!

:DSeems like a cool place so far.. Lots of interesting people

Didn't know about the Google/Bing ban. I found EA on Google years ago. Do they offer an explanation? What would it take for them to change their mind?

Seems to me EA meets all the criteria for an information-based site Google uses for its AdWords service. I know how short of funds EA is, but I wonder about a $50 or even $25 campaign on Google AdWords. Google policy, so I understand, is to display and rank all sites buying AdWords from them.

Anyway, there are many forms of castration, psychological as well as physical. It can be very difficult to talk about. Many people may not have their feelings sufficiently organized to talk about them. But the presence of a kindred community is still important. Even lurking may be therapeutic.

Would it be acceptable to e-mail those who are registered, perhaps with questions about their interests, how they use the site, or reminders of some of the sites features? In other words, e-mail marketing.

Just did a Google search for "Eunuch Archive," and it came right up. Search for "eunuch stories," and "eunuch archive" is listed as a related search at the bottom of the page. Search for "eunuch," and Eunuch Archive heads the fifth page of results. Of course, not many people reach the fifth page.

Has anyone tried "search engine optimization" or SEO? I know that much time is already invested in the site, but there are ways to raise EA's ranking in search results. Google looks at the number of other sites that link to a site. The more inbound links to a site, the closer it gets to the top of the listings. Increasing inbound links by posting brief articles on other sites (there are sites which consist entirely of such articles), bulletin board postings with a link, or even just asking the webmasters of other compatible sites to post a link to EA is a way of increasing inbound links and rising in the rankings. There are groups which will do (free) press releases that go to hundreds of publications. A few mentions in small papers can boost visibility on the net, especially if the site URL is included. If anyone has a video, or wants to make one, it can be posted on YouTube with an accompanying link to EA.

Please excuse me if all these things have already been done, or discarded as goofy, or if they're too much trouble. I'm just trying to be helpful.

bobover3 (imported) wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:07 pm Just did a Google search for "Eunuch Archive," and it came right up. Search for "eunuch stories," and "eunuch archive" is listed as a related search at the bottom of the page. Search for "eunuch," and Eunuch Archive heads the fifth page of results. Of course, not many people reach the fifth page.

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bobover3 (imported) wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:07 pm Please excuse me if all these things have already been done, or discarded as goofy, or if they're too much trouble. I'm just trying to be helpful.

Checked the search in google and on keyword "eunuch" got eunuch archive on the first page. Bing - gave me almost the same picture.

Interesting. I just did the search again, and EA's not on the first page. Rankings may change from second to second, but they shouldn't move that much. Wonder what's happening.

I've actually been aware of, and have visited the EA over 13 years ago. It is only in the past couple of years have I finally felt knowledgable enough about trans issues, physical body disphoria and related issues to begin posting on the forums.

bobover3 (imported) wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:35 pm Interesting. I just did the search again, and EA's not on the first page. Rankings may change from second to second, but they shouldn't move that much. Wonder what's happening.

Different countries probably.

http://fhunter.mine.nu/screen90.jpg - here is the proof .

PS. And no, the eunuch archive is not dead. Slowed down - maybe. Dead? I highly doubt it.

fhunter wrote: Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:09 pm Different countries probably.

http://fhunter.mine.nu/screen90.jpg - here is the proof .

PS. And no, the eunuch archive is not dead. Slowed down - maybe. Dead? I highly doubt it.

Well, in Canada it comes up as first item in search for the words eunuch archive. However, a search of just the word eunuch it doesn't even show up on the first 10 pages. I think that is different than it was before. I understand that news stories and articles from big news outlets and popular sites would probably get ranked higher than the archive, but it does seem like it is lower than I would expect.

And with a search of the word castration, a site like burdizzocastration.com comes up on second page, but I can't find EA coming up in first several pages which doesn't seem right. But a search for the words castration dominatrix we come up in second hit on first page.

What I suspect happened is that Google did deprecate us from the results for common words, but still allowed returns for fairly targeted search. In other words, you can find us if you know to look for us, or if you know some specific content, but in a general search you might have trouble. I believe that is in line with what I've heard Google do in other cases -- like the monkey picture of Michele Obama. You can still find it, but it is not thrown up as a top response.

So why would they do this? EA's content seems unexceptionable, even if unconventional.

bobover3 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2010 3:44 am So why would they do this? EA's content seems unexceptionable, even if unconventional.

Because there were complaints, and I have to admit that from an outsider's view the Story section alone would raise some questions. Plus, they probably assume that there is not enough of us willing to go public with our association with the Archive to pose any real opposition.

In other words, a small publicly vocal group is going to win against a larger anonymous group.

There are far worse things easy to find. Search engines aren't suppose to censor or be censored. Look at Google's recent spat with the government of China. Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder, and the Chinese government won't allow any criticism of itself to be seen. Wonder if you can get EA in China.

Who complained, and what was their complaint?

bobover3 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:58 am There are far worse things easy to find. Search engines aren't suppose to censor or be censored. Look at Google's recent spat with the government of China. Ugliness is in the eye of the beholder, and the Chinese government won't allow any criticism of itself to be seen. Wonder if you can get EA in China.

Who complained, and what was their complaint?

Yes, you can get EA in China - we have quite a few members from there.

Some German Council on kids complained and got EA banned in Germany. When they issued the judgment and demanded that Goggle and Bung ban us, rather than just doing it in Germany, they did it across the board. Very short version.

Specifically, it was t

JesusA wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:13 am he Rhein-Neckar-Kreis Youth Welfare Office in Heidelberg, Germany which filed a complaint with Google that the EA was corrupting youth and demanded that it be blocked from access in Germany. Google responded by blocking us

both in Germany and the U.S.

JesusA wrote: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:13 am and they have not deigned to respond to any of our letters to them.

I had thought that we had banned entirely from Google, but I'm pleased to know that we are available in China and Russia. I need to check elsewhere to see if we're still listed.

I have checked the Japanese version of Google, where we don't come up in the first five pages under either the English or the Japanese term, though the Korean soap opera "The King and I" about the most famous eunuch in Korean history is near the top of page one in the ENGLISH version (though in Korean language text) and is nowhere to be found under the Japanese term "kangan" even though the two languages use the same Chinese characters for "eunuch."

Before the German complaint, the Eunuch Archive was the second listed item if you just searched the single word "eunuch" in the U.S. version of Google. The Wikipedia article held first place.

Y'think we are being abandoned for

http://www.hungdevils.com

A most similar site, if any site can be similar to EA

Free, discussion boards and pictures too.

I don't know anyone there so I am staying loyal,

besides I have sent too much money not to do so.

Moi

That site isn't about castration.

Sorry to hear about that German "Youth Council." Wonder what the kids they raise are like. Don't think I'd want to meet any in a dark alley.

Still, I did a Google search on "eunuch" today, and EA came up at the top of the fifth page. If you search on "eunuch archive," EA comes up first.

Fascinated to learn there are Chinese members.

bobover3 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:13 pm That site isn't about castration.

OMG this site is about castration...why didn't anyone tell me? I thought this was the Jerry Springer Hotline.

Just FYI: while wikipedia doesn't ban links to Eunuch Archive, the editorial staff has for many years regarded such links as inappropriate or worse and they are reviewed whenever they are posted. This is the result of a complaint by a reviewer or an editor. We are always running an uphill course to stay in a place where we can be noticed. --FLO--

Interesting how much the thread has gone all over the place.

But the most interesting is that the poster amm_uk has not made a post after the start of the thread. Seems they can only complain about people not posting. With this type of non-contribution could be one reason of reduced posts of late.

Please if you start a thread, at least post your feelings and thoughts on the thread. Just an open statement with no follow through is just rude. 45 people have read the post that also contribution to it. Think people are just waiting for a post to reply to.

To all that contributed to the thread Thank-You. You are what makes this a great place to converse.

I think the problem with acceptance is that from a objective point of view I can understand how our site is suspect. Basically we are a group containing:

1) Alternative sexualities (transexual and eunuch)

2) Self-harming individuals (like myself)

3) S&M kinkers

All of the above are considered suspect by a fairly large portion of our society.

The forums themselves probably are fairly innocuous to any open-minded reviewer, but the story board really is suspect.

I personally like some of the stories, but have to admit that they are pretty extreme. Some contain underage fantasies. Most contain non-consensual body mutilation. Some contain gay themes (which of course some conservatives are against in principle).

In other words, with society still having trouble with consensual gay marriage, if they look at a site that contains stories about underage gay forced castration, I do understand the objection.

Even I am not sure that our castration desires are healthy. I do think it is healthy to have a place to talk frankly about such desires, and the EA has become a very safe place in that regard (people care about each other and advise against harming oneself).

bobover3 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:18 pm Fascinated to learn there are Chinese members.

Oh, didn't you know?

The Chinese have had (dis) members for a longer time then EA existed.

Moi

I just flew in from Milwaukee and boy are my arms every tired

Or maybe the real problem is that castration was only a passing fad?

Some of the more interesting people have left this forum, like Yoli for instance