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Is that not the first sign of old age when you start to emm what was i saying lol

saywhat (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2010 2:51 pm One question that I have about orgasms since I am still relatively new at this. For those of you who supplement your sex hormone with E, are you able to have multiple orgasms? Even with low T I can only still go once. Just wondering if the E rewires the brain for multiple orgasms.

I can enjoy multiple orgasms if I like; though I could do that before orchification. It's definitely more common for me now. Dunno.

My significant other, wears tight underwear and has erections every single night. Lucky him.. I never have erections.. I am old and worn out.

Question for those that are castrated and still getting erections and orgasms, are you taking any hormone replacement or testosterone?

My understanding is as others have mentioned, it is possible to get erections and stilll orgasm after castration, but it is a hit or miss. Also the ability may deminish after a long period. Some do and some are unable. Is this correct from those experienced with it?

C van D (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2010 5:42 pm I may have contributed to this uncertainty with the "Simon" stories. Neither Simon nor any of his friends is capable of penetrative sex. The description of the American boy Jason in "Simon and the Professsional" says, of his private area, that it is "a smooth little knob, like a sea anemone, drawn in right up to the glans".

Jason was emasculated with Neutersol which (a) destroys a boy's testicles (b) destroys his erectile nerves (c) induces 'penile shrinkage'.

OK so far - but as my friend and superior officer Paolo has stressed many times, although there is a drug called Neutersol, it is not licenced to be used - nor ever has been - on humans, and my graphic descriptions of its results are all in the interests of telling a good story.

Ironically, neutersol isn't nearly that intense - we should assume the fictional version is more powerful because it's been refined for a while. In the real world, neutersol is popular because it's cheap and easy for mass-sterilization projects in poor communities, or trap-neuter-release programs. Its training requirements mean it's seen as something of a premium product in America, since it's a very exclusive club of trained vets so far, and the company won't sell you the drug until you're trained, and will stop providing to you if you allow an untrained practitioner (such as a nurse) if you allow them to administer the drug. It's avoiding a reputation for botched injections, but at no small cost.

Normally, neutersol works a lot like the homebrew CaCl-in-ethanol ("Calchlorin") favored on the chemical castration forum, resulting in a relatively rapid onset of sterilization...LINK TO A BANNED SITE WAS POSTED!but calchlorin, ironically, has a stronger effect. Neutersol - now sold as Zeuterin and Esterilsol in spanish-speaking markets - causes reliable sterilization...LINK TO A BANNED SITE WAS POSTED!I'll just quote the paper: (http://library.constantcontact.com/down ... rilsol.pdf)

In the clinical trial results presented to the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA), this formulation was found to cause permanent sterility in 99.6% of treated dogs. Pre-pubescent males never become fertile. Post-pubescent males become infertile in less than 30 days after treatment.

In the concentration used, zinc gluconate acts as a spermicide and destroys spermatozoa in all stages of development and maturation. It results in permanent and irreversible fibrosis in the seminiferous tubules, rete testis and epididymis. This produces a reduction in the size and texture of the testicles and permanent sterilization. Testosterone production is reduced by [only] 41-52%, and the endocrine feedback system remains intact. Zinc gluconate is absorbed and metabolized by the body within 72 hours after the injection.

Esterilsol does not reduce testosterone to the same concentration as surgical castration does, and its effects on hormone-dependent diseases and behaviors have not been established. A lesser impact on testosterone production is considered a drawback by some pet owners who seek reproductive behavioral changes commonly associated with surgical castration. However, other pet owners prefer a limited impact on testosterone, citing health and behavior risks associated with surgical castration. It is important to note that testosterone levels range widely among dogs.

As to the bolded section in the quote (my emphasis) - someone here mixed up a batch and tried it, after years of untreated, severe testicle pain. I haven't the sense to bookmark it, but it bought him a good week (his theory - it stunned the nerves), and then a surgical orchiectomy when he landed in the ER; the DIY attempt drove home the degree of suffering and desperation, and he was given surgery, and as far as I know, he lived happily ever after. That said, I don't know of anybody trying the real McCoy commercial preparation.

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erikboy (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:00 am I wounder if those eunuchs who are able to orgasm now, were able to have orgasms before puberty too. Or if there was no orgasms before puberty then there was no orgasms after castration? Any experience?

What an excellent question to have raised ericboy.

I have been lurking this site, BME, Manmods and others for many years, explored erotic body modification, masochism and many forms of sexual expression all of which proves to me, over and over again that sex really is primarily, though not exclusively, in the head.

Of course testosterone is a factor, especially where semen production is concerned, and muscle mass, body hair, male pattern baldness, voice etc. But you have just reminded me of what it was like as a boy of 6 to 12 years old.

During this 6 year period before puberty I fantasized about sex and masturbated to orgasm almost daily. After the first few years I often prolonged the experience for as much as 30 to 90 minutes and occasionally had multiple orgasms which seemed to pulsate through every nerve in my body, not just the genitals.

I distinctly remember the very first time a little semen came out when I was 12. From then on orgasm seemed to happen faster and was clearly focused much more on the act of ejaculation itself. My cock and balls got bigger, my body got hairy and gained muscle bulk and I think post orgasmic let down (prolactin?) was greatly increased too. But my erotic pleasure in general and orgasmic ecstasy itself did not improve one bit. If anything they decreased, all closely related to testosterone levels.

So there you have it ericboy. If/when I manage to have myself castrated I, for one, am hoping to have a kind of Peter Pan experience. I've had a very active erotic imagination since long before puberty and nothing would please me more than returning to those prolonged, diffuse, blindingly pleasurable erotic experiences of my youth. I don't mind if my penis shrinks or doesn't get quite as hard. I had a vasectomy many years ago so I'm shooting blanks as it is. Totally dry orgasms sound kinda fun actually.

This is my first posting on the eunuch archive and I realize most members here have very different feelings about castration. I hope to be able to return to this one day soon with an update (after castration) so that all of the above can be compared to actual experience. How exciting..... looking forward to it, but how to get there? Hmmmmm.

My eperience has been similar to yours and that is the source of question.

I started to masturbate at age 6 or 7. I can't remember exactly what was first, manual stimulation of penis or erotic thoughts. But as a prepubertal boy I masturbated 1-5 times a month. The closer to puberty the more sophisticated my erotic fantasies became and the more I masturbated. So, before puberty I certainly was sexual being already. I mean just sexual. Not bisexual, heterosexual or homosexual.

I remember that exact time when my puberty started very well. I was 13 and half and hadn't masturbated for a month perhaps. Due to privacy reasons. I was living at my friends house for several weeks. And I started to notice that I got my penis hard every morning I woke up. Harder and harder with every morning, which was unusual. And one morning there was nobody around, so i just wanted to touch my penis little bit. Then i just started to jack off, giving in to my urges. Orgasm came unusually rapidly. Its strenght was unexpected and exhausting, overwhelmingly intense, nothing that I had experienced before. As I regained my privacy soon after, I started to masturbate every day. And that was the difference.

I know people who have told me that they never masturbated before puberty and did not have any sexual fantasies either. That bring me to a tought that people base sexuality could be at very different levels. As many castrated men loose all the sexuality, and some do not.

I don't know about erections and orgasms after castration since I'm not castrated, but I recall having sexual (not heterosexual, homosexual, or bi-sexual) feelings in the genital area around 11 years of age. Puberty started when I was about 13 1/2 y/o, but my voice didn't change until I was almost 17 y/o. I had a case of measles around 12 and remember my Mother taking me to the doctor and that was the first time a doctor touched my genitals. I didn't feel aroused--just wondered what was going on. Yes, I was a naïve boy! My testicles grew during puberty, but my penis stayed fairly small and I found fondling my dick at night to be pleasureable, but I didn't have any precum or orgasm until I was 18 1/2 y/o. I couldn't masturbate easily in the Navy (no privacy), but started masturbating at least once or twice a week after discharge from the military (and had an orgasm each time--which was nice). Military service delayed my entrance into college and I recall buying "romance novels" and masturbating, pretending to have sex with a woman. During college, I was asked by some female students to be their male "escort" to various functions. It was nice to have some feminine companionship, but still wasn't looking for the "Right One." When I was 24, my hormones must have jumped and I wanted to experience intercourse with a woman, but was scared, single, and still a virgin. I began looking for a mate and found a girl at church and we began dating and "making out" at the drive-in! We married after I turned 26 y/o and then went to Grad School. Since both of us were inexperienced sexually, the "Honeymoon" was nice, but not fantastic. As we got to know each other better as man and wife, the sex became extremely wonderful and we were engaging in it 3-4 times per week, but my wife was on the "pill", so I didn't have to worry about pregnancies at that point. She got off the "pill" when we decided to start a family when I was about 29 y/o. Between 1974 and 1980, we had four children, but the jobs just didn't pay much for one working parent back then. It still doesn't! My wife went through menopause early (1987) and then developed a meningioma and started acting crazy saying we needed to get rid of our children, so I could concentrate on buying HER things. We divorced on 10/22/94 and I had custody of the 3 children who were still in their early to mid-teens. After the kids got married and left me with an "empty nest" I masturbated at least twice a week and then became ill from something that happened while I was in the Navy, which was a "National Security Issue" and they wouldn't tell me what happened. About 2000, the V.A. determined that I had Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and my interest in sex diminished since I was taking blood pressure pills and anti-depression pills. I noticed, with alarm, that my penis was shrinking (it's 1 1/2" soft and less than 4 inches erect). My testicles are at least marble size and I became interested in guys around 2006 (62 y/o). I had 4-5 men who showed me what a "blow job" was (never had any before) and enjoyed it and could maintain an erection for over an hour during "edging" sessions! I guess due to all the medications I was taking, my interest in sex declined almost 95% and my LAST orgasm was in Oct., 2009! In 2012, I had to be circumcised and masturbation was not as much fun as before (with a foreskin). Now, I will be 71 in late October and my sex drive has increased, but still can't orgasm during masturbation. Celibacy was difficult in the military, but during some periods in my 60's, I didn't mind not having a sex drive for periods (months) of time. This turned out to be much longer than I anticipated!!! I think I got off topic, but have had a fantasy about being castrated since I was about 13 y/o, which grew stronger in my late 40's and 50's when I discovered Eunuch.org . Sometimes my fantasies turn to cannibalism--where I am the meat for a meal! I've written two stories about cannibalism which is on another website devoted to cannibalism. I also wrote Part I and II of "Daddy's Little Boy" for Eunuch.org and it should be in the fictional stories. Thanks for letting me vent on this thread!

I was able to have both after getting castrated, though I can't get erections anymore. Of course that tends to be the case when you cut your dick off.

--LT

erikboy (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2010 5:00 am It is hard to answer if you will have ability to orgasm after castration. Some people have and some do not. It seem to be very personal.

I wounder if those eunuchs who are able to orgasm now, were able to have orgasms before puberty too. Or if there was no orgasms before puberty then there was no orgasms after castration? Any experience?

I could get orgasms a long time before I reached puberty through masturbation. They were not so intense, but thats's more a thing of the brain. Enjoying orgasms must be learnt. About post-castration I can tell nothing, because up to now I am wearing balls.

Yes. You very well can!

Losethem (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2015 9:31 am I was able to have both after getting castrated, though I can't get erections anymore. Of course that tends to be the case when you cut your dick off.

--LT

LT....dude! Full nullo less than 4 months ago, that's fucking amazing! How are you feeling now? Have you blogged about it or written in any detail anywhere? In particular I'm curious if you intend to stop all sexual function or if you are like some other nullos (sidewinder etc) who continue to have sex (as bottoms of course) and also orgasm? Or is the eunuch calm more where you're at? Wow, I just noticed....joined the eunuch archive in 2001. Respect.

I will be brief as this is turning into a hijacked thread. I'll be more like Sidewiner, remaining sexually active, though I've yet to have penetrative sex since the surgery. I do have someone that wants to. While my string of sex partners has diminished, I'm still getting enough physical intimacy from others to feel pretty darn good about myself. I can achieve orgasm and ejaculate. In fact the 'ole sex life is just fine for now, and I attended a BDSM party this weekend where I played the role of a top. Figure that one out...

However, my experience with can you get erections and orgasms after getting castrated is a resounding yes.

--LT

Ha Ha.. Erections.. No way.. That thing is as dead as a door nail. Orgasm, if you can not get an erection, you are not getting an orgasm either. Remember, Losethem and lot of the others here, take testrosome injections regularly.. I am a true Eunuch, I take nothing.

OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:34 am Ha Ha.. Erections.. No way.. That thing is as dead as a door nail. Orgasm, if you can not get an erection, you are not getting an orgasm either. Remember, Losethem and lot of the others here, take testrosome injections regularly.. I am a true Eunuch, I take nothing.

This true eunuch does get erections and have orgasms. Castrated 12/06/97 and have never taken any form of HRT. Interesting how the results are so different for each of us.

tugon (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:55 am This true eunuch does get erections and have orgasms. Castrated 12/06/97 and have never taken any form of HRT. Interesting how the results are so different for each of us.

I would guess that the disparity rests with the amount of testosterone produced by the adrenal glands. Some probably produce more than others, enabling some eunuchs who do not take TRT to still have erections and orgasms.

As for your comment about true eunuch, if your balls are gone, you are one, the fact that some of us take TRT is neither here nor there and does nothing to take away from our ball less status. I suggest that is might be wise to back off on comments like your oneballboi as this could stir up a storm of controversy.

OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:34 am . Orgasm, if you can not get an erection, you are not getting an orgasm either. Remember, Losethem and lot of the others here, take testrosome injections regularly.. I am a true Eunuch, I take nothing.

False, Erections are not essential for getting orgasm, at least not for me, I have had orgasms with no erections at all.

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micdavi24 (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:10 pm if your balls are gone, you are one, the fact that some of us take TRT is neither here nor there and does nothing to take away from our ball less status...

I use TRT and, although I can and do get daily erections, orgasm and enjoy sex immensely, I would add that even with TRT, the desire for sex is less than when I was was intact and I have more control over my sexual urges now.

I was surgically castrated 2.5 years ago (April 2013) and inject 0.8 ml/200mg testosterone each week since (and for about a year prior).

My penis takes longer to get erections now and I don't get hard enough for penetrative sex unless I take meds (I inject tri-mix for this). Usually I just get semi-hard, then little stiffer right before I ejaculate, then my boner immediately disappears.

I do have orgasms and can still cum but the volume of ejaculate is reduced and is not as thick as before with the sperm in it. Not sure whether some of these conditions are due to age or entirely related to getting castrated. I'm 53 now.

OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:34 am Ha Ha.. Erections.. No way.. That thing is as dead as a door nail. Orgasm, if you can not get an erection, you are not getting an orgasm either. Remember, Losethem and lot of the others here, take testrosome injections regularly.. I am a true Eunuch, I take nothing.

So what does that make me an untrue eunuch because I take testosterone, last time I had a feel down there, this morning as it happens my balls were still gone,and my sac was still empty. When I stop taking it which I have done on occasion,I don't feel any more of a eunuch, certainly not a "true eunuch" than when I do take it, in my book a eunuch is eunuch just as an empty sac is an empty sac. You are just a eunuch who has decided not to take testosterone and I am one who does.

My point is, if you want to become a Eunuch then why take HRT to replace what you wanted to be without. And most of the administrators here are taking HRT. If you are a Eunuch, why take HRT..

OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:04 pm My point is, if you want to become a Eunuch then why take HRT to replace what you wanted to be without. And most of the administrators here are taking HRT. If you are a Eunuch, why take HRT..

Very simply because all of us want to lose our balls for different reasons, not all of us to go totally TRT free. I wanted to get rid of mine due to ongoing pain as a result of a post vasectomy infection. I wanted them gone, but still wanted to be able to function as a man. I am sure there are many other motivations for the surgery and for taking TRT. You should not take such a narrow view to this as you do and accept that many of us want to lose our balls for many differing reasons.

You reason is not the only valid viewpoint and you should be more accepting of the motivations of others and be more open to asking questions rather than expressing condemnation towards those of us who do into fit with your narrow field of view on the subject.

OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:04 pm My point is, if you want to become a Eunuch then why take HRT to replace what you wanted to be without. And most of the administrators here are taking HRT. If you are a Eunuch, why take HRT..

I can only speak for myself, which was to have a better grasp over my libido, without experiencing the negative health effects from having too little testosterone. TRT doesn't have the same affect as does natural testosterone. I rarely think about sex at all now, except when i am with a woman, and I still enjoy the intimacy of having sex with her. So now I am able to have a pronounced control of my sexuality, while also having a healthy lifestyle and still enjoy sex. That's why I use TRT as a Eunuch.

OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:04 pm My point is, if you want to become a Eunuch then why take HRT to replace what you wanted to be without. And most of the administrators here are taking HRT. If you are a Eunuch, why take HRT..

Like micdavi24 said we are all eunuchs for different reasons, because we do things differently doesn't make us any less or more of a "true eunuch" than anyone else, once they are gone they are gone. I love being sexual and a man who still enjoys having a hard penis and the ability to enjoy that penis and to be able to reach orgasm when I choose to do it, every day as it happens, I just didn't want testicles below it.

I also don't want to spend my days feeling depressed, anxious, lacking in energy and nonsexual also fat, all the things that happen when I don't take it. I don't judge others for their eunuch journey and choices and neither should you.

ballsrgone (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:00 pm I also don't want to spend my days feeling depressed, anxious, lacking in energy and nonsexual also fat, all the things that happen when I don't take it. I don't judge others for their eunuch journey and choices and neither should you.

Not all non T eunuchs are depressed and anxious. I am not lacking in energy working my two jobs over three shifts and walking a beagle for several hours a day. Oh and "also fat" sounds a little judgey. OBB I am sure, having met him, meant no offense. Maybe if he called himself an original eunuch such as the ones who were castrated long before HRT was available. I was castrated to rid myself of T while having no dislike of my testicles. Their presence never bothered me and I enjoyed a little squeeze and pain. Now I am free of T and the driving force to fulfill fantasies is a relief. After all these years I live between male and female and can understand both but feel like neither. I am a third gender in the binary scheme of things.

While we are all on a path together our motivations are different. We identify differently on our paths. Some of us wanted to rid our lives of T and others wanted to rid themselves of the physical items hanging between our legs. I guess if we speak clumsily we will remember that we are on the same path albeit for different reasons but we support each other.