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Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 5:57 pm
by wannabe (imported)
just figured how to get in using the IP :-D hello everyone! id be lying if i said i hadn't been concerned!

so has a virus hit EA, or a cock up? or is EA the next target for internet censorship as loooooads of eunuch type groups have been dissapearing 1 by 1 lately.... hope this isn't the case :(

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:56 pm
by Caith721 (imported)
OMG, they're talking about stuff I don't like.

That can't be out on the web!!!

Take that site down, immediately!!! 🍑👋

</ignorant_hausfrau>

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:38 am
by Wolf-Pup (imported)
Since it seems there is a lull, just thought I'd make my first post under my new user name. I who was once Bat Boy....grew up to be Batman....am now and forevermore Wolf-Pup. For those who care. I figure its the regular bunch on here so a good place to post it while the technical issues are sorted out.

I realized that I might be a Vampire as they can turn into bats and wolves...however it could just be a happy coincidence :D

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:56 am
by fhunter
Caith721 (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2011 8:56 pm OMG, they're talking about stuff I don't like.

That can't be out on the web!!!

Take that site down, immediately!!! 🍑👋

</ignorant_hausfrau>

Looks like it...

Name Server:NS1.FRAUDSHUTDOWN.COM

Name Server:NS2.FRAUDSHUTDOWN.COM - this is from the whois information on eunuch.org domain. It does not look like a valid dns server...

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:50 am
by transward (imported)
erikboy (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 06, 2011 7:46 am I was afraid that EA was gone forever! But it wasn't. After googleing around I found Losethem posting in tribes.network.com with correct IP address.

On first page of EA we should give instructions how to make EA work. entering correct IP isn't enough.

For windows XP one must edit hosts file, making following entry:

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184.80.18.34 www.eunuch.org

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Hosts file can be found here:

c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts

this entry forces all connections directed on www.eunuch.org to physical IP 184.80.18.34 and everything just starts to work. Includng Personals, chat and story archive.

this entry must be kept there until this strange DNS problem is solved.

I did this on my XP machine and it works well, though quite a bit slower than before. On my Windows 7 machine I am having trouble convincing the computer that I am the administrator and have permission to muck about in the hosts file. And surprisingly the fiction archive works fine this way (it wouldn't work just entering 184.80.18.34 ) Since I haven't chatted, I don't know if that works.

Transward

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:02 am
by Skudster (imported)
Its starting to look like EA should change its site access to members only, change the front page to a registration page with no access to anything unless you are loged in. I know it is drastic, because a lot of people get access without loging in to see whats here, but it might stop problems like whats happening now.

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:46 am
by Caith721 (imported)
transward (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2011 5:50 am On my Windows 7 machine I am having trouble convincing the computer that I am the administrator and have permission to muck about in the hosts file.

Enter 'cmd' in the start box. When the Command Prompt icon appears, right click it and 'Run as Administrator'. Assure Windoze you want to allow the action, then:

cd \Windows\System32\drivers\etc\

notepad hosts

and happily edit and save the file. :)

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:13 am
by Cainanite (imported)
Skudster (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:02 am Its starting to look like EA should change its site access to members only, change the front page to a registration page with no access to anything unless you are loged in. I know it is drastic, because a lot of people get access without loging in to see whats here, but it might stop problems like whats happening now.

Y'know... I'm gonna have to agree with this idea... with reservations.

You need a membership to post in the forums, which are moderated and extremely tame by comparison to other sites I have seen, but you don't need a membership to read the archive. Just a couple of clicks and you're there.

By far the most controversial and possibly offensive stuff is in the archive. Maybe it should be put behind some protection.

I agree with you Skudster, but with a caveat. I wouldn't have found the EA if I had to sign into an unknown website first. To be fair, I think most EA members are a fairly skittish bunch. I know I was, and still am. Once I get into a safe place like the EA I feel I can open up, but on other sites, not so much.

Having the Archive behind a password or membership-only seems like the right thing to do. I'm leaning toward that as a good idea.

I'm just not sure if I would have found my way here if it had been for members only. Would doing something like that have even protected us from all these "technical issues"?

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:37 am
by Skudster (imported)
I dont think I would have found my way here if the site was members only either. I dont know if there is a way to protect us, I am not that literate in site creation or web access. I like the idea of saving the Archeive to members, that would give people access, but if they wanted the Archieve they could become a member.

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:36 am
by moi621 (imported)
Please, Please, Please

E-mail members you are use to seeing here and are absent.

Go to their profile,

Contact,

See if e-mail choice available and send them a link.

Moi

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:42 am
by MacTheWolf (imported)
Explanation #2 to why the EA is down:

Kristoff, the Red Nun, was installing his new naqueda (sp) powered chipper shredder when it blew out the circuits.

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:44 am
by Caith721 (imported)
That's because he was using naquedria instead of naqueda, and didn't account for the infinitely smaller amounts of fuel necessary. It's a common mistake, unfortunately.

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:49 am
by Riverwind (imported)
The technical issues are just that, technical but we are working on them, until its all sorted out please keep using this link to get into VBulletin.

Thanks for your support,

River

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 10:44 am
by sduyck_2000 (imported)
thought you guys were gone for good till someone posted ip address to my group..just click it and i was in

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:22 am
by moi621 (imported)
I just e-mailed the

http://184.80.18.34 address to another member not on since July 1.

Please, e-mail lost souls as you recognize their absence. We all hang in different circles.

Maybe someone should e-mail Punkypink as I always stick my foot in my mouth when I try communicate with her. No ragging on Punky please.

Please, e-mail someone(s) ;) you recognize are absent.

profile, contact, try for e-mail link.

NOW! 🙏 Let's build our participating community back up beyond five or seven.

:D

I pledge to reputation tag anyone who contacts three persons and declares it so. :)

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:31 am
by Cainanite (imported)
Well I already sent emails to janekane, Il Musico and StefanIsMe. The only one I heard back from was Stefan. Apparently the numerical HTML link does not work for him, and he will wait until the site is up regularly. I also sent a note to Slammr, but I'm guessing that was unnecessary. (Mod?)

I'm still pretty new around here, and I don't feel comfortable contacting too many people out of the blue.

If I think of any more to contact, I'll do it, but most of the people I converse with are already back on the forums.

edit:

I forgot to mention Caultron. I sent him an e-mail when I finished reading and reviewing his story, Separation Anxiety. I included the numerical link for him in that message. I haven't heard back from him.

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:10 pm
by janekane (imported)
I was out of my state of residence, having my after-one-month surgery follow-up at the university hospital where I had the June "bilateral prosthectomy" surgery, prevously mentioned, and got back home late yesterday. On pretending to be computer literate, I found the IP address and, here I am...

Because my orchiectomy was done with the purpose of cancer risk minimization, given my family terminal when first detected cancer history, the urology resident did remark that, were I dead because of cancer, dying as my brother did, my testicles would be dead anyway.

Today, I read the Times (of London) piece by Richard Wassersug, "In becoming a eunuch, I became a better man." Which leads me towhat may be another technical issue.

I did not encounter a diminished capacity for multitasking or diminished memory function. The technical issue which comes to my mind is about whether there are side effects from anti-androgen medication (chemical castration for cancer or cancer risk treatment/prevention/minimization) which I did not encounter because I merely got rid of the main testosterone source without using medications having possible side effects?

Whether chemical castration for prostate cancer treatment sometimes, for some people, has side effects which orchiectomy does not have may yet be a technical issue worthy of further research. Anecdotal single person stories are not necessarily rigorous science.

As for the underlying technical issue, as I guess I may understand it, some of the fiction stories may be seriously misunderstood, particularly when aspects of a story remind people of intense issues involving real child abuse. In the absence of a practical and lawful way for the managers of the site to verify individual identity accurately, I have yet to dream up a solution other than carefully screening the stories which can be found here.

Yes, I am aware of people being banned for posting things which endanger the availability of the useful information here for people, of which I am one, who have valid reasons for considering castration as a way to avoid a seriously unsatisfactory life. For me, being dead as my brother is, for want of effective cancer prevention because of not having had life-sparing surgery/surgeries, would have been my deciding to commit suicide by neglect, and I found that to be unconscionable.

Living with mind-body disparity of unmanageable intensity would be, for me, much like being dead while alive.

Kindness, decency, compassion, and caring are what guide my life.

That said, if it is impractical and harmful to screen people, what else is left other than to screen the stories?

Moral, ethical, social, medical, personal dilemmas happen.

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:14 pm
by Cainanite (imported)
janekane (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:10 pm I was out of my state of residence, having my after-one-month surgery follow-up at the university hospital where I had the June "bilateral prosthectomy" surgery, prevously mentioned, and got back home late yesterday. On pretending to be computer literate, I found the IP address and, here I am...

Glad to see you back janekane!

I always find your posts intelligent and educational. Your insights are very much appreciated.

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:18 pm
by moi621 (imported)
Cainanite (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2011 11:31 am Well I already sent emails to janekane, Il Musico and StefanIsMe. The only one I heard back from was Stefan. Apparently the numerical HTML link does not work for him, and he will wait until the site is up regularly. I also sent a note to Slammr, but I'm guessing that was unnecessary. (Mod?)

I'm still pretty new around here, and I don't feel comfortable contacting too many people out of the blue.

If I think of any more to contact, I'll do it, but most of the people I converse with are already back on the forums.

edit:

I forgot to mention Caultron. I sent him an e-mail when I finished reading and reviewing his story, Separation Anxiety. I included the numerical link for him in that message. I haven't heard back from him.

Oh my!

Look at all your new sun bursts and pips.

🙏

I tried Stefan too. The others are totally to your credit. <ka-ching ka-ching>, for what it is worth. :)

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:22 pm
by kristoff
Be advised that what is left of EA is going to be going off line before long. BME has decided to stop hosting us. That will happen soon. we are trying to get things worked out. if not we will be transferring everything to eunuchworld.com

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:27 pm
by Cainanite (imported)
kristoff wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:22 pm Be advised that what is left of EA is going to be going off line before long. BME has decided to stop hosting us. That will happen soon. we are trying to get things worked out. if not we will be transferring everything to eunuchworld.com

When will it go down? Or, do you not have that info yet?

also,

Will the fiction archive go with it, or just the forum?

(Clearly I don't know how these things work.)

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:38 pm
by moi621 (imported)
kristoff wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:22 pm Be advised that what is left of EA is going to be going off line before long. BME has decided to stop hosting us. That will happen soon. we are trying to get things worked out. if not we will be transferring everything to eunuchworld.com

Thanks, I book marked the page already and noticed the index on the left.

All looked recognizable except

the absence of Opinions, Advice & Laughs Forums; Deep Dark Cellar, Jokes & Media,Tech & Computers and Political Discussions.

Will they be back or gone?

Also, are you able to "auto e-mail", sort of, all members who have filed an e-mail contact address in their profiles of the changes? ?

If you can and do i will give you a reputation tag.

😄

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:39 pm
by janekane (imported)
Cainanite (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:14 pm Glad to see you back janekane!

I always find your posts intelligent and educational. Your insights are very much appreciated.

Cainanite,

Thanks for sending the IP address. I was away from home, out of state and out of useful Internet access, and, on returning home last night and getting up this morning and finding "fraudshutdown," checked with River, who offered to email the IP to me, only he was busy, so I did my own IP research, and got here before your post, only I was repeatedly interrupted by phone calls, and you sent your email to me after I had started writing my post.

Abuse happens. I was sexually molested in high school by another student in the shower after a gym class. It happened only once, because I found a way to make it stop without reporting the student, while making clear that, if I heard of another such incident with anyone else, I would take necessary action. Therefore, I do not overlook abuse others have experienced, nor do I overlook how people may be constrained by life experiences into dealing with abuse indirectly, through stories which some people may find troubling because such stories reflect real, tragic abuse which is socially taboo to such extent as allowing that it happens is even more taboo than the abuse itself.

Deception is a curious phenomenon. It seems to me that, if a person is deceived and is aware of being deceived and understands the deception, then the person is not deceived.

The most severe abuse I ever encountered happened when I explained my concerns regarding cancer risk and optimal cancer risk minimization strategies, only to find my concerns rejected by "society" until after my brother had developed the form of terminal cancer I have, thus far, successfully avoided.

When a person observes that some aspect of life is destroying life and there is something that can be done to plausibly overcome the destruction, is it not destructive to not do it? That is what I understood and understand.

I made a choice, an informed choice, and, in retrospect, a very wise, life-giving choice. When I made that choice, it was a guess, though a well-considered guess. Before something happens, whether or not it will happen is, at best a guess, and I doubt that life that has yet to occur ever gets better than that.

Second-guessing any newborn child makes the gift of life defiled.

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 12:55 pm
by janekane (imported)
When not all can be saved, it is wise to save what is considerately deemed the most important first?

I have given up parts of my body to save the rest of it.

Is that a useful framing paradigm for how to continue the useful work of this community?

Incidentally, some casual checking leads me to the hunch that Google has cached pretty much everything ever posted here.

Re: Serious Technical Issues

Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 1:52 pm
by Mac (imported)
Riverwind (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 07, 2011 9:49 am The technical issues are just that, technical but we are working on them, until its all sorted out please keep using this link to get into VBulletin.

Thanks for your support,

RiverI hope that you are able to work everything out. I don't want this board to go away.

How will we be notified of any changes in the site location?