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Number 2 for me plus the uncertainty of traveling to Thailand by myself and having it done there.

I think that it would be great if a group of guys went together at the same time. Maybe there would be a "group discount"

erikboy (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:01 am Good words Elizabeth!

These things you just described have prevented me getting castrated so far. That is the reason why older men get castrated, as they do not have much too loose first place. They might be alone already. And they've had much time to experienc various situations in their life to be sure there is not much bad that could happen to them. Most are independent in most ways including financially.

Gotta give erikboy the benefit of the doubt here. To those of us with communication sensitivities, best described as being proper, saying things as indirectly as possible or what I grew up hearing as "people who wouldn't say shit even if they had a mouthful of it", his words seem harsh. Number one erikboy's first language isn't English, number two, the eastern European people I've known, have always been very direct. I really hope I'm right, and there was no intent to say. Hell, once you're 40 you're nearly dead anyways, probably single, and have no use for balls...though that may be somewhat true too...for some.

nonuts (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 30, 2012 2:36 pm Gotta give erikboy the benefit of the doubt here. To those of us with communication sensitivities, best described as being proper, saying things as indirectly as possible or what I grew up hearing as "people who wouldn't say shit even if they had a mouthful of it", his words seem harsh. Number one erikboy's first language isn't English, number two, the eastern European people I've known, have always been very direct. I really hope I'm right, and there was no intent to say. Hell, once you're 40 you're nearly dead anyways, probably single, and have no use for balls...though that may be somewhat true too...for some.

Good points nonuts but I was feeling dismissed by the comments. I guess it caught me a little by surprise since I enjoy erikboy's posts so much. When you respect someone their comments carry a greater weight.

1, 2, 5 and 7 would stop me. I like to be a male, but in my opinion I would look much better without balls. An other reason is, I like to have sex - but I want it without balls - and I know that's not possible in that way like now.

tugon (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:49 am Wow, we are all washed up so just take off our balls. I was in my 20's when I began thinking about castration. It took me until I was 41 to find someone to castrate me or it would have happened earlier. Plix and Thefraj are two who were castrated at an early age. At 56 I still have to work daily. I had just as much fear and anxiety as anyone who is making a major life change.

I was in my mid 30's, when I desperately wanted to get castrated. I only didn't know how to have this done. Now I'm much older and don't feel the same necessity as before. I believe that when I really got castrated in my mid 30's, I would have been and still would be happy to be a eunuch, but that's speculation.

The only thing stopping me is family concerns, or should I say wife concerns. We are working on that and I hope she will come around to my way of thinking.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am THE QUESTION (for the uncut):

So here's a serious question for everyone who truly believes that they want to either be castrated, penectomized, or have the opposite gender's genitals like me. I'm just asking out of curiosity: What is the number one concern that is holding you back from actually doing it?

1. Not sure if you really want it or not?

2. Financial? (can't afford it / don't want to spend that much money)

3. Afraid that you won't like it afterward, and will be stuck unhappy with it forever?

4. Afraid of surgical complications?

5. Afraid of after-effects? (things like tiredness, osteoperosis, and possibly having to take hormones afterward.)

6. Reproduction? (still want kids)

7. Sexual concerns? (still want sex, afraid change would destroy that)

8. Family concerns? (Afraid of what your family would think, and couldn't imagine explaining it to them.)

9. Social concerns? (Afraid of what others would think, don't want to be judged.)

10. Other reason not mentioned here.

11. None of the above. I'm doing it. All I need is a place to do it and the money to pay for it.

To me, it's more of #1, #2 and #4.

I am still not exactly sure what I really want

And I haven't told my boyfriend about this.

Peter47-NL (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:22 pm Very good questions Cheetaking!

For me it is about a castration, which is a less drastic operation, also for the way I would look after the operation.

My points are # 1 and # 2. For me is # 1 related to # 5. I'm not so afraid about what others will think. I would hardly tell anybody and I'm not afraid of going to a nudist camping, and so forth. Probably people would not notice it and when they notice it there is a lot of respect for all the variations in how people's naked bodies look and there are many good reasons to be castrated, among others medical reasons.

I Wrote I'm not so afraid about what others will think

and this was a reaction on # 8 and #9.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 8. Family concerns? (Afraid of what your family would think, and couldn't imagine explaining it to them.)

I would not tell it my family.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 9. Social concerns? (Afraid of what others would think, don't want to be judged.)

I would probably only tell it a few very close friends.

Thinking about this I had to admit that I was afraid to speak about my desire for a castration with my general practitioner. Today I had the courage to raise the subject. He told me that he has two transgender patients in his practice, a Female to Male and a Male to Female, but he had never heard about Male to Eunuch transgender. He took me serious and promised to take a look at the online article "The Development of Standards of Care for individuals with a Male-to-Eunuch Gender Identity Disorder" that I got from Jesus and that I showed him. So there is an opening and I'll enter it with an open mind.

You have done a brave thing. I hope that it all works out well for you. --FLO--

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Peter47-NL (imported) wrote: Wed Dec 19, 2012 2:22 pm

Peter47-NL (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:29 am I'm not so afraid about what others wi

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and this was a reaction on # 8 and #9.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 8. Family concerns? (Afraid of what your family would think, and couldn't imagine explaining it to them.)
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I would not tell it my family.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 9. Social concerns? (Afraid of what others would think, don't want to be judged.)

I would probably only tell it a few very close friends.

Thinking about this I had to admit that I was afraid to speak about my desire for a castration with my general practitioner. Today I had the courage to raise the subject. He told me that he has two transgender patients in his practice, a Female to Male and a Male to Female, but he had never heard about Male to Eunuch transgender. He took me serious and promised to take a look at the online article "The Development of Standa

rds of Care for individuals with a Male-to-Eunuch Gender Identity Disorder" that I got from Jesus and that I showed him. So there is an opening and I'll enter it with an open mind.

Yes a very brave thing and something I was not able to do. Other than saying it in passing to a doctor to gauge his reaction. Please keep us posted!

Uncle Flo (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2013 8:59 am You have done a brave thing. I hope that it all works out well for you. --FLO--

Thanks Tugon and Uncle Flo. I feel very happy and relaxed now by what I did. I don't know what the result will be, living with or without my balls. I told my GP that my coming out as gay was very difficult, that I have struggled so much with admitting and realizing some other desires and that admitting my desire for a castration was the most difficult of all. I think he believed me, while he knows me.

5. I don't have any good way to stay active enough as it is, blood pressure is kinda low, etc. I already spend most of my time grappling with akrasia, and it sounds like the mental side-effects of castration could worsen that.

Well, and I'm about 13 years too late for it to do what I want. (It was about three years after puberty that I discovered what castration does to testosterone, but I wasn't aware of the other side-effects at the time, so if I could have done so safely without having to tell anyone, I probably would have.).

Money and the ability to do it without going through my family (bleh) are both obstacles as well, but I kinda feel like a solution to the negative side-effects and a solution to the economic/independence parts would be closely connected.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am These are going to be some big questions, which I'm really hoping for serious answers about.

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cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am THE QUESTION (for the uncut):

So here's a serious question for everyone who truly believes that they want to either be castrated, penectomized, or have the opposite gender's genitals like me. I'm just asking out of curiosity: What is the number one concern that is holding you back from actually doing it?

1. Not sure if you really want it or not?

I first became aware that those things were wrong for me and that I should have girl parts when

I was around 8 years old. I didn't know why boys and girls were different or what either's things

were used for at that time. I have had those feelings at one time or another ever since then.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 2. Financial? (can't afford it / don't want to spend that much money)

I could somehow manage to find a way to pay for it. At this point it would have to be declared

medically necessary for my wife to agree even though she hasn't used them for four years.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 3. Afraid that you won't like it afterward, and will be stuck unhappy with it forever?

I have had enough years to know that would not be the case for me. It might even allow me

more freedom in openly expressing my mixed sexuality.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 4. Afraid of surgical complications?

For me to be permitted any surgeries they would have to be declared medically thus being

performed by qualified surgeons so that would not be a major concern.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 5. Afraid of after-effects? (things like tiredness, osteoperosis, and possibly having to take hormones afterward.)

Don't see that being a major concern. The main thing would be getting my wife to agree to estrogen (instead

of testosterone) and getting my doctor to prescribe it.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 6. Reproduction? (still want kids)

My children are adults and there is no desire for us to have any more.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 7. Sexual concerns? (still want sex, afraid change would destroy that)

Not a concern as we no longer have sex due to my wife's dryness and pain from penetration.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 8. Family concerns? (Afraid of what your family would think, and couldn't imagine explaining it to them.)

Only family concern is with my wife - she would object except in case of it being medically necessary.

Thus that limits my possible choices to castration and penectomy with urethra relocation. Other family

is not an issue as there is only my elderly mother and my sister and they would not have to know as

I could possibly only appear to them in full male form. Would want to appear with my wife in both male

and female mode which would be difficult for to accept.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 9. Social concerns? (Afraid of what others would think, don't want to be judged.)

Nobody else would have to know the difference unless I would choose to make them aware.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 10. Other reason not mentioned here.

None that I can think of right mow.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am 11. None of the above. I'm doing it. All I need is a place to do it and the money to pay for it.

I would pursue it openly using every possible means if I could get my wife's support.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am ALTERNATE QUESTION (for the cut):

Q p1.) Before you had it done, what was your #1 concern?

Q p2.) Did that concern prove to be true or not once it was over?

Q p3.) (if you really feel like being a friend and answering:)) How in the world were you able to tell the people you love about it? (THIS is the issue that is tearing me up inside, making me feel so confused.)

That is a real concern for me with respect to my wife. I would like to be able to take on a more feminine

roll openly with her in both private and public situations. That is my biggest concern and stopping point.

Age is also a drawback but many things can be overcome where that is an issue if I can do it soon.

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 17, 2012 6:55 am Again, I'm just hoping to see what other people's thoughts on the matter are, and hopefully gain some insight into my own situation through the wisdom of others.

The main issue for you if you feel that it is right for you should be timing. Do it while you are still young

when your options are greater and you will have longer to enjoy your new life.

:dong::)

Financial is what stops me.

As you can see I have done it. I have no concerns of what others will think. What is done is done... Now just to cut off the penis. Hopefully soon. Considering the fact that I have gotten full help from my insurance and urologists in this I am very happy

I know this is a little late, but I just REALLY wanted to thank everyone for their responses. I started this topic because I was trying to figure out whether my fears about telling others, and what others would think, were a common thing or not. And apparently, they aren't. This thread really helped me to realize that I shouldn't be so worried about that, and really the only thing holding me back from pursuing my dreams was myself.

And I think you all will be happy to know, I am NOT letting that hold me back anymore. So thanks, everyone, this was a really big help, and thanks to you all, I discovered true happiness for the first time in my entire life. I might not have had the courage to do it otherwise. So again, thank you very much!

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:40 am I know this is a little late, but I just REALLY wanted to thank everyone for their responses. I started this topic because I was trying to figure out whether my fears about telling others, and what others would think, were a common thing or not. And apparently, they aren't. This thread really helped me to realize that I shouldn't be so worried about that, and really the only thing holding me back from pursuing my dreams was myself.

And I think you all will be happy to know, I am NOT letting that hold me back anymore. So thanks, everyone, this was a really big help, and thanks to you all, I discovered true happiness for the first time in my entire life. I might not have had the courage to do it otherwise. So again, thank you very much!

The fear of telling others, especially those close to you, is a real concern for many. It has keep me from sharing my concerns with them for many years.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=nn1ehKAo3ak& ... n1ehKAo3ak

cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2013 3:40 am I know this is a little late, but I just REALLY wanted to thank everyone for their responses. I started this topic because I was trying to figure out whether my fears about telling others, and what others would think, were a common thing or not. And apparently, they aren't. This thread really helped me to realize that I shouldn't be so worried about that, and really the only thing holding me back from pursuing my dreams was myself.

And I think you all will be happy to know, I am NOT letting that hold me back anymore. So thanks, everyone, this was a really big help, and thanks to you all, I discovered true happiness for the first time in my entire life. I might not have had the courage to do it otherwise. So again, thank you very much!

Cheetaking Your avatar reminds me this (Link above kk)

If not your personality

foxytaur (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:21 am http://youtube.com/watch?v=nn1ehKAo3ak& ... n1ehKAo3ak

Cheetaking Your avatar reminds me this (Link above kk)

If not your personality

OMG, TOTALLY!!! That is awesome! (Here's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcZro7pX2gA) another one by the way (probably more accurate to real life given my height and hair color,) but yeah, let's just say that there's a reason why this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiHXASgRTcA) is like my favorite Youtube video ever. [OMG, they're so adorable I'm gonna die!])

Anyway, yeah, pretty much. (Not to distract from the topic at hand or anything... :p cute kittens make ANY topic better!)

I will post this in a couple of places:

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Kristoff

For me it is finding a surgeon to do it without the hassle and rigmarole that you have to go through ...

Cash? No problem.

Time? Again, no problem.

Family? None - I'm by myself.

I reckon a trip to Thailand for my 60th Birthday is on the cards ...

feedback,

Is your wife against you having your male parts removed or is it something else? I read one article about a man who wanted to have his male parts removed and his wife finally agreed to it, but she was against him transitioning into a woman. She said she'd divorce him if he started dressing like a woman. She thought that was just to weird and odd, but getting rid of his penis and testicles was o.k. So he got the surgery and is a mangina man still living with his wife. Apparently she didn't care about intercourse or being penetrated, so now they share similar parts and loving it.

Hash (imported) wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2013 9:30 am feedback,

Is your wife against you having your male parts removed or is it something else? I read one article about a man who wanted to have his male parts removed and his wife finally agreed to it, but she was against him transitioning into a woman. She said she'd divorce him if he started dressing like a woman. She thought that was just to weird and odd, but getting rid of his penis and testicles was o.k. So he got the surgery and is a mangina man still living with his wife. Apparently she didn't care about intercourse or being penetrated, so now they share similar parts and loving it.

Sounds like my situation, except the divorce part.

Over the last week or so my wife has actually offered to let me try on some of her clothing.

Needless to say it was fun and a somewhat awakening experience.

thraddash (imported) wrote: Sun Feb 24, 2013 5:49 pm Sounds like my situation, except the divorce part.

Over the last week or so my wife has actually offered to let me try on some of her clothing.

Needless to say it was fun and a somewhat awakening experience.

And you looked FANTASTIC

And you looked FANTASTIC

I second that.