after castration

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I take it that you voluntarily had an orchiectomy? That's interesting - I would not have voluntarily done that. I had a bilateral orchiectomy to deprive my prostate cancer of testosterone which fuels the cancer. So I am unable to be on HRT. It is interesting that another post said that men cannot live without testosterone. Yes you can and I have out of necessity. There are a few things I can tell you. You will most likely have hot flashes - usually after 2 to 3 months. You will lose the ability to have erections, or at least firm erections. And you most likely will lose the ability to have orgasms. I can still have them but it takes a lot of time and work and when I have one it is more like a sneeze than the orgasms I used to have - and be prepared for little to no ejaculation as time progresses. The next post said your penis will get smaller. That is definately true. Mine is about half its original size. You most likely will gain some weight and not in the places you usually gain weight. It will be in the hips and probably the mammary area. I did develop small breasts. Sexual relations as you knew them will no longer exist. I was very upset right after an up to a couple of months after my orchi becuse my ability to have erections substantially decreased sithin weeks of my orchi. But now I don't mind so much as it is more of a distant memory and I don't care as much. So I hope that helps you.
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..
Deliveryman1994 (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 5:10 am . Sexual relations as you knew them will no longer exist. I was very upset right after an up to a couple of months after my orchi becuse my ability to have erections substantially decreased sithin weeks of my orchi. But now I don't mind so much as it is more of a distant memory and I don't care as much. So I hope that helps you.

You may want to consult your urologist about using estrogen to reverse many of the effects of being castrated since you cannot use supplemental testosterone.
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Thanks all your. Yes I am voluntarily had an orchiectomy(29.Oct.2013).

On 19.Nov
peteraln (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:09 pm .2013 I had my first injection "Depo-Testosterone 100mg",
everyday I will have erections on night and day times or when I enter the "eunuch" during when I read all interesting discussion about castrated issue I will have my erections. I do not know why?

This month and Dec Singapore polyclinic doctor will not giving me any injection, until 03.Jan.2014 after I go for Singapore General Hospital Urology specially, for Testosterone test and get the letter from the Urology specially, I cannot get any injection or buy any medical from clinic or pharmacy, but I still have some "Andriol Testocaps 40mg" allow me for another month to take, next month I will travel Malaysia to buy the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg". I will only take one pill on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday, I only want to remain low testosterone just to avoid the castrated side effect.

Unit now I still do not have any side effect and I will happy and feel great to be castrated.
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peteraln (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:01 am Thanks all your. Yes I am voluntarily had an orchiectomy(29.Oct.2013).

On 19.Nov
peteraln (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:09 pm .2013 I had
peteraln (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:01 am my first injection "Depo-Testosterone 100mg",
everyday I will have erections on night and day times or when I enter the "eunuch" during when I read all interesting discussion about castrated issue I will have my erections. I do not know why?

This month and Dec Singapore polyclinic doctor will not giving me any injection, until 03.Jan.2014 after I go for Singapore General Hospital Urology specially, for Testosterone test and get the letter from the Urology specially, I cannot get any injection or buy any medical from clinic or pharmacy, but I still have some "Andriol Testocaps 40mg" allow me for another month to take, next month I will travel Malaysia to buy the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg". I will only take one pill on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday, I only want to remain low testosterone just to avoid the castrated side effect.

Unit now I still do not have any side
effect and I will happy and feel great to be castrated.

You may be able to purchase injectables or testosterone gel in Malaysia to tide you over until you resolve matters with the healthcare bureaucracy in Singapore. I would think that if you no longer have testicles that the Singaporean health officials would reasonably determine that you need some sort of supplemental T, despite whatever non-prescribed medicine you are already using to ward off the detrimental effects of being castrated in the meanwhile.

For me, I still get morning erections using a low dose of Androgel but without any interest in sex. Like you, I am very happy with the concomitant effects of having my testicles removed.
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Thanks unencumbered

I will only take the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg" for a moment, until I get the letter. But I have injection once I do not like the feeling of the injection(a bit pain and pain for whole day), if by taking "Andriol Testocaps 40mg",
unencumbered (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:27 am
peteraln (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:01 am only take one
pill on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday,
can kept me healthy and low sex diver, I will continue taking "Andriol Testocaps 40mg" without any injection. Hope this way can solve my side effect problem.

Haha. Now I only regret that I never do it on my younger years(ago 20~25). I enjoy now I be a eunuch. Free of removal my both testicles and scrotum.
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peteraln (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 12:11 pm Thanks unencumbered

I will only take the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg" for a moment, until I get the letter. But I have injection once I do not like the feeling of the injection(a bit pain and pain for whole day), if by taking "Andriol Testocaps 40mg",
unencumbered (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:27 am
peteraln (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 11:01 am only take one
pill on Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday,
can kept me healthy and low sex diver, I will continue taking "Andriol Testocaps 40mg" without any injection. Hope this way can solve my side effect problem.

Haha. Now I only regret that I n
ever do it on my younger years(ago 20~25). I enjoy now I be a eunuch. Free of removal my both testicles and scrotum.

Don't forget that pill form testosterone is very hard on the liver. Not intended for long term use. Also, be sure you inform urologist of what you are using so that they can calculate for its effect on your levels.
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Thanks kristoff,

I will inform the urologist. Beside the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg" any other pills than less side effect you know. Can you recommend some for me.
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Dear All,

Can any guys recommend pills for HRT beside "Andriol Testocaps 40mg".

Can I know after castrated will the blood pressure increase or decrease any change? Thanks. Peteraln
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peteraln (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:26 pm Dear All,

Can any guys recommend pills for HRT beside "Andriol Testocaps 40mg".

Can I know after castrated will the blood pressure increase or decrease any change? Thanks. Peteraln

There are no pill-form testosterone supplements that are not hard on the liver. switch to trans-dermal or injectable forms.
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Castration is NOT for 90% of the people. Having lived with it, I would recommend it for most people. It really does take a special person to live with no T.
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Ok. But what type of trans-dermal is the best and less side effect?
peteraln (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 1:26 pm Can I know after castrated will the blood pressure increase or decrease any change? Thanks. Peteraln
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Dear OneBallBoi,

I really do not fully understand what you mean. I need HRT just to avoid after castrated side effect, I never regret castrated, and if time go back again I will do the some choose Bilateral Orchiemtomy Surgery again. Peteraln
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peteraln (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:09 pm Hi All,

Sorry for the late reply. Thanks for your good advise. I had my surgery at Thailand "kamol hospital" http://kamolhospital.com/home. Cost me about US$5000.00.

19.Oct.2013 I had my first injection "Depo-Testosterone 100mg", and 03.Jan 2014 I will go for my first appointment for the Testosterone test, so now I will try to take "Andriol Testocaps 40mg"(maybe one week two time), just to remain healthy. And the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg" I brought from Thailand, Singapore I cannot buy without prescriptions, and same as to inject the "Depo-Testosterone 100mg", without the Urology specially letter, the polyclinic doctor will not do the injection for me again..... So from next month before seek for the Urology specially help , I will just take the "Andriol Testocaps 40mg"(maybe one week two time), hope can remain healthy. Sad.

Peterain: Glad to hear it went well. Just a quick question, did you need to supply any documentation prior to your op? I mean, a letter from a Doctor stating that this op was understood and needed. Many thanks
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Each country is different with different rules, and as we have noticed here in the USA they too change over time, best to find out what is the standard for the country you live in and go from there.

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antoniafrancesca (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:49 pm Peterain: Glad to hear it went well. Just a quick question, did you need to supply any documentation prior to your op? I mean, a letter from a Doctor stating that this op was understood and needed. Many thanks

I had the letter from Singapore hospital, but the letter do not support me for the surgery, I get the psychology letter from Bangkok government hospital psychologist, and I need to sign a Voluntary castration letter(My surgery doctor Komal).
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Peterain Many thanks for the response. I hope that you are as content as I imagine you are. It will be my turn in a few months if all goes well. I have always felt that what is being charged for this operation really is outrageous for what the operation entails. I had a vasectomy in South America and that cost US$300. So, if you consider that a bi-lateral orchiectomy is a double vasectomy plus a little extra to cut out the spare skin (scrotum) then it should not cost much more than $500 - $600. I had a circumcision in Malaysia about 10 years ago and at that time (in an expensive clinic) I only paid US$400.

You know, I have never injected myself in my life. The first time was yestarday when I injected my testicle and it went very well. I have studied so many orchiectomies on youtube that I am confident, given the right tools and anasthetic, I could do this.

So, if there happens to be a US Network TV producer reading this forum, I am volunteering to perform an orchiectomy on myself for recording and subsequent

broadcast on TV. + plus do a personal TV interview to go with the operation film. What I will require is:

1) US$ 8,5000 (net of US taxes)plus my travel and hotel expenses for the recording

2) Transportation costs to and from my home to the studios

3) An equipped operating theater with a surgeon on stand-by (out of camera shot to advise me as to what I should be doing)

4) A large magnifying mirror so that I can see what I am doing.

5) A first class make-up artist to "feminize" me so that my friends and family don't recognize me on TV

6) An ambulance on stand-by in case something goes wrong

7) A financial deal on sales of this program to overseas or US TV networks

To me, that is an offer they cannot refuse......

and, in the best traditions of rock singers and other celebrities

1) 10 bags of M&M's with the red ones removed

2) 2 bottles of Rosé wine at room temperature

3) A set of VS underwear to use after the op.

Failing this I would go to Bangkok - find an Urologist and go to his office with a roll of banknotes in my hand and explain how much I would be prepared to pay

for him to do the op without all the stupidity of papers. If he says that's not possible, I would get up to go and then be called back by the surgeon who who sees

money walking out the door.
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antoniafrancesca (imported) wrote: Thu Dec 19, 2013 3:35 pm Peterain Many thanks for the response. I hope that you are as content as I imagine you are. It will be my turn in a few months if all goes well. I have always felt that what is being charged for this operation really is outrageous for what the operation entails. I had a vasectomy in South America and that cost US$300. So, if you consider that a bi-lateral orchiectomy is a double vasectomy plus a little extra to cut out the spare skin (scrotum) then it should not cost much more than $500 - $600. I had a circumcision in Malaysia about 10 years ago and at that time (in an expensive clinic) I only paid US$400.

You know, I have never injected myself in my life. The first time was yestarday when I injected my testicle and it went very well. I have studied so many orchiectomies on youtube that I am confident, given the right tools and anasthetic, I could do this.

So, if there happens to be a US Network TV producer reading this forum, I am volunteering to perform an orchiectomy on myself for recording and subsequent

broadcast on TV. + plus do a personal TV interview to go with the operation film. What I will require is:

1) US$ 8,5000 (net of US taxes)plus my travel and hotel expenses for the recording

2) Transportation costs to and from my home to the studios

3) An equipped operating theater with a surgeon on stand-by (out of camera shot to advise me as to what I should be doing)

4) A large magnifying mirror so that I can see what I am doing.

5) A first class make-up artist to "feminize" me so that my friends and family don't recognize me on TV

6) An ambulance on stand-by in case something goes wrong

7) A financial deal on sales of this program to overseas or US TV networks

To me, that is an offer they cannot refuse......

and, in the best traditions of rock singers and other celebrities

1) 10 bags of M&M's with the red ones removed

2) 2 bottles of Rosé wine at room temperature

3) A set of VS underwear to use after the op.

Failing this I would go to Bangkok - find an Urologist and go to his office with a roll of banknotes in my hand and explain how much I would be prepared to pay

for him to do the op without all the stupidity of papers. If he says that's not possible, I would get up to go and then be called back by the surgeon who who sees

money walking out the door.

Now if you or your friends need to circumcision in Malaysia, you may only need to pay about US$400~US$500. For the bilateral orchiectomy surgery if you do not have any psychology letter I do not think you can get a legal doctor and legal way to do the surgery for you (Thailand or Malaysia). You can try your way and let us know.
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(rant)Yes, medical charges in US are what a monopolistic restricted market can bear, hence the ACA. The charges , by anyone else's standards are nothing short of the outrageous. (/rant) This is why medical tourism is so popular.

The difference in the medical charges is often more than enough to pay for fare and accommodation, -and some. I've heard it said that some Thailand clinics will arrange a local interview for the purposes of the justifying letter. It is no trouble for most; they just want to know that the planned procedure is not inappropriate before doing something bad and irreversible. (I believe there was a rash of young Thai kids who were nutted before being sufficiently adult to make good choices. It's really to stop this sort of thing.)

I would think that it's easy to ask the clinic or surgeon overseas to see what is required before buying the ticket. It may turn out to be easier than often supposed, and a lot cheaper.
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OneBallBoi (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:04 pm Castration is NOT for 90% of the people. Having lived with it, I would recommend it for most people. It really does take a special person to live with no T.

Thanks for the compliment! I am very special. No T, only minimal E. And I feel good!
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That is a very good reply - however, I am convinced when the time is right, I'll find a Thai surgeon to do it at less then $500 and do a good job. I remember when I got circumcised in Kuala Lumpur, the hotel doctor found me a surgeon for which I had to pay him US$100 for the consultation and I told the surgeon I was only in KL for two more days and if he wanted the job, he would have to do it the following day. For US$ cash, he opened his office 30 minutes early to fit me in. Finding a surgeon over the internet is not as easy as sitting in his office with cash in hand!!
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antoniafrancesca (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 20, 2013 2:41 am That is a very good reply - however, I am convinced when the time is right, I'll find a Thai surgeon to do it at less then $500 and do a good job. I remember when I got circumcised in Kuala Lumpur, the hotel doctor found me a surgeon for which I had to pay him US$100 for the consultation and I told the surgeon I was only in KL for two more days and if he wanted the job, he would have to do it the following day. For US$ cash, he opened his office 30 minutes early to fit me in. Finding a surgeon over the internet is not as easy as sitting in his office with cash in hand!!

I had do my circumcise surgery 30 years ago(1983) only total about Singapore $300~$400(US$100~$250)(1982).

Bilateral orchiectomy surgery the doctor will required for psychology letter. Bangkok have one cheap clinic only US$1250, and the doctor also required for psychology letter, you can search from the website.

The reason why I did not choose the cheap clinic was I do not trust the doctor. If you want to do the legal way, you really need to get a psychology letter. Before you travel you need to check and make sure you find more inform from them.

12 years ago(before 2003) if I require for bilateral orchiectomy surgery(Thailand), I will only need to pay less than US$1000, without require psychology letter and most of the clinic doctor can do the job.

Less than US$500 you cannot get a legal doctor doing the legal way for the bilateral orchiectomy surgery. This I am very sure.
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