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cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:42 pm You don t hear of many female to male surgeries to provide female transplant sex organs for males to use going to female bodies. .

It does make me wonder if infant ciircumcisions contribute to later urges in males to modify male sex organs more often than females who are never circumcised in western cultures ?

I do think infant circumcisions have a lot to do with wanting to modify our male sex organs.

It is a lot easier to make a vagina out of a penis, but it is very hard to make a penis out of a vagina. I always wondered how many males that wanted a penectomy would actually donate their penis to a FTM if it was possible.

There have been penis transplants. It is generally male to male though, I'm sure that there's a lot more involved than just attach and go, but I could be wrong.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:42 pm I m sorry to hear so much tissue goes to waste. What a terrible waste of so much fine man meat ! Treating male genital tissues like medical waste to be thrown out or burned up is a shame and that s no way to treat such miraculous organs. Its too bad it can t be more productively re used

I thought McDonald's (other fast food outlets do exist) bought them for their burgers,:D

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 17, 2017 4:42 pm It does make me wonder if infant ciircumcisions contribute to later urges in males to modify male sex organs more often than females who are never circumcised in western cultures ?

I strongly believe that circumcision opens the door to other genital modifications. In most psychological books, we may read this "Circumcision now, castration then". In my case, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, I have started to fantasize about genital modification shortly after I've learned that I had been circumcised, I was 12 y.o. at the time. I had never heard of, read or seen anything about that and I could fantasize about meatotomy, subincision, genital piercing like P.A. and so on. Then, I started to fantasize about castration. At 14-15 y.o. I was tying shoelace or elactic band around my genitals (I didn't even know that method was used to castrate animals). I was piercing my penis with sewing needles and so on. I hated (and I'm still hating) my own genitals so much that led me to 2 castration attempts and later 8 years of chem castration, to avoid any sexual relation. Why? Because I was too embarrassed about my genitals appearance and also to avoid rejection.

My embarrassement comes from the fact that no less than 85% of my penis skin was removed during my circumcision, this prevented the natural penis growth during puberty and the glans was attached close to the scrotum. For those who think that circumcised penis are more aesthetic, thrust me it isn't.

I can no longer stand the lies about circumcision benefits and sometime I get carried away. Ever since the victorian era there have been over 50 diseases that circumcision was supposed to cure or prevent, all were proven to be false. On top of the list, circumcision was proposed to prevent masturbtion because, according to physicians at the time, this was the leading cause of blindness. No wonder that parents were prone to get their sons circumcised.

The latetest lies are to prevent H.I.V. transmission and prostate cancer. Of course it these were true, USA would have the lowest rate of these diseases in the world, which is quite the contrary for both of them. The countries who have the lowest H.I.V. rate in the world have also the lowest circumcision rate.

What about cleanliness ? Since my comming out at 27 y.o., I must have sucked off well over thousand of intact penis. Here, where I live 85% of men are intact and not once I had the opportunity to smell smegma. I guess it is normal to all male to shower everyday, at least before sexual encounters. Notice, it is just as easy to wash the foreskin than to wash our assholes. So where is the problem ?

Infections ? Most infant penis infections come from the lack of education concerning the care of intact boys. Ignorant doctors will tell the parents to retract their boy's foreskin. That is wrong, in infancy, the foreskin is fused to the glans, forced retraction may cause bleeding therefore opening the door to infections and para phimosis. Therefore doctors see an opportunity to circumcise the boy and cash in money. By the Way para phimosis and phimosis can be cure without surgeries.

S.T.D.'s, to prevent them, the only option is to wear condom. Circumcised men are even more at risk, because circumcised men have less sensitive glans, so they don't like to wear condom.

There exist not one valid reason to justify infants circumcision. Sure, circumfetishism exist among adults but does the boy into it ??? Until he can consent to it, circumcision should be considered a rape, a child abuse, a sexual aggression. The psychological trauma will last for ever.

ambiguous (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:03 am I thought McDonald's (other fast food outlets do exist) bought them for their burgers,:D

I ve been eating ground up beef and pork cocks and balls in hot dogs, brats, and other meat my whole life lol . Plus, I eat rocky mountain oysters every chance I get.

McDonald s hasn t offered those yet. I m still hoping for bull and calf nuts some day at the drive up window.

Hey Paring,

I agree that intense circumcision pain right after being born must imprint such intense pain associated with the penis that it has to have a lingering affect on some men and boys. It is also one of the most significant and earliest physical sensations that cut infants feel outside of the womb. It would be interesting to know how many eunuchs and men into ball busting and rough cbt are cut versus uncut ?

Most boys do learn they are cut or uncut in middle school locker rooms by comparing a lot of naked bodies daily for phy ed and sports around 10 to 13 yesrs old here in the USA.. As a past coach of guys that age, some asked me why dicks look different and why my dick was uncovered at the head when showering or changing as a group? No one had ever explained circumcision to many of the cut and uncut boys up to then. I d explain it and show them my cut scar and how foreskins work to the cut guys who were missing their skins. None of the uncut guys were eager to demonstrate their uncut skins to the cut guys on how they retract to piss and have sex lol. So it left me the only one they felt comfortable asking about circumcision. Most uncut guys thought cirs were crazy to do to any penis. The cut guys didn t see why anyone would ever want to cut their dicks either. I agreed it was unneeded and brutal to cut dicks at all. Most kids got kind of queasy hearing about cutting any dicks and scar marks on dicks.

Your extreme circumcision is unjustified. What did they do ? Have all the trainees cut more skin off your dick to learn how to do it ? No way you needed that extreme a circumcision as an infant. Sorry to hear you suffered so much from that.

I agree the reasons are all made up lies that apply to very few or no males. Its a surgery looking for any excuse to be allowed on infants and adults. Other solutions can solve anymmedical problems without needing cirs at all.

Too bad any males are cut before they have the chance to decide on it for themselves. Countries with no routine infant circumcisions do not have lots of uncut adult men asking to be cut. Those men want to keep their foreskins in most cases.

I m betting adult foreskins still get sold for cosmetics and other products to make money for cutters doingbthe cirs on adult men.

It makes me wonder why any drs are cutting so far down penis shafts without a special request by an adult getting cut? A normal circumcision should only bare the dick head, not cut way down the whole shaft. There s no justification for cutting off big sheets of foreskin and shaft skin.

I somewhat regret that I didn't get a chance to decide if I wanted to circumcised. I still choose to be circumcised. I would choose to be done high & tight, rather than having the loose skin that hangs halfway down my glands.

Hey Paring,

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:43 am It would be interesting to know how many eunuchs and men into ball busting and rough cbt are cut versus uncut ?

Most boys do learn they are cut or uncut in middle school locker rooms by comparing a lot of naked bodies daily for phy ed and sports around 10 to 13 ye

ars old here in the USA.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:43 am None of the uncut guys were eager to demonstrate their uncut skins to the cut guys on how they retract to piss and have sex lol.

I m betting adult foreskins still get sold for cosmetics and other products to make money for cutters doingbthe cirs on adult men.

It makes me wonder why any drs are cutting so far down penis shafts without a special request by an adult getting cut?

Indeed, I'm into CBT .

Yes I discovered that i was different in the gym shower. I looked like a fucking freak. Here most men my age are intact. When I confronted my father about it he just giggled and that made me mad.

Of course, if uncut guys would demonstrate how foreskin work, they might pass as gay, plus many would tell them, "if you aren't cut you aren't not normal". I've heard this one so many time.

Why so much skin is remove? It's because they are sold by the pound. They cut them when they are babies because there'd be fewer adult men agreeing to be circumcised.

Interesting thing, when I got cut last month I wasn't exactly sure what to expect. Ended up with a "low and tight". Quite tight actually, ended up losing a couple inches when flaccid, and about 3/4 when erect. I'm sure things will stretch out a bit, but even adult cuts, they can take quite a bit.

When I was growing up I was the only uncut kid and felt odd! I chose to be circumcised at age 33 and do not regret it for myself. I was able to make my own decision.

Want2losethem (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:58 pm Interesting thing, when I got cut last month I wasn't exactly sure what to expect. Ended up with a "low and tight". Quite tight actually, ended up losing a couple inches when flaccid, and about 3/4 when erect. I'm sure things will stretch out a bit, but even adult cuts, they can take quite a bit.

Wow, most men would consider that loss in penis size to be a very high price to pay for a circumcision and any benefits from getting cut. That makes me wonder how much penis size reduction is caused by circs at any age. Infant circs wouldn t even know what penis size they lost to being cut as infants or before puberty. Most men put such a high value on having a large penis that any size loss would be reason enough not to circumcise penises at all. At least let each man decide for himself and decide how much foreskin gets cut off, not the drs.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:10 am Wow, most men would consider that loss in penis size to be a very high price to pay for a circumcision and any benefits from getting cut. That makes me wonder how much penis size reduction is caused by circs at any age. Infant circs wouldn t even know what penis size they lost to being cut as infants or before puberty. Most men put such a high value on having a large penis that any size loss would be reason enough not to circumcise penises at all. At least let each man decide for himself and decide how much foreskin gets cut off, not the drs.

With everything that has happened in the past 6 weeks, it is the least of my concern. The loss in flaccid length is not a problem. The erect length is a bit different, I definitely want the missing back, but I still need to be gentle right now. It will probably be a month or two before I'll really care. It does seem to be a fairly aggressive cut.

sparkey49 (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:15 pm When I was growing up I was the only uncut kid and felt odd! I chose to be circumcised at age 33 and do not regret it for myself. I was able to make my own decision.

So, how was sex and orgasm for you, was it different in being cut versus uncut ? You got to compare both as an adult and sexually active as both. How is penis sensativity cut and uncut ?

Have other uncut men commented on you getting cut ? What did they think of it ? What was your motivation to get cut since kid locker room comparing and any teasing was a past thing by age 33 ?

Want2losethem,

Did you choose your circumcision details, like how much to cut off ? Or did the dr? It sounds like it was a surprise to you he cut so much. Did the dr say it d stretch out over time or stay smaller ?

I d be pissed. But I m big on dick size. Other men are different of course.

cutnbulls2ox, I don't remember a lot of difference between before and after being circumcised as far as sex and orgasm. As for why, well our son we had not had circumcised but when he was two he had an issue with his foreskin getting infected it would not retract either. The doctor said he had never seen this but after many months of trying everything and every time he would urinate he would scream. Finally it was decided to have him circumcised and so my wife and I talked and I was circumcised the same day. He never had any more problems and I have liked being circumcised.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:10 pm Have other uncut men commented on you getting cut ? What did they think of it ? What was your motivation to get cut since kid locker room comparing and any teasing was a past thing by age 33 ?

I got cut in my 30's and okay my little chappy was sore for a week or six I consider it to be worth it.

The percentage of folks getting cut in the UK is a lot lower than the States hence getting done in adulthood.

I think its much cleaner down there compared to before as there is simply not that moist warm area that used to breed bacteria and other nasties.

I think this was my main motivation to get circed plus the extra sensation you got through it.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:32 pm Want2losethem,

Did you choose your circumcision details, like how much to cut off ? Or did the dr? It sounds like it was a surprise to you he cut so much. Did the dr say it d stretch out over time or stay smaller ?

I d be pissed. But I m big on dick size. Other men are different of course.

There wasn't too much discussion about it. I was having my left testicle removed and the surgeon suggested to have a circumcision done at the same time. His thought was they were going to be down there anyway, so it would be relatively easy to just take care of it. I had been considering having one done for a while, just had no reason to get it done. This all changed it. He explained the benefits to have it done, risks etc. I had a problem with premature ejaculation, and he suggested going with a "low" cut, showed me some examples of what it looked like. I told him, I wanted a good cosmetic result and I didn't care for the look of wrinkles or a "spare tire" look that some guys have. I ended up with a quite low and quite tight cut, the frenulum was removed (really this is where the only scab still remains between all of the surgeries). I don't care about the shorter look when I'm soft. I went from about 3 inches plus the foreskin overhang, to about 1 inch of shaft plus the glans, so effectively I "lost" probably 3 inches of visual length. It doesn't bother me in the least. When erect it is about 3/4 to an inch shorter than before (depending on the firmness), which again isn't an issue. So I went from about 6 inches erect to about 5 inches. If it went shorter, that still wouldn't bother me. There isn't any pain from an erection, and I was told that visually things would improve over time and shaft skin would stretch out and the length should return in he coming months. His explanation was that I didn't want to have bunched up skin so going as aggressive as he did would allow for the proper level of stretching to take place and prevent bunching and wrinkles from happening. If the length doesn't return, I won't be upset, my penis length is not a huge concern, and has never been something that I've cared about. I do like the way it looks now more than before. I'm just glad to be rid of the pain issues I was having.

Sparky49

That s a lot to give up for your young son to let him grow up looking like you. Congrats on being such a caring father. I hope your son later learned what you did for him and why and that he appreciates you getting cut for his benefit.

I always wonder if women can feel a big difference in making love with the same man cut versus uncut ? You d think they would.

Mine is about the same cut as my fathers, he was born in '59 and me in '89.

I could totally see them taking more skin for more money though. Even though it can save lives, I am not an organ donor because I know that immense profit would be made off of my death. Hopefully before my death I will be living somewhere my organs won't be used for profit.

Ambiguous,

All the cut men will love hearing you felt more sensation after being cut than uncut. Most people seem to think circs and loss of the frenulum especially dulls the penis pleasures a lot. I d think you d lose the extra sensations of all that foreskin and the tight ring and the frenulum and feel way less pleasure than uncut ?

Uncut men seem to differ a lot on under the foreskin cheese and smells, some are oderless and fresh, others have cheese and smells. People debate which of those they prefer the most.

The 30s seem a popular age to get adult circs done. Certainly you knew your choices and responsibly made your decision for yourself.

Did people seem to notice or comment on your new cut ? Most guys in locker rooms and showers don t look close enough to tell unless the circ scar is farther down the shaft enough to be obvious from a distance. But since more Brits are uncut, your circ was likely noticed more.

Glad to hear you liked the results.

Want2losethem,

Yeah, I can see how your painful testicle was the main thing on your mind. Lucky you had a willing dr who cooperated on removing your left gonad. Sounds like he did as you asked on your circ too. Good to hear you like the results and don t mind the loss in length. You re not as vain as me and most men. I m amazed your healing is going so fast. And that erections don t hurt like hell after being cut so tight. Your dr must have been talented or you don t mind pain compared to your left ball pains. Great to hear snipping off the left gave you the instant pain relief that you wanted. Hopefully your right will stay healthy and pain free i d be showing off the one right ball left. Most people will just think your left is high hanging but still there. But being man enough to lose one is worth bragging about and showing off since its most men s great fear that you conquored willingly and smoothly. Sounds like you re pleased with the results. Congrats ! You took it all like a real man !

Prismatic,

I ve heard drs call motorcycles donorcycles. Because they get so many healthy young men in perfect physical condition to be ideal donors from fatal motorcycle accidents and head injuries leaving much of their bodies unharmed.

You and your dad are the exception to my theory, unless you were both cut far down your shafts all those years apart. A Gomco would cut far down even years ago and cut the same way later on. Maybe you both gave a lot of lifesaving foreskin and helped your fellow man. Thanks for commenting and showing some circumcisions haven t cut more off.

It seems like the younger a male is, the more foreskin was cut off.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 5:19 pm Prismatic,

I ve heard drs call motorcycles donorcycles. Because they get so many healthy young men in perfect physical condition to be ideal donors from fatal motorcycle accidents and head injuries leaving much of their bodies unharmed.

I believe that the Ward they end up is called "The vegetable patch" in some hospitals.

cutnbulls2ox,

sparkey49 (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 30, 2017 12:57 pm we had not had circumcised but when he was two he had an issue with his foreskin getting infected it would not retract either.

Sparkey49,

Attempting to retract a boy's foreskin before the age of 10 to 12 years will always result in a damaged, sore and infected foreskin.

When a male is born, the foreskin is attached to the glans with a membrane. This is the same type

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:54 pm of membrane that attaches the finger

nails to the nail bed. As the boy matures the foreskin membrane detaches from the glans over time.

Any doctor that is stupid enough to attempt to retract a foreskin before 10 to 12 years of age should lose their medical license. In fact many parents that do not want their son's circumcised until they are an adult and can decide for themselves, will insist on watching every well baby exam. Parents will remind every nurse, every doctor and even the guy that sweeps the floor that their son's foreskin should not be retracted.

Doctors often cite urinary track infections as a reason to circumcise infants. They claim (correctly) that urinary track infections are greater among American boys that are not circumcised. What they fail to tell the parents is that in Europe among a similar population of intact male infants, urinary track infections are far less than in the United States among circumcised infants.

Why? Because in Europe they know that foreskins should NEVER be retracted. Why not? It causes the exact same symptoms you described. Your doctor damaged your son twice. First when he foolishly retracted your son's foreskin, then when he circumcised him. American doctors don't know how to handle foreskins on men because they've seen so few of them.

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:41 am Sparkey49,

Attempting to retract a boy's foreskin before the age of 10 to 12 years will always result in a damaged, sore and infected foreskin.

I wouldn't agree. It varies person to person. I for example started to retract my foreskin at age 8. It was still quite tight, so it was possible to retract only when soft, but it rolled freely, it wasn't attached to glans at all.