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Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2018 5:57 am
by MikeGrant (imported)
This is just lazy of me! Sorry. Just going to cut and paste something i posted elsewhere on here as it seems relevant.
So I have been off Androcure for a couple of weeks now. As someone quite active, the shortness of breath was at a level that i found scary. Gasping for breath at levels of exertion that didnt come even close to my usual activity levels was just something i could not continue, and something that was evident to people around me. The loss of libido and the feeling it gave me where so positive. The mental / spiritual feelings it gave me are truly confounding. Dont know if this is the Eunuch calm i have read about, but it turned out to be a life changing effect for me. Perhaps i would have made these changes anyway, perhaps not. I will never know. I do know i have started on a new path in my life, and i hope my new mental state is permanent.
I was someone who was just going to get surgically castrated. Feeling this was going to be the answer to my life issues. The complications of its effects on my career became so difficult to navigate i had to stop and rethink. Chatting to men on here who took that route made me realize what an absolutely massive, and irreversible, step i was about to take. It would have been a mistake for me. As a widower in my mid 50s, still totally in love with my wife who took her own life, i have no desire to have anything but platonic relationships. Since her death i have struggled with depression and self medicated with alcohol. Alcohol use led me to dangerous and degrading behavior, and then the search to stop my sexual drive. Hello Eunuch Archive! Obvious solution found here. i communicated with Drs had the cash and was ready to go. Then the road blocks. Androcure has given me the ability to experience castration, its effects were very rapid for me, 2.7 ng/dl after 2 weeks of a half tablet daily. If i find my new mental/spiritual state changing, i know a couple of weeks of Androcure will bring me back. i dont know if others do this, i havnt read about it here, it seems more common to be castrated and use T to control your life. i know everyone's path is different, i am glad i found mine. i think surgical castration is on that path, its just way further down it than i thought.
At the end of the day, you be you cowboy!
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:56 am
by russianboy (imported)
If I will want to father children???
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:27 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Pretty much every man wonders if he wants to be a father some day and if he will ? That s the reason most men wait until after they are finished having all their kids before they get castrated. There s enough time in a lifetime to do it all, but in stages and when you are ready for it. No rush, you are young and have fatherhood and decades of great sex to enjoy your balls before most men get old enough to choose losing their balls. Most men do all those things first and get castrated after those are accomplished.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:48 am
by Decimus. (imported)
You could always have your sperm stored cryogenically before undergoing the knife. I've never had this done and don't know the ins and outs of actually getting a hospital or sperm bank to take and store it for you (there'll probably be a yearly fee involved for the freezer space), but I know for a fact it's technologically possible. Something to look into if that's the only thing holding you back.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:50 am
by paring (imported)
Younger this has never crossed my mind, but since the last 4-5 years, I thought about it. After I ended my chem castration, myT level was so low that I had to be on TRT. That didn't help with my sperm count. I quitted TRT almost 5 years ago and started to work on elevating my T level as well as my sperm count. It's going up slowly, at my last blood test my T level was quite normal but my sperm count was still a bit low. I intend to make a sperm deposit as soon as my sperm count will high enough. One of my dreams is to father a child. I can garantie that it will happen but I"ll try. At this point my castration desire is at its peak and this is bugging me a lot., I don't want to get it done too soon and ruin my chance to father a child. Just like Qunuch81, I might have regrets to have lost my testes and I might regret it even morte if lost the chance to father a child. Just like Qunuch81, I have this irresistible desire to be castrated but I'm also conscious that I might sometime regret it.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 5:53 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Decimus. (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 3:48 am
You could always have your sperm stored cryogenically before undergoing the knife. I've never had this done and don't know the ins and outs of actually getting a hospital or sperm bank to take and store it for you (there'll probably be a yearly fee involved for the freezer space), but I know for a fact it's technologically possible. Something to look into if that's the only thing holding you back.
My balls got damaged and my dr told me to be ready to lose my balls or their sperm and testosterone making abilities at any time in the fuuture. So, I checked into sperm banking and what it would cost.
There are online companies that will do it by long distance for the lowest costs. Going to a clinic seems to cost more. You pay and the internet sperm bankers will send you the storage vials, instructions on do it yourself sperm collection and how to send your sperm back, and dry ice to collect your own sperm by masturbation into small containers at home that you keep frozen and mail in to the sperm bank long distance. Those usually cost the least at around $400 to $1000 to set up to store and around $400 to $1000 a year to pay to keep your sperm in deep freeze and waiting to be thawed out for use.
The bigger question is how well each man s sperm freezes and thaws out. Some men can thaw out their frozen sperm and his sperm are healthy and fast swimmers that can impregnate a woman easily. Some men s sperm all die from freezing. And any degree in between can happen. One fertility ddr I talked to said it can cost $10,000 to help some men s weak frozen sperm impregnate a woman !
Amazing the work our penis and testicles do for free for us lol !
Local clinics and hospitals usually won t bank sperm unless you are in a large city or you can find a private sperm bank. To jack off in person at a clinic or sperm bank to hand over your fresh sperm means traveling to a place that offers sperm banking.
You don t need any tests or a physical, you just pay your money and masturbate out as many ejaculations as you want to pay for storing. Most sperm banks have a basic minimum cost that includes processing and storing a few ejaculations and add fees to store more ejaculations than that. My sperm count is really high, so my dr said three ejaculations would be plenty of sperm to make all the kids I could ever want to have.
Its common for men and teens with medical problems and men getting vasectomies to choose to store their sperm now. I read about one man who frose his sperm in case his sons ever get sterile and want to use his sperm to have kids.
Take a look online at sperm banks to see lots of details.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 7:08 am
by paring (imported)
Cutnbulls2ox That's very interesting. Have you fathered a child since ?
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 1:11 pm
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Glad its useful information.
No, after looking into it in detail and getting cost estimates from different sperm banks in different places, I sat down and thought long and hard about it.
All my life I knew I was a non breeder by my own choice. Suddenly my balls were at risk and making that choice permanent. I took a while to think over if I d ever use my frozen sperm to have kids. The answer was no. Too much hassle in being with a woman to raise any kids right. Too much drama queen and female moods and irrationality for me to stand 9 months of pregnancy, much less 18 years of raising a kid together. Men are way more harmonious and stay on course in life.
I decided wasting thousands of dollars for how many years of sperm banking and not likely ever using it, to skip the sperm banking for me. Just not a realistic chance I d ever use it. So, I stuck with being childless by choice permanently. I m happy with my decision. Sure every man would like a son to carry on his name and family tree after he is gone. But that s not for me. And it was time to decide for sure before wasting a lot of money for many years.
But I thought I d pass on what I learned about it.
Jacking off for a semen analysis to check on how my testicles were functioning was exactly like jacking off to bank sperm. You show up at the clinic. Wait your turn in a waiting room full of men. You turn comes. You are shown to an exam room with one recliner chair, a sink, a video player and TV to watch videos to help you masturbate. You re told not to ejaculate at all for 3 to 7 days before to save up a good load of sperm for your sample load. They tell you no lube that might kill sperm and to ask for safe lube from the lab that won t screw up your semen analysis or kill your sperm. The lube they give you is cold and watery slime stuff, clear and it dries fast in friction. The videos are so tame they are useless. But you can bring your own videos or printed porn to help you shoot.
You get as much time as you need. There s an intercom if you need lube or have any questions. You are instructed to catch your entire ejaculate in the sample cup or jar to not miss any sperm or parts of your load for testing. After you shoot, you call on the intercom and a lab tech comes to the door to pick up your jar after you are dressed. Everyone is very professional, quiet, and not joking or asking any questions, just all science, no giggles or smirks or anything personal.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 6:51 pm
by russianboy (imported)
It is very difficult to find girlfriend to castrated guy in Russia. It is more difficult make her pregnant from frosen sperm. But I want castration as soon as possible!
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:05 pm
by Begoneboy (imported)
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Wow! I believe you hit the nail on the head with that one. And it certainly explains why it is that I have far more guy friends in life than gal. Women are way too fickle and moody as you very well pointed out. Perhaps that is just the tip of the iceberg and is definitely why I NEVER wanted to be a female in life. They can be fun as can men but I would go out to a ball game or on a 1000 mile ride on my bike with a guy verses a gal any day of the week. A guy would pull my ass out of a fire while a gal would simply stand there and watch me burn. Go figure how you so aptly drove that nail home. Thanks for that one.
oh there are probably a few women someplace that are harmonious and easy to live with, I just haven't met any of them. A bit of sex is for a few hours, but the rest just keeps going on and on and on and on forever. if there is a God, and the god created heaven and earth, no wonder he made man first. It then became the undoing with the creation of a woman.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:20 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Hey Begoneboy,
I thought I might end up with a ton of angry posts on that idea, glad I didn t. Yes, men and women are different. Try getting a big group of women to live harmoniously in a barracks or similar conditions and the cat fights would be endless as would the emotions and drama. Glad to hear you agree. Like you said, just travel with a person and you ll see real quick if they are harmonious or full of vinegar all the time. Travel really stresses lots of people and its tough to fake what you are 24 hours a day. The real person shows through much faster being together 24 hours a day when traveling.
I love kids and coaching kids, other people s kids lol that go home to their own parents ! To raise a kid right, ideally they need both a dad and mom, especially at young ages when a loving mom is so crucial. Later on in grade school just a dad alone is more do able. But kids deserve a loving set of parents if possible. I know I couldn t make it work, unless as you said, I could find a woman who is more like a man emotionally. Honestly, I d have a tough time living with a man who is as emotional and drama queen as most women are.
I ll leave the challenges of living with women and being married to them to the men who want and enjoy that. They can be the breeders until cloning gets common and produces healthy humans from our own DNA.
Thanks for your post. That s much better than the rants I d get on any mostly female website for saying the truth lol !
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:38 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
paring (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:50 am
Younger this has never crossed my mind, but since the last 4-5 years, I thought about it. After I ended my chem castration, myT level was so low that I had to be on TRT. That didn't help with my sperm count. I quitted TRT almost 5 years ago and started to work on elevating my T level as well as my sperm count. It's going up slowly, at my last blood test my T level was quite normal but my sperm count was still a bit low. I intend to make a sperm deposit as soon as my sperm count will high enough. One of my dreams is to father a child. I can garantie that it will happen but I"ll try. At this point my castration desire is at its peak and this is bugging me a lot., I don't want to get it done too soon and ruin my chance to father a child. Just like Qunuch81, I might have regrets to have lost my testes and I might regret it even morte if lost the chance to father a child. Just like Qunuch81, I have this irresistible desire to be castrated but I'm also conscious that I might sometime regret it.
You can bank and freeze your sperm to join many ejaculations worth of your sperm together to make higher numbers of sperm to use in each insemination attempt to become a father. Infertile or less fertile men can save up their sperm from many ejaculations by freezing and then release a huge number of them all at once by artificial insemination when the woman is most able to be impregnated.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 5:56 am
by paring (imported)
cutnbulls2ox
I know I'm getting old to father and rise a child, this will have to happen soon. So freezing sperm might not be necessary. I'm planning to use a surrogate mother, fresh sperm might be used for IVF. I' more gay than hetero, so I have no intention to live and rise a child with woman but that doesn't mean there won't be any women around.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2018 1:01 pm
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Hey paring,
You are braver than me lol ! But I admire your drive to be a father and the huge expense and effort that you d be taking on to do it in that way. You must have a strong breeder instinct in you to take on all of that ! Kind of makes you wish you had just been carelessly making love and fathered a kid as a young man and attained fatherhood in the easiest and most pleasurable way there is, a hot one night stand and hitting that bulls eye effortlessly !
Good for you paring, too few gay and bi men reproduce and pass on their excellent genetics. Its a big loss to humanity that reproduction has become so entangled with monogamy and marriage to ruin it for so many people, especially for men. Monogamy and marriage sure discourage the men, along with the highly unequal enforcement of child support by men.
I honestly admire any men willing to take on fatherhood. Its a crucial job that responsible men need to man up to !
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:43 am
by paring (imported)
Thanks cutnbulls2ox
I wish I could have fathered a child, when I was younger, in the most normal way with a woman. All my relations with women have been failures. I felt rejected only because of my stupid looking circumcised dick. I quitted dating women to avoid suicide. I did 2 self castration attempts,. at 26-27 y.o., to put an end to my sex life. Since my chem castration (42 till 50 y.o.), I rarely have sex with anyone, perhaps once a year or less. I say that I'm gay because I've had sex more often with men than with women but I don't know what I truly am perhaps asexual would be most appropriate term, anyway that doesn't matter. So I've lived a lonely life as a workaholic but now that I'm retired I need to fill that gap to give sense to my life. If I'm not already castrated it's because of my desire to father a child. Lately this fantasy became a real obsession. I have consulted a transgender psy and at the end she just approved my choices.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:19 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Maybe because Canadians are smarter in not circumcising as many of their newborn boys as us Americans left you feeling like one of the few circumcised cocks growing up. Here in the US nearly all the men in your generation were circumcised as newborns. Your cut dick would be perfectly normal in the US. Plus, women tend to be more wrapped up in romance and spending money than in what men s dicks and bodies look like. A rich old geeezer will attract more women than the most handsome poor man every time.
I think most men are brainwashed as kids to fear being attracted to men and told being gay is the worst thing a man can be. That brainwashing wrecks all the great teen sex guys could all be safely enjoying and benefitting from. Then after leaving school most men figure out just how brainwashed we were as kids and teens. Men try sex with women and then later try sex with men. Man to man sex is custom made for us men. The hassles of sex with women almost disappear in having sex with men. I think most men will eagerly enjoy sex with men or women as long as it is thrilling and he enjoys what he does. The old brainwashing labels are created to stifle male sexuality. You don t see the same rabid anti lesbian propaganda and brainwashing of kids that is always shoveled out against gay males. Our western cultures fear male gay sex because it makes str8 sex so full of problems by comparison. In a free culture, male to male sex would be almost non stop and overwhelmingly popular among males. It would be difficult to get males to work so hard and put up with so much shit if you could enjoy male to male sex openly any time you want. Sex breaks would replace cig and coffee breaks at work lol !
Lots of older men would enjoy your company and sexual abilities, just like you would enjoy theirs. The internet is the great modern day matchmaker for the most unusual or usual tastes. A good man by your side and in bed with you would do wonders for your life and happiness. Look what you can offer another retired man ! Throw off the brainwashing and find a man like yourself who would enjoy a life with a man like you at his side. He s out there, you just have to find him. He doesn t have to be perfect to bring happiness to your life and you to his life.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:04 am
by paring (imported)
Cutnbulls2ox Thanks once more, you're are a wise man.
True, here about 15% of men are circumcised. Women here aren't as used as American women to deal with circumcised penis, so to them I look like a freak. The warmth of a human being next to me is way more important than sex but sex is the key to get close to someone.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:27 pm
by Begoneboy (imported)
paring (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:04 am
Cutnbulls2ox Thanks once more, you're are a wise man.
True, here about 15% of men are circumcised. Women here aren't as used as American women to deal with circumcised penis, so to them I look like a freak. The warmth of a human being next to me is way more important than sex but sex is the key to get close to someone.
Not sure if sex is the key to get close to someone
so much as the lure of it. So many are too afraid of sex to understand how to enjoy it.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:43 pm
by paring (imported)
Begoneboy It's perhaps not the only way but the most common way.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2018 1:31 pm
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
I ve tried trial and error to see what works the best to move from being strangers to sex together to friends in that order. Sometimes people just want a quick one night stand or just long enough to get off. Other people do want companionship as much or more than sex. Blunt honesty seems to work the best man to man. Sometimes it backfires and honest comments freak people out who are used to playing coy and games with prospective sex partners. But more times it surprises people if you are honest and many people respond with honest reactions to my blunt honesty. Those people who enjoy being honest make better lovers and friends than game players anyway. You win some and lose some with honesty. But it cuts thru the bull and gets right to the point. Some people fear its a trick or manipulative. But if you are consistent with being truthful some people will come back to see what you are like.
The sad thing is if you honestly say, " I m not out for sex tonight. I just want some companionship. " Most people will blow you off and look for someone to have sex with. As if that s the only acceptable interaction for 2 strangers to desire or seek.
Sometimes you do end up having sex just to have someone to wrap yourself around for the night and share some companionship. Hey, sex is great ! But sometimes people just want to spend time with someone and a lot of people think that s weird to do without sex as part of it, men especially.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 2:10 am
by paring (imported)
paring (imported) wrote: Fri Jun 22, 2018 12:43 am
Thanks cutnbulls2ox
I wish I could have fathered a child, when I was younger, in the most normal way with a woman. All my relations with women have been failures. I felt rejected only because of my stupid looking circumcised dick. I quitted dating women to avoid suicide. I did 2 self castration attempts,. at 26-27 y.o., to put an end to my sex life. Since my chem castration (42 till 50 y.o.), I rarely have sex with anyone, perhaps once a year or less. I say that I'm gay because I've had sex more often with men than with women but I don't know what I truly am perhaps asexual would be most appropriate term, anyway that doesn't matter. So I've lived a lonely life as a workaholic but now that I'm retired I need to fill that gap to give sense to my life. If I'm not already castrated it's because of my desire to father a child. Lately this fantasy became a real obsession. I have consulted a transgender psy and at the end she just approved my choices.
Yesterday, shortly after I posted this reply here, the same text appeared on my personal Facebook page, as a suggestion to publish, which of coarse I didn't do. The 2 accounts aren't related. Can someone tell me how this is possible ?
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:09 am
by daifu-orchid (imported)
Yes, probably, but you wouldn't like the answer.
A word to the wise: don't post or email anything that you wouldn't want your boss to know.
While there is nothing wrong with it, note that EA has open logins, and the traffic is also open, unencrypted.
The site is also visited regularly by search bots and spiders which do their best to make the content indexed, searchable and therefore public. Again, nothing wrong; it's what they do, or your Google, Bing, Duckduckgo would have nothing to show you.
While I can answer only generally here, the Moderators would be better able to answer specifics of EA.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 10:07 am
by paring (imported)
Thanks daifu-orchid
I can understand that text that we post here be found on google but how was it sent to Facebook page? I had never seen anything like that before.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:29 am
by daifu-orchid (imported)
It's a big topic, and maybe not for here. There are many markers that users leave on their way through the www.
It was probably not too difficult to figure that your account on EA and FB were one and the same user.
Marketers do this every day to target ads,
Spooky? Comfortable with your privacy? Yes, many questions for elsewhere.
Re: Shame and regret...but I’d do it again!
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:45 pm
by Hash (imported)
I have written many times that the struggle you're experiencing and that others are experiencing, the
paring (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:50 am
irresistible desire to be castrated,
is what I have termed the inner feminine desire. You see, when in the embryo stage, all fetuses are female:
https://www.sciencealert.com/watch-we-w ... all-female
https://www.menshealth.com/health/a1951 ... as-a-girl/
"Without hormones like testosterone, you would stay on the path to womanhood. And, sorry to say, your body already started developing by the time this decision was made—which means your lady parts were already starting to form".
Because we all started out essentially as females, I believe that for a number of men, that inner female works rather strongly on our minds, causing this irresistible urge to be castrated and or nullified. Why this "
paring (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 20, 2018 4:50 am
irresistible desire to be castrated
" is stronger in some males like us, is unclear. Perhaps it's a delay in the womb to respond to testosterone, perhaps it's that our minds feminized more in the womb or it may be that some portion of our brain wants us to be female and is urging us to return to that physical state by removing our male parts. I don't know for sure, but I believe it is this internal feminine that pushes some of us with an irresistible compulsion to remove our testicles.