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Paolo wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:11 am I believe I'd have to question the ethics of any professional who would castrate a drunk college boy. Especially one that drunk!

I suspect whatever the truth, *if* the guy was cool with it the elaboration might indicate that 'plausible deniability' instinct... Yet another reason for mainstreaming the community, so just saying 'I wanted to get castrated so I signed up' doesn't have to take courage or be sidestepped around in future conversations.

magusuk89 (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:32 am I suspect whatever the truth, *if* the guy was cool with it the elaboration might indicate that 'plausible deniability' instinct... Yet another reason for mainstreaming the community, so just saying 'I wanted to get castrated so I signed up' doesn't have to take courage or be sidestepped around in future conversations.

Many (a majority?) of the stories in the fiction archive are told from the standpoint of the person castrated. They are of the sort of "what (I want to have) happened to me". They mostly include some sort of "forced" castration. The stories provide plausible deniability for a person desiring castration in that it happened to him unexpectedly or by force. This same general theme was found in Male-to-Female fiction before it became medically (and somewhat socially) accepted. I expect that the fiction themes will begin to change after the WPATH Standards of Care, v.8 is released and voluntary castration gradually becomes much more accepted.

Aw heck. I was developing a story in my mind where a guy got a Mexican gf, one thing led to another and a lady ranchera on their first trip to Mexico forced a castration on him. Now I have to change it in anticipation. Kind of interesting pondering the changes.

One of the things I commented on to Jesus about the paper he wrote about the common themes in the stories is that if the 'involuntary forced' plot theme goes away, I don't know what will replace it...

It seems to me that something like "I wanted to get fixed, so I made an appointment at the clinic after jumping through the SOC8 hoops, showed up and they chopped my balls off" sort of lacks a lot in the way of melodrama...

WheelyCurious

WheelyCurious wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:02 am sort of lacks a lot in the way of melodrama...

WheelyCurious

Wanna bet? Nickel? Dime? I am good for up to a quarter as long as wife doesn't find out.

JesusA wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:05 am Many (a majority?) of the stories in the fiction archive are told from the standpoint of the person castrated. They are of the sort of "what (I want to have) happened to me". They mostly include some sort of "forced" castration. The stories provide plausible deniability for a person desiring castration in that it happened to him unexpectedly or by force. This same general theme was found in Male-to-Female fiction before it became medically (and somewhat socially) accepted. I expect that the fiction themes will begin to change after the WPATH Standards of Care, v.8 is released and voluntary castration gradually becomes much more accepted.

Interesting thing I've noticed since my own castration:

Prior to the procedure, I loved the fiction archive and stories of either forced castration or "voluntary" castration as the result of a gamble (the much preferred option; double-points if it was some game of skill with strip elements.)

However, now that I've been castrated, I don't find the stories sexually exciting anymore. I'm on T so my libido is largely unchanged; it just doesn't "do it" for me anymore. I'm guessing my sexual excitement from the scenario stemmed almost entirely from the desire to be castrated.

Have any of you experienced a similar phenomenon?

WheelyCurious wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 10:02 am One of the things I commented on to Jesus about the paper he wrote about the common themes in the stories is that if the 'involuntary forced' plot theme goes away, I don't know what will replace it...

It seems to me that something like "I wanted to get fixed, so I made an appointment at the clinic after jumping through the SOC8 hoops, showed up and they chopped my balls off" sort of lacks a lot in the way of melodrama...

WheelyCurious

There are a few stories on the Archive where a man's fantasy of being castrated has been discovered and the decision is taken out of his hands ("Busted" is a personal favorite). Oddly enough it keeps a lot of the same tensions because while it's desired, it's still not "voluntary."

Also, you'd be surprised by how erotic a voluntary-castration story can be, though I concede it should probably be done outside of a clinical context, or a highly fictionalized one ("Puppy gets snipped" I find very sexy, but the procedure described is not at all accurate.)

I've written a voluntary story using a procedure derived from the traditional Ottoman method that really gets me going, though obviously that's to personal taste. (I haven't submitted it because I'm shy.)

JesusA wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 7:05 am Many (a majority?) of the stories in the fiction archive are told from the standpoint of the person castrated. They are of the sort of "what (I want to have) happened to me". They mostly include some sort of "forced" castration. The stories provide plausible deniability for a person desiring castration in that it happened to him unexpectedly or by force. This same general theme was found in Male-to-Female fiction before it became medically (and somewhat socially) accepted. I expect that the fiction themes will begin to change after the WPATH Standards of Care, v.8 is released and voluntary castration gradually becomes much more accepted.

I hope that when voluntary castration becomes socially more acceptable, in the fiction archive will become more stories not only type "as I want it to happen to me", but also telling about the subsequent quite happy life of eunuchs of without any special negative connotations.

For some reason it seems to me that, for example, presence at space of astronauts eunuchs will be quite proved because of dangerous radiation...

ToTheQuick (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:56 am Interesting thing I've noticed since my own castration:

Prior to the procedure, I loved the fiction archive and stories of either forced castration or "voluntary" castration as the result of a gamble (the much preferred option; double-points if it was some game of skill with strip elements.)

However, now that I've been castrated, I don't find the stories sexually exciting anymore. I'm on T so my libido is largely unchanged; it just doesn't "do it" for me anymore. I'm guessing my sexual excitement from the scenario stemmed almost entirely from the desire to be castrated.

Have any of you experienced a similar phenomenon?

I agree with opinion:

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ToTheQuick (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 12:56 am However, now that I've been castrated, I do not find the stories sexually exciting anymore.

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However, there are other, deeper literary works in the archive that turn even asexuals like me on .

My motivations for castration were specifically to get on HRT. My testosterone levels were low, around 290 (270-980 was considered normal). At the age of 30 to have a level of 290 was still not low enough to get on HRT, so I became so frustrated I began research into ways to finish my nuts off. I pioneered alcohol injection method (was kicked off this board a few times for even talking about it back then). My nuts shriveled up, and with my medical record of low T, there wasn't much suspicion from the doctors, they snipped out the nuts and replaced them with prosthetics.

My reasons for being castrated were because

Beekeeper (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 12:15 am I love the look and feel of no balls,

no scrotum and the smooth down there look below a hard penis. Not to mention no possibility of impregnating someone. I was already on Androgel and had been for about 10 years and intended to continue because I have fun with my libido and penis. After researching here and finding out that no nuts along with Androgel would not affect my libido I was all on board. Voluntary castration stories turned me on before and still do, especially if the wife wants it as well. Being castrated was the most erotic thing I have ever done and just the thought that I am castrated will turn me on. My wife loves it as well, although when I first mentioned I wanted my balls off she thought I was crazy.

The archive mostly contains "quick fantasies", not necessarily in short text...

I lost a bit of interest, but I was also more interested, now and in the past, in stories written with well-developed characters. I will also select the 50 collection...

attistoC (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:06 pm The archive mostly contains "quick fantasies", not necessarily in short text...

I lost a bit of interest, but I was also more interested, now and in the past, in stories written with well-developed characters. I will also select the 50 collection...

Since I have been modified for a long time... "quick fantasies" are too short to capture attention, but I'm still curious about the motivation (especially in voluntary cases).

Most of all I am interested in the further life of the heroes and adventures, their position in society and mutual relations.

I like long stories with charming characters who overcome difficulties and defeat bad people.

I am particularly attracted to science fiction literature, as well as historical themes.

And it's very good when stories have a happy ending .

Since I've been establish

Valery_V (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 6:51 pm ed for a long time... "quick fantasies" are too short to capture attention, but I'm still curious about the motivation (especially in voluntary cases).

Most of all I am interested in the further life of the heroes and adventures, their position in society and mutual relations.

I like long stories with charming characters who overcome difficulties and defeat bad people.

I am particularly attracted to science fiction literature, as well as historical themes.

And it's very good when stories have a happy ending .

Like me, but I like the psychologizing in the sci-fi genre. And those stories in which revenge is not the motive, but slow, purposeful persuasion... The achievement of voluntariness... Because my journey was like this, like that. (not sci-fi, not kidnapped by aliens me.

attistoC (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:04 pm Like me, but I like the psychologizing in the sci-fi genre. And those stories in which revenge is not the motive, but slow, purposeful persuasion... The achievement of voluntariness... Because my journey was like this, like that. (not sci-fi, not kidnapped by aliens me.

Totally agree with you.

The presence of aliens is not necessary at all (just a trick to display the problems of earthlings).

But it all depends on the desire of the author!

I have some self-reflections from my gelding. I don't know if I should submit it to EA... Or should I blog it here? My English must not be good...and they are not proofread for correctness...

attistoC (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 7:54 pm I have some self-reflections from my gelding. I don't know if I should submit it to EA... Or should I blog it here? My English must not be good...and they are not proofread for correctness...

Self-reflection? This is not a definite thing.

And I don't think it's always useful...

You have made your conscious choice, and it is no longer possible to return everything back.

If you're a writer, you could write an interesting autobiographical story, but ask Bella to publish it as fiction in the EA Library.

Here on the forum discussion is possible, and many share their doubts with everyone.

And also ask your questions. And you are free to choose!

This, I think, is just wonderful!

ToTheQuick (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:04 am I've written a voluntary story using a procedure derived from the traditional Ottoman method that really gets me going, though obviously that's to personal taste. (I haven't submitted it because I'm shy.)

I'd urge you to submit it. There is not a better place than here to give your self-expression wings.

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ToTheQuick (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 16, 2022 1:04 am I've written a voluntary story using a procedure derived from the traditional Ottoman method that really gets me going, though obviously that's to personal ta

Arab Nights (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 30, 2022 12:39 am ste. (I haven't submitted it because I'm shy.)

I'd urge you to submit it. There is not a

better place than here to give your self-expression wings.

Probably ToTheQuick means something else, but I remembered the following:

The Chief Eunuch of the Ottoman Imperial Harem

https://www.ias.edu/ideas/2017/hathaway-chief-eunuch

One rarely finds a eunuch who has, like him, an open forehead, a well-made nose, large, clear eyes, a small mouth, rosy lips, dazzlingly white teeth, a neck of exact proportion without wrinkles, handsome arms and legs, all the rest of his body supple and unconstrained, more fat than thin.

So runs a description of the Chief Harem Eunuch of the Ottoman Empire by the French merchant Jean-Claude Flachat, a frequent visitor to the Ottoman palace during the early 1750s. He was speaking of a man who had been enslaved in his native Ethiopia, transported to Upper Egypt for castration, then sold on Cairo's slave market. He would have been presented to the imperial palace by the Ottoman governor of Egypt or one of Egypt's grandees, and entered the harem as one of several hundred subordinate harem eunuchs. He would have worked his way up the harem eunuch hierarchy over several decades before achieving the ultimate office on the death of his predecessor.

In employing East African eunuchs, the Ottomans were following a venerable tradition. The use of eunuchs as guardians of a ruler's inner sanctum dates to some of the world's earliest empires. Stone friezes from the Neo-Assyrian Empire, which ruled northern Iraq and Syria from 911-612 B.C.E., depict smooth-cheeked young men—eunuchs—attending the heavily bearded emperor during his hunts. In fact, virtually all pre-modern empires in the Eastern Hemisphere, with the notable exceptions of western Europe and Russia, employed eunuchs at their courts.

The great Islamic empires, beginning at least with the Abbasids (750-1258 C.E.), likewise employed eunuchs. East African eunuchs seem to have been particularly popular as harem guardians for reasons that remain unclear. Lascivious African harem eunuchs are a trope in the Thousand and One Nights tales, many of which depict life at the Abbasid court in Baghdad. In actual fact, the harem eunuchs kept the sexuality of the harem residents in check rather than facilitating it, just as their counterparts in the barracks and the ruler's privy chamber kept the sexuality of the male pages-in-training in check.

The Chief Harem Eunuchs of the era directly encouraged trade by serving as conduits for European luxury goods to the women of the harem. El-Hajj Beshir Agha (term 1717- 46), the longest-serving and most powerful Chief Eunuch in Ottoman history, presided over elaborate nighttime garden parties at which luxurious European baubles were conspicuously consumed.

El-Hajj Beshir Agha was, according to European observers, a "vizier-maker," in stark contrast to the Chief Eunuchs of the Köprülü era, who served at the pleasure of the grand viziers from that family. But following his death in 1746, Ottoman grand viziers began to compete with the Chief Eunuch for influence, and they often prevailed.

But the Chief Harem Eunuch's influence extended beyond palace politics, on the one hand, and the holy cities, on the other.

Clearly, the Chief Harem Eunuch was far more than a harem functionary. His activities reinforced the Ottoman sultan's religious and political authority while contributing to Ottoman promotion of Sunni Islam in general and the Hanafi legal rite in particular. In the course of endowing religious and educational institutions, furthermore, he contributed to infrastructural development in the Ottoman capital and in the provinces

Valery_V (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 11:47 pm Self-reflection? This is not a definite thing.

And I don't think it's always useful...

You have made your conscious choice, and it is no longer possible to return everything back.

If you're a writer, you could write an interesting autobiographical story, but ask Bella to publish it as fiction in the EA Library.

Here on the forum discussion is possible, and many share their doubts with everyone.

And also ask your questions. And you are free to choose!

This, I think, is just wonderful!

Nice and clever writing the #44!

Self-reflection is self-control that exists in everyone, stronger, weaker, who is good for what. I've been watching my assumptions since the castration. The most common change mentioned is the loss of the ability to focus. Testosterone level is part of all our life processes, also for women, only the proportions are different. I observe the symptoms of this hormone deficiency. The external observer necessary for psychic changes, who holds a mirror...

I suffered from the effects of low testosterone due to my heart meds. My T levels got as low as 7. I hated the hot flushes brain fog, breast growth, anxiety and low energy, loss of strength and skin softening. My T levels are now back at normal levels 19.5 for the first time since 2015. I had a vasectomy in 2014 and have had lots of bouts of orchidmylytis and have also have cysts on each testicle while cause me pain almost constantly and I'm totally over it. Also since the vasectomy I feel that my balls have nothing to do with my sexual feeling and the pain from them contribute to my Ed when having sex..I'm having counciling about my wish to be castrated to be pain free.( I'm sick of the antibiotics and being told to just take pain killers). My councillor agrees with my rational, And is helping me to formulate a plan to move ahead with my drs approval to get an orchy and scrotum removal. If all goes well I will get the op done through public health. In a nut shell I wish to remain masculine but without the painfull balls.

Reviewed the entire Thread (especially my posts).

Lack of genitals beautiful and even for some people cool, but testosterone is necessary for health (it's good when it's natural and produced by your adrenal glands .

I mean from personal experience if I got my testicles back I would go get them removed and still be on HRT. I enjoy sex afterall lol