Chem-Cast
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Inphx,
If you look at the second post on this thread, by splitdick, it says that the testicles swell for about 2 weeks. However, it does not actually say by how much.
LOL
If you look at the second post on this thread, by splitdick, it says that the testicles swell for about 2 weeks. However, it does not actually say by how much.
LOL
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Inphx,
yes his post did say that. not surprising with swelling. it would appear that this injection is not that unlike being clamped with a burdizzo. sudden trauma stopping the blood supply and causing inflammation. wonder if it is less painful than getting clamped. would assume so.
colin (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2002 5:40 am If you look at the second post on this thread, by splitdick, it says that the testicles swell for about 2 weeks. However, it does not actually say by how much.
yes his post did say that. not surprising with swelling. it would appear that this injection is not that unlike being clamped with a burdizzo. sudden trauma stopping the blood supply and causing inflammation. wonder if it is less painful than getting clamped. would assume so.
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I don't know for sure how it works, but my theory is that the acid simply damages the tissue of the testicle and/or spermatic cord. Any acid would do, but lactic acid is safest because it is natural and already present in the body -- something like battery acid could get into your system and kill you.
I would expect anything that destroys testicle tissue will cause pain, although the people using Chem-Cast on cattle believed it to be painless (or relatively so compared to burdizzos, etc.). It is possible this is true because lactic acid is what the body uses to dull the pain of muscle soreness. So it may have a nerve-deadening effect.
This is all speculation on my part, but seems reasonable.
I would expect anything that destroys testicle tissue will cause pain, although the people using Chem-Cast on cattle believed it to be painless (or relatively so compared to burdizzos, etc.). It is possible this is true because lactic acid is what the body uses to dull the pain of muscle soreness. So it may have a nerve-deadening effect.
This is all speculation on my part, but seems reasonable.
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SplitDick (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2002 7:15 am I don't know for sure how it works, but my theory is that the acid simply damages the tissue of the testicle and/or spermatic cord. Any acid would do, but lactic acid is safest because it is natural and already present in the body -- something like battery acid could get into your system and kill you.
in the patent they say most weak acids would work and mentioned acetic acid (vinegar acid). but preferred lactic acid for reasons you mention. like you i think it just damages the tissue causing the testes to atrophy. lactic acid is produced in the muscle on exertion when metabolism is incomplete. guys have been injecting all sorts of substances into their testicles i am surprised there are no reports of this. zinc (neutersol) appears to be more of sterilant than agent for castration. it sounds like a couple cc's will do yu.
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SplitDick (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2002 7:15 am I don't know for sure how it works, but my theory is that the acid simply damages the tissue of the testicle and/or spermatic cord. Any acid would do, but lactic acid is safest because it is natural and already present in the body -- something like battery acid could get into your system and kill you.
No, any acid will not do. You mentioned battery acid, which is sulfuric acid. Along with such mineral acids as hydrochloric & nitric, this acid is VERY caustic & toxic. If anyone would like to try other acids, try the organic ones, although boric acid, which is used as an eyewash, might work. At least it isn't toxic.
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Here are some sources for DL-lactic acid I've found on the internet. The concentrations seem close to what is used in Chem-Cast, so are presumably suitable. Note that it is fairly corrosive, so should only be used with gloves and eye protection.
These two look most promising as they sell it in small quantities:
http://www.akpetrochem.com/pharmaceutical.htm
http://www.acros.be/ (do a search for "dl-lactic")
Luckily, DL-lactic acid is a common food additive, so is not a chemical that will be seen as suspicious, dangerous, or unusual to order.
These two look most promising as they sell it in small quantities:
http://www.akpetrochem.com/pharmaceutical.htm
http://www.acros.be/ (do a search for "dl-lactic")
Luckily, DL-lactic acid is a common food additive, so is not a chemical that will be seen as suspicious, dangerous, or unusual to order.
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madscientist (imported) wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2002 6:34 am No, any acid will not do. You mentioned battery acid,
the patent mentioned that weak acids would accomplish this as well as weak bases. the acids you have mentioned are not weak acids. the other acid mentioned was acetic acid which would be similar instrength to lactic. acids of pha of 4-5. lactic acid has ready metabolism mechanism.
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I think any acid will accomplish the goal of damage to the testicle, but strong acids would also be dangerous to one's health. That is the only reason a weak acid is mentioned.
Also, I imagine some acids would create byproducts as they neutralize, and depending on the acid some of those would be unhealthy.
Lactic acid is commonly found in mammals' muscles so is therefore the most tolerable by the body, therefore safest for injection.
Also, I imagine some acids would create byproducts as they neutralize, and depending on the acid some of those would be unhealthy.
Lactic acid is commonly found in mammals' muscles so is therefore the most tolerable by the body, therefore safest for injection.
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hi
I do not think that would be good. I am not sure if this has even been heard of, but I would advise on not doing it to find out.
I would as well agree an infection could kill the testicles and you would have to go on a type of medication that can get rid of the infection or even have to have surgury in a hospital possibly even the ER. Trust me it can be quite painful to have an infection of the testicles.
It is hard teeling what kind of damage could be done beyond the intentions of use.
I think it is better to be safe than sorry..
ani_aniket (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:15 pm can i inject 4-5 cc of milk into testicles insted of lactic acid?
I do not think that would be good. I am not sure if this has even been heard of, but I would advise on not doing it to find out.
I would as well agree an infection could kill the testicles and you would have to go on a type of medication that can get rid of the infection or even have to have surgury in a hospital possibly even the ER. Trust me it can be quite painful to have an infection of the testicles.
It is hard teeling what kind of damage could be done beyond the intentions of use.
I think it is better to be safe than sorry..
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hi
That is a very bad idea. The result will probably what you want - destroyed testicles, but the way it happens is not pleasant.
Milk has normally a lot of diferent bacteria living in it. Except of sterile milk (pasteurized at very high temp.), it is not sterile.
You will get some nasty infection for sure. And I don't know how your body will react to milk proteins... You could have some nasty allergic reaction?
ani_aniket (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 19, 2008 3:15 pm can i inject 4-5 cc of milk into testicles insted of lactic acid?
That is a very bad idea. The result will probably what you want - destroyed testicles, but the way it happens is not pleasant.
Milk has normally a lot of diferent bacteria living in it. Except of sterile milk (pasteurized at very high temp.), it is not sterile.
You will get some nasty infection for sure. And I don't know how your body will react to milk proteins... You could have some nasty allergic reaction?
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Re: Chem-Cast
Anyone even remotely contemplating the use of Chem-Cast, or any similar substance that is injected directly into the testicles, needs to ready about Scottie's experiences. After extensive research, he used Chem-Cast on himself. The results were disastrous on a human. They were probably equally painful for the animals it was used on, which is one reason it has been withdrawn from the market.
Scottie wrote a detailed narrative of his experiences for the thread Consequences of Castration (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=46286), where it is posts #23 through 26.
Scottie wrote a detailed narrative of his experiences for the thread Consequences of Castration (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=46286), where it is posts #23 through 26.
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damn it!
whoever put dat idea of acid shot
let me clear i dont mean any advice nor any guidelines
as i m desperate to 'KILL" balls ( fantasy is i might inject sumthing n they will slowly ,,erotically dissolve away)
this afternoon tried injecting acid,,,,,,,,,,i doon know what it was (HCL/H2So4?) toilet/bathroom cleaning grade
I sprinkled small few drops on dust and it all bubbled up ,so diluted it till it was half the shade of yellow of cooking oil( nothing mentioned on the botlle of its strength) then took it in 5 cc syringe ,tied right nut n put it in, (nuts dont hurt much when puncturing with sharp needle) as i pressed
very slowly i felt 'THE EROTIC' warm burning senastion,so in heat of moment hastily i emptied 3 cc ( n as i was doing it needle moved effortlesly into nut)
BUT within a second i felt unberable burning n pain in my nut, I find it difficult to put into words what i went thru for next 40-45 minutes,i lied down ,wriggled n writhed ,slapping my hand n feet against ground
I m up n writing this agaibn now but at that time i was praising the lord n praying to him to help me,no joke,it was demented act(i cant describe initial pain but afterward it was like something ruthlessely moving inside sensitive area of testis like when u r hit again again )
then when it became comparitively bearable n i felt i'd just face the pain n i was not going to die(i felt acid smell in my own breath),i took 3 mouth dissolving painkillers ,n slowly my real self took over gain,i was feeling erotic that acid was dissolving something inside my testis( ?????????)
it's 1 at midnight ,natuarally swelling is there ,pain has much lessened
I'll wait to see what's next
I certainly doon mean to tell entertainging story,wanted to share my reatarded act,( when i spreyed the remain acid of syringe i'd see it was still stron enuff to loosen ahered dust)
whoever put dat idea of acid shot
let me clear i dont mean any advice nor any guidelines
as i m desperate to 'KILL" balls ( fantasy is i might inject sumthing n they will slowly ,,erotically dissolve away)
this afternoon tried injecting acid,,,,,,,,,,i doon know what it was (HCL/H2So4?) toilet/bathroom cleaning grade
I sprinkled small few drops on dust and it all bubbled up ,so diluted it till it was half the shade of yellow of cooking oil( nothing mentioned on the botlle of its strength) then took it in 5 cc syringe ,tied right nut n put it in, (nuts dont hurt much when puncturing with sharp needle) as i pressed
very slowly i felt 'THE EROTIC' warm burning senastion,so in heat of moment hastily i emptied 3 cc ( n as i was doing it needle moved effortlesly into nut)
BUT within a second i felt unberable burning n pain in my nut, I find it difficult to put into words what i went thru for next 40-45 minutes,i lied down ,wriggled n writhed ,slapping my hand n feet against ground
I m up n writing this agaibn now but at that time i was praising the lord n praying to him to help me,no joke,it was demented act(i cant describe initial pain but afterward it was like something ruthlessely moving inside sensitive area of testis like when u r hit again again )
then when it became comparitively bearable n i felt i'd just face the pain n i was not going to die(i felt acid smell in my own breath),i took 3 mouth dissolving painkillers ,n slowly my real self took over gain,i was feeling erotic that acid was dissolving something inside my testis( ?????????)
it's 1 at midnight ,natuarally swelling is there ,pain has much lessened
I'll wait to see what's next
I certainly doon mean to tell entertainging story,wanted to share my reatarded act,( when i spreyed the remain acid of syringe i'd see it was still stron enuff to loosen ahered dust)
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ani_aniket (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 22, 2008 4:17 am damn it!
whoever put dat idea of acid shot
let me clear i dont mean any advice nor any guidelines
as i m desperate to 'KILL" balls ( fantasy is i might inject sumthing n they will slowly ,,erotically dissolve away)
this afternoon tried injecting acid,,,,,,,,,,i doon know what it was (HCL/H2So4?) toilet/bathroom cleaning grade
I sprinkled small few drops on dust and it all bubbled up ,so diluted it till it was half the shade of yellow of cooking oil( nothing mentioned on the botlle of its strength) then took it in 5 cc syringe ,tied right nut n put it in, (nuts dont hurt much when puncturing with sharp needle) as i pressed
very slowly i felt 'THE EROTIC' warm burning senastion,so in heat of moment hastily i emptied 3 cc ( n as i was doing it needle moved effortlesly into nut)
BUT within a second i felt unberable burning n pain in my nut, I find it difficult to put into words what i went thru for next 40-45 minutes,i lied down ,wriggled n writhed ,slapping my hand n feet against ground
I m up n writing this agaibn now but at that time i was praising the lord n praying to him to help me,no joke,it was demented act(i cant describe initial pain but afterward it was like something ruthlessely moving inside sensitive area of testis like when u r hit again again )
then when it became comparitively bearable n i felt i'd just face the pain n i was not going to die(i felt acid smell in my own breath),i took 3 mouth dissolving painkillers ,n slowly my real self took over gain,i was feeling erotic that acid was dissolving something inside my testis( ?????????)
it's 1 at midnight ,natuarally swelling is there ,pain has much lessened
I'll wait to see what's next
I certainly doon mean to tell entertainging story,wanted to share my reatarded act,( when i spreyed the remain acid of syringe i'd see it was still stron enuff to loosen ahered dust)
SEE POST #38 ABOVE. You were warned. What you did was very foolish, dangerous (I could be more harsh in my words, but doubt it would do any good), and could potentially have been life threatening - shit nearly killed Scottie. That you were warned and did not take heed suggests you don't care about what you do to yourself, even if it could cost your life.
Anyone considering this kind of assinine behavior, please read Scottie's story in Consequences of castration. SEE POST 38 ABOVE. I AM NOT KIDDING!
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Re: Chem-Cast
The Red one speaks valuable truth. This is one of the most dangerous things you could undertake. --FLO--
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Now let's think about this for a bit - if you hit a vein and inject something toxic, it can go anywhere in your system and do all sorts of damage. Toilet cleaning chemicals? What happens if that gets into the circulatory system? I use that stuff to eat solidified film chemicals off of machine racks! And it smokes; the fumes are toxic! Good God, man! I can't begin to put words to the danger in that.
Then again, I guess it proves the desperation of some folks to be rid of their balls, or at least the function of them.
Then again, I guess it proves the desperation of some folks to be rid of their balls, or at least the function of them.
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Re: Chem-Cast
hi all again,
if u hav read above posts n particularly of my act, here I am ,well , i m quite fine though right nut is a little sore as yet, ( cant pres hard on it)
i cant give statistics right now but after alcohol shot into both testes ( whiskey since i couldnt get alcohol) i had hormone test, it showed hormone levels,,, just lying on normal range, doc said report was normal (i told him wht i did) i doubt it's decresed
now , i doon hav any idea as such of hormone level right now
anyone? who can say soemthing about my right testicle after the injection? is it functioning?
I cant do much but accept what the fact is, though i think i'll like if it has survived ,,???????
but then feminization fantasy n want of braests is still there!
there is good linl secondtype.com
any other like links???
thnaxs a lot .
if u hav read above posts n particularly of my act, here I am ,well , i m quite fine though right nut is a little sore as yet, ( cant pres hard on it)
i cant give statistics right now but after alcohol shot into both testes ( whiskey since i couldnt get alcohol) i had hormone test, it showed hormone levels,,, just lying on normal range, doc said report was normal (i told him wht i did) i doubt it's decresed
now , i doon hav any idea as such of hormone level right now
anyone? who can say soemthing about my right testicle after the injection? is it functioning?
I cant do much but accept what the fact is, though i think i'll like if it has survived ,,???????
but then feminization fantasy n want of braests is still there!
there is good linl secondtype.com
any other like links???
thnaxs a lot .
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All in all, surgery is the safest route. If you really are set on getting castrated, do it the right way, the safest way. Why inject something into your body that might have consequences down the road? Stay safe!
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Hey everyone. I was the one who originally found out about Chem-Cast. It sounded promising because the veterinary patents claimed it was less painful than other castration methods.
However, I have since known about three guys who have gone ahead and used it, and it is truly a bad idea. As mentioned above one guy almost died.
Now, to be honest the reason it was so dangerous was that he was impatient and injected more than he was supposed to. But that is the danger with self-castration, our eagerness outweighs prudence.
Anyway, the acid will leak out of your testicles and then start burning holes in your scrotum, while causing hemotomas and such.
It is excruciatingly painful, and this is from people who claimed to be generally pain sluts to begin with.
Sorry, but there is no safe or painless self-castration. I've researched this for years.
There is one thing coming up though that sounds promising: immuno-castration. They already do it in Australia for veterinary purposes. One shot causes your own body to shut down testosterone production permanently.
However, I have since known about three guys who have gone ahead and used it, and it is truly a bad idea. As mentioned above one guy almost died.
Now, to be honest the reason it was so dangerous was that he was impatient and injected more than he was supposed to. But that is the danger with self-castration, our eagerness outweighs prudence.
Anyway, the acid will leak out of your testicles and then start burning holes in your scrotum, while causing hemotomas and such.
It is excruciatingly painful, and this is from people who claimed to be generally pain sluts to begin with.
Sorry, but there is no safe or painless self-castration. I've researched this for years.
There is one thing coming up though that sounds promising: immuno-castration. They already do it in Australia for veterinary purposes. One shot causes your own body to shut down testosterone production permanently.
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SplitDik (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 11, 2008 3:47 pm Sorry, but there is no safe or painless self-castration. I've researched this for years.
I beg to differ. My self castration was quick, easy, and mostly pain free. In fact it was so easy to do, it was scary. No injection, no blood, no fuss, no muss. It was over in about 2 minutes and the effects are permanent. My balls are still there, but they are just hunks of dead flesh.
Maybe I was lucky?
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Kangan (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2008 1:54 am I beg to differ. My self castration was quick, easy, and mostly pain free. In fact it was so easy to do, it was scary. No injection, no blood, no fuss, no muss. It was over in about 2 minutes and the effects are permanent. My balls are still there, but they are just hunks of dead flesh.
Maybe I was lucky?
You were one of the few that were lucky. The over whelming number are not as lucky as you. Good number fail and end up doing some major damage. Often will make them end up in the ER. Do it your self castration is risky. I am happy that it worked for you. But encouraging others on how easy it can be with out telling the associated risk is not being fair to them.
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Kangan,
Check me on this, but I believe I read that "atrophied testicles" can lead to or cause cancer. Maybe Kimmel told me, but it's worth checking into. Food for thought.
Check me on this, but I believe I read that "atrophied testicles" can lead to or cause cancer. Maybe Kimmel told me, but it's worth checking into. Food for thought.
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bobbie (imported) wrote: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:21 am You were one of the few that were lucky. The over whelming number are not as lucky as you. Good number fail and end up doing some major damage. Often will make them end up in the ER. Do it your self castration is risky. I am happy that it worked for you. But encouraging others on how easy it can be with out telling the associated risk is not being fair to them.
Bobbie - I am well aware of the risks involved, and I've tried to convey my concerns to others.
*** DIY castration is NOT for everyone. ***
I'm not sure it was the wise or prudent thing for me to do either. As I said, "It was so easy, it was scary." That is the honest truth. It was just too easy - and as it turned out, it worked. However, I am not thrilled about having dead testicles in my scrotum. I wanted them gone, but I didn't want to perform DIY surgery, so I went the route that I did after much research and experimentation.
How sad it is, that I cannot go to my local urologist and ask to have an orchiectomy without embarrassment and/or a big hassle. How sad it is, that folks have to resort to cutters or a questionable out-of-town surgeon with all the risks of travel and infection. How sad it is, that some folks have to take matters into their own hands.