Intellegent Designer?

[sag111 (imported)]

You are so right we and I dont want to shove our thoughts down your throats it never works.What I say is read for your self and study the things you dont understand and one should never take a persons word as gospel but read and come to your own understanding.And dont be led astray by someone elses thoughts and not yours

[thoughtful1998 (imported)]

Evolution is the result of a bottleneck of circumstances. Nature is self-organized: we can consider it like a sort of intelligence. So intelligent-designer is the nickname of evolutionary bottleneck and viceversa. Or so I read.

[Paolo]

This is one of the rare cases where I approve of necro-bumping a long-dead thread.

[AnneK_TG (imported)]

Anyone who believes in Intelligent Design should read about a lawsuit in Pennsylvania, where it was shown that ID was just warmed over religion.

Kitzmiller v. Dover Area School District (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kitzmille ... l_District)

It was also covered on PBS Nova a few years ago.

[seanthomas (imported)]

I don't know much about much, but figure that if God (or whoever) was an engineer he'd be wearing a paper hat and offering you fries with your burger after designing a man's most vulnerable apparatus in such an exposed location.

[MikeStone (imported)]

uncomfortable running: nice idea, but according to the new galloping theory, running is the cause of the outer scrotum.

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... ticular_ex ternalization_and_the_origin_of_the_scrotum

[racerboy (imported)]

Without going into what it all means, there is another place where un-intelligent design is obvious -- the human eye. Sometimes when having your eyes examined you can see a web of dark lines. These are the blood vessels that nourish the retina. They might just as easily and just as effectively have been placed BEHIND the retina where they wouldn't interfere with vision, but, nope, they happen to be in front of the retina. Oh, yes, and there's that blind spot where all the nerves from the eye go back to the brain. (Google "blind spot" if you want to see -- well really not see -- it). Another design flaw that would get an engineer fired.

[GordonGG (imported)]

Yup. I've got all kinds of questions for "God" if and when I get to meet him, she or it.

[racerboy (imported)]

Interesting thought: We human beings use random mutation + selecting those organisms that have characteristics we like all the time. It's called "artificial selection." It sometimes comes up with some pretty strange kludges, but it works. No reason a god couldn't use evolution the same way.

[ambiguous (imported)]

I think originally the "Man bits" would have been in about the same place as most mammals.

Its when we started walking on two legs that they became more exposed.

Originally your nuts would be swinging underneath you rather than getting squished in between your legs all the time.

I am not sure if this theory holds if you had a big dick.

[rogerwpbfl (imported)]

I think originally the "Man bits" would have been in about the same place as most mammals.

Its when we started walking on two legs that they became more exposed.

Originally your nuts would be swinging underneath you rather than getting squished in between your legs all the time.

I am not sure if this theory holds if you had a big dick.

I think they're where they are so we can easily auto fellate when we're without partners.

[AnneK_TG (imported)]

Interesting thought: We human beings use random mutation + selecting those organisms that have characteristics we like all the time. It's called "artificial selection." It sometimes comes up with some pretty strange kludges, but it works. No reason a god couldn't use evolution the same way.

Why should there be a "god". There is already something called natural selection, due to all the random variations that occur naturally. Read that article I Mentioned or maybe watch the Nova episode and you'll see intelligent design for the nonsense it is.

[Paolo]

On the other hand, why should/could there not be God, or "god" as you put it?

Personally, I think that God is real. To me, God makes more sense than "nothing exploded into everything when there was nothing there to set off the explosion that created everything."

Just some food for thought.

Yeeesh, now I'm thinking about my creepy old philosophy professor!

[racerboy (imported)]

Why should there be a "god". There is already something called natural selection, due to all the random variations that occur naturally. Read that article I Mentioned or maybe watch the Nova episode and you'll see intelligent design for the nonsense it is.

As far back as history records, people have looked at the universe and some have come to the conclusion that there must be a mind designing it, others to the conclusion that it's all random chance. The fun fact is that both are working from the same initial data. It reminds me of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:

"The Babel fish is small, yellow, leech-like, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier, but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centres of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.

"Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that something so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the non-existence of God.

"The argument goes something like this: 'I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, 'for proof denies faith, and without faith, I am nothing.' 'But, says Man, the Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.' 'Oh dear,' says God, 'I hadn't thought of that,' and vanishes in a puff of logic.

[AnneK_TG (imported)]

As far back as history records, people have looked at the universe and some have come to the conclusion that there must be a mind designing it, others to the conclusion that it's all random chance.

At one time, there was no explanation other than some being or spirit controlling things. We've only had science to explore things for a few hundred years.

[racerboy (imported)]

At one time, there was no explanation other than some being or spirit controlling things. We've only had science to explore things for a few hundred years.

My point was that this debate is probably as old as mankind and not likely ever to be definitively won or lost.

[catoboros (imported)]

I am a hard atheist, but I have trouble finding an evolutionary explanation for the great usefulness of manboobs as smartphone buffing attachments.

I like the term "spandrel":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spandrel_(biology)

[Supranatural (imported)]

The scrotum

Regardless of whether you are male or female, there has come a point at which you have looked at the male sexual anatomy and asked yourself the obvious question: "What is going on here?" Just look at it—the design is ridiculous. The two testicles are hanging in a little sack called the scrotum, so they are out in the open and completely exposed.

If man is created by an Intelligent Designer, then why in the world would he design human males like this? Why aren't the testicles packaged neatly inside the body like every other important organ?

God has a sense of humour maybe? lol. Maybe God is a eunuch.

Regardless, I'm grateful just to have had the choice to get rid of mine.