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It is possible in fact in some Inter sexed people it happens. Albeit it is rare.

I recall Bi and Beyond that stared an Intersexed person who had a functional

penis and vaginia. This was back in the early 80's . Now to me that would be the ideal body!

Free to be ME posted:

Free to be ME (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 21, 2008 4:09 am Intersexed person who had a functional

penis and vaginia. This was back in the early 80's.

Yes. A slide was shown in my class. It was average size, 6" or little more

BUT there was no slit. She preferred to live as a woman.

Happy Holidaze !

- G'gurl

Never underestimate what miracles future medicine might create. Why they might be able to transplant the entire genital system of a male into a female and himself could impregnate herself as desired.

It would be interesting if someone would write a book or make a movie about such a world. No men, no women, just multi-sexuals. Not non-sexed, not single sexed, but both sexual functions in one body.

However, the design would need to be such that one person could not impregnate or engage in sexual activity with another person, otherwise we're back to the same old interpersonal conflicts that we have now. I suppose all penises would need to be constructed internal so that one could only ever impregnate themselves and never engage in sex by any method with another. Sexual gratification would come only via ones self. And if everyone only loved themselves there could never be jealousy, cheating, or the need for marriage or divorce.

It almost seems that there is so much pain from unfulfilled desires or relationships, or damaged relatiohships, it might almost be worth going without the desire or achievement of love of sexual attraction to another person. Flowers don't love one another and they get by just fine.

Of course to the contrary, in a loveless world, everyone could be sexually engaging with anyone and there would not be any jealousy, marriage, or divorce; an animalistic not humanistic concept.

Based upon my personal experiences with sex and love I would take either concept than the one we have now.

Oh my, what things the mind can conjure up to fantasize about. The mind is the most wondrous playground; but don't always act out those thoughts.

nullorchis (imported) wrote: Mon Dec 22, 2008 10:45 pm It would be interesting if someone would write a book or make a movie about such a world. No men, no women, just multi-sexuals. Not non-sexed, not single sexed, but both sexual functions in one body.

It is already written.

"Left Hand of Darkness" by Ursula Le Guin (1969).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_hand_of_darkness

I'm not sure, that it contains exactly the theme, you try to describe. But looks close enough for me.

fhunter wrote: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:01 pm It is already written.

"Left Hand of Darkness" by Ursula Le Guin (1969).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left_hand_of_darkness

I'm not sure, that it contains exactly the theme, you try to describe. But looks close enough for me.

It sounds interesting. I read mainly mysteries but might give this one a try.

The synopsis indicates that love and jealousy still exist.

I guess the topic of this discussion, modifying a male body in such a way that it contains a vagina without losing the penis (nothing mentioned about testes) just sparked my imagination beyond the scope of what is currently medically possible.

I guess an alternative thread to this thread would be: Creating in a female a Penis, scrotum and testicles without loosing the vagina.

A society of only one type of sexual individual that is both male and female, who has all the body parts needed to create life and give birth with only themselves, not with someone else, thus eliminating the need for love or jealousy or marriage. A world of individuals.

So many of us live as non-sexually interacting individuals anyway, if we were all had both sex parts and we were our own sex partner I suppose we still might envy someone else who was better looking and/or had bigger and better looking sex organs. It's the emotions that get us into a funk, not the actual features of our bodies. We seem to always want what we don't have if we think that another has something better than what we have.

Perhaps the only solution then is to be able to morph our body to have whatever body parts we desire, of any size and shape desired, at will, just as a computer program might do. We could always look exactly the way we wanted, at any time. Hair type and color, eye color, facial features, teeth, head, arms, genitals, height, body shape, male, female, both, neither.

Were that possible the need for BMEZINE and EUNUCH.ORG would not exist.

As far as we know actual body morphing isn't going to be possible, but then when Christ was born no one ever imagined robots motoring around on Mars.

Things can happen that we imagine, and things can happen that we can't imagine.

Would this enable one to penetrate oneself? I suppose you could push your penis into your vagina while it was in a flaccid state, but if you then achieve an erection I would think it would be very uncomfortable, to say the least:(

VeeJay

whilst having both a sausage and a hole would open up worlds of possibilities with regards to what sort of sexual experiences one could have, I find it rather... interesting, to put it mildly, that lots of people seem to focus on the ability to literally "go f*ck oneself". Is there a reason for this?

DocT (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 27, 2008 4:38 pm Priscilla, I think I have the answer. About twenty years ago I picked up a magazine in The Pleasure Chest in LA and read about something called, "The Ultrasexual". It was a surgery where they cut the tissue that held the penis to the pubic bone, then they created a pocket behind the pubic bone so that you could invert the penis into your body. It could be held in place with an erection and something like a vagina was created by the inside out foreskin, inside of you. Supposedly you could have sex and the stimulation against the underside of your penis by someone elses penis would allow you to orgasm. Then your could pull your penis out and still be able to use it to penetrate if you wanted. It must not have really worked or it would have become more popular, don't you think? But it stuck in my mind and I always wondered about it. It could have been just a fictional story, but it seemed plausible to me at the time.

Would this sort of fulfill what you were looking for?

DocT

As a eunuch I have always thought that it's possible to cut the suspensory penis ligaments freeing the penis from the pubic bone, then you could make a mid-line vertical cut through the empty scrotum, which would be used to form two labia. If you have testicles, I would guess that they could be sewn into the separate labias, though I really don't see the need to keep them. Then simply cut the skin at the base of the penis 360 degrees, this would free the penis completely and it could be pulled down to to the anus and sewn in place. The vagina would be a "faux" vagina for the most part, unless there's room between the pubic bone and the penis. (Doc T said they made a pocket behind the pubic bone). I think there would be some room and it might be stretched to accommodate an erect penis. http://www.fotosearch.com/LIF137/gd303011/

Also, don't forget about Tess. She went through TG surgery but kept her testicles, only case I know of. http://jenellerose.com/htmlpostings/mee ... d_soul.htm

Thats the same Tess who's a dentist isn't it?

This seems to give a whole new meaning to the term inbreeding. Think about it, I wonder what the implications of mating with oneself would be genetically?

streetglide (imported) wrote: Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:33 pm This seems to give a whole new meaning to the term inbreeding. Think about it, I wonder what the implications of mating with oneself would be genetically?

At the risk of maybe getting a little too scientific:

Every gene we have concists of two halves, one from the mother one from the father. In both sperm and egg, the body splits each gene back into halves. Which half ends up in the completed sperm or egg is totally random...

In other words, children produced by self-breeding could suffer from the same effects as "traditional" inbreeding would. Because they could get both "bad" halves of a gene, and end up expressing that "bad" trait (for example, hemophilia (unstoppable bleeding), or severe mental impairment/madness. Both of which will NOT manifest if one-half of the gene is "bad" and the other half good... But WILL manifest if both halves are "bad").

It would also, of course, depend on how many errors (ie: mutations) were in the genetic code of the genes you'd pass (back into yourself). Genetic code errors (mutations) are a risk in any breeding!!!

OK -- now off with the lab-coat and geek-classes -- back to the original theme of this thread:

I think it would be really neat to be a "girl with a penis-sized clit". Thats my fantasy!

That is, to have labia, urethra, vagina, ect, as a woman would. But at the top of these female structures, have a clit the size of an average man's penis, which would function as a man's penis would (but no urethra/hole in the middle of it -- because its still a clit -- and the urethra is still down by the vagina).

I think this would be the best of both worlds.

With your erect clit, you could fuck any girl (or guy) just like a man would with his penis.

If you wanted to be fucked by a guy (or another "girl with a penis-sized clit", or a dildo, or ride a Sibian) you could just lay your clit up against your stomach and get penetrated in your vagina like a woman would. You might even get some extra stimulation when your layed-back clit gets rubbed/pushed by someone moving around on top of you.

You'd be able to have multiple-orgasms like many women do, and no "blue balls" to worry about... So you could fuck and/or play-sexually for hours on end if you wanted to.

You'd have no balls (or they would be internal) so you'd not have to worry about them being kicked or sitting on them.

You'd also have no messy cum/ejaculation to worry about (of course that might be a dissapointment to some).

One downside is, I think with a penis-sized clit you wouldn't get much clitoral stimulation from being fucked in the vagina alone!! From what I've read, many women get off mainly from clitoral (rather than purely vaginal) stimulation... SO, to fix this issue, I would also like to add some extra vaginal sensitivity -- maybe a larger and more sensitive G Spot/Prostate in there -- so you could totally get off from only being fucked.

That's my 3 cent's worth...!

Punky,

Yep, same Tess who was/is a dentist.

Punky,

Hash (imported) wrote: Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:33 pm Yep, same Tess who was/is a dentist.

Ah cool. Actually I found her procedure rather interesting, would be what I'm more willing to consider instead of conventional SRS.

Prudence: I'm probably pretty close to being a girl with a penis sized clit I just need a hole made and I'm all set

Keeping one testicle was very common in NYC, throughout the 70s & 80's.

Too many full TS's got depressed and commited suicide, the sudden loss of testosterone is devastating.

Most took drugs to stay sane and to have a sex drive.

Since the drugs were physically addictive, many opted to keep one testicle. Also, the drug made one quite violent, leading to death and/or prison.

However, time and aging masculinizes the face (just like women) and some of them removed the remaining one, with the hope of slowing the aging.

Have a great 2009

- G'gurl