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In my case my tight foreskins turned quickly in a bad phimosis thanks to my dad's attempts to stretch it. Since 8 to 12 my foreskin got worse and worse with my parents frustration untill I was eventually circumcised when I hit the puberty. Foreskin in my country is a symbol of beauty and manhood, and my parents was very disappointed cause my circumcision. I can remember my grand father talk to my dad right after the procedure to comfort him, he told him that when erect nobody could spot the difference. That's why I'm into San Carlos Island saga now!

cutnbulls2ox,

Mine isn't a whole lot removed. I actually have a decent amount of residual foreskin, not enough to cover my head like a real one, but when flaccid (just about always) it covers it enough to prevent any part of my underwear from touching the bear head. More is covered now that I've had a lot of shrinkage, but even before I transitioned I still had more than most guys around my age.

I will say my scar is way better looking than my dads was, his looked like the doctor was really half assing it lol, pretty much like he kept slightly changing his direction as he was cutting.

Speaking of motorcycle crashes, my father has been in many and broken his neck twice, though neither neck break was on a motorcycle. Still walking and almost no nerve issues though he can't turn his head anymore. 2nd neck break actually happened because the first required vertebrae to be fused, and the fused vertebrae acted as an anvil when his head got hit by a falling brick that fell because he just rolled his car over multiple times, had it land on its wheels, roll foreward, hit a building, and make a brick fall off and through the sunroof. Because there was no cushion on the next vertebrae, it caused the one above to shatter. Human terminator, just won't die. Probably will die of blood clots or something related to alcohol though.

I don't want to give the wrong impression: I'm not fond of him to be honest, I just find certain aspects of him fascinating and don't mind talking about him anymore, it's been years. He thinks I'm 26 (I'm nearly 29), he thinks my 33 year old sister is like 35, and he has no idea I ever transitioned.

Prismatic,

It sounds like your terminator dad has 9 lives. It sounds like his circumcision might have been done freehand with a scalpel instead of a device. That might explain the jagged cir scar he has versus devices cutting straighter lines and scars.

It sounds like the core tissues in your penis have shrunk smaller in size and length, but your foreskin isn t shrinking as much, leaving you with more extra foreskin covering your glans head when soft dicked. It sounds like you had more foreskin left when you penis was at its largest sizes too. Its interesting that you had more foreskin left than most of the guys you grew up with. The dr didn t cut as much skin off you as other guys had cut off their cocks. I bet that extra skin was great for jacking off with, almost like you were uncut. Your dr didn t skin you as much as most guy s drs did. And you re still enjoying that extra foreskin today.

No wonder you find your indestructable dad interesting lol !

erikboy (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:54 am I wouldn't agree. It varies person to person. I for example started to retract my foreskin at age 8. It was still quite tight, so it was possible to retract only when soft, but it rolled freely, it wasn't attached to glans at all.

Yes. You are correct. If the male himself retracts his own foreskin it can happen before the ages of 10 to 12.

What I was saying was that a parent or doctor should not attempt

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:41 am to retract a boy's foreskin before the age of 10 to 12.

In most cases the foreskin has been retracted by the boy himself before the age of 10.

The Sparkey49 post stated that the doctor recommended circumcision of his TWO YEAR OLD because the foreskin would not retract. Any doctor stupid enough to think a two year old's foreskin should retract should be disbarred. Yes, if you rip the membrane off a two year old's foreskin, he's going to get an infection. Then, the doctor can clip the coupon attached to the poor kids penis and collect his fee.

It's a giant circle

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2017 9:41 am . American doctors don't know how to

treat boys born with normal penis syndrome. Then, they attempt to retract, cause an infection, and say, "see, told you leaving his normal penis syndrome would lead to an infection". The parent feels huge pressure to sign consent for a male genital mutilation and the poor kid finds himself with a factory made assembly line mutilated cock. But, hey for the 4 years he has to shower in high school (out of the 95 years he could live), he'll feel as if he fits into the crowd of other mutilated boys.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 03, 2017 1:05 pm Prismatic,

It sounds like your terminator dad has 9 lives. It sounds like his circumcision might have been done freehand with a scalpel instead of a device. That might explain the jagged cir scar he has versus devices cutting straighter lines and scars.

It sounds like the core tissues in your penis have shrunk smaller in size and length, but your foreskin isn t shrinking as much, leaving you with more extra foreskin covering your glans head when soft dicked. It sounds like you had more foreskin left when you penis was at its largest sizes too. Its interesting that you had more foreskin left than most of the guys you grew up with. The dr didn t cut as much skin off you as other guys had cut off their cocks. I bet that extra skin was great for jacking off with, almost like you were uncut. Your dr didn t skin you as much as most guy s drs did. And you re still enjoying that extra foreskin today.

No wonder you find your indestructable dad interesting lol !

Wow, perceptive.

I actually didn't use lube of any kind when masturbating as a kid and teen and young adult, at least 95% of the time. I still don't use lube for penile masturbation, though I do that extremely rarely now. I guess I actually feel fortunate that they left more skin on than they could have, and I never realized that fact until I read this thread, I just took it for granted cause it's been like that my whole memory, and I kinda didn't even think of why mine looked different from everyone elses aside from as a passing thought just noticing it briefly. I wish I had the whole foreskin, and I've felt like that just about since I discovered that that's a thing. But I literally am powerless to change that, so I actually don't even mind and will be grateful that I got what I did get to keep.

I do think the foreskin is shrinking too, I just think it's shrinking differently if that makes sense, and the other penile tissues have shrunken more. I know the foreskin has shrunk though, otherwise it would actually be pretty ridiculous looking, because I used to have a pretty fat member and now it is very small and thin, and it actually feels weird to play with and not just because I wish I didn't have one in the first place, which I also can't control. It feels weird in that it feels like when I was 11 or something in regards to its size and how that feels in my hands when I manipulate it with them, rather than just feeling like a smaller but equal penis, if that makes sense. It's changed in some ways that I can't even put my finger on cause the process takes so many years.

My balls also have a similar conundrum. The scrotum hasn't really changed much in a long time to be honest, though it's shrank a lot from its original size, because I used to have huge balls compared to other people with them and every girl or guy I ever got with commented on them. The balls themselves shrank the most proportionally, and the cords and epididymis seem to have shrunken but by a much smaller amount, so they seem the wrong size for my balls, which is not easy to notice but I can feel it if I feel them. It's very interesting though, that all these tissues shrink to different finished sizes, on different time scales. Really interesting stuff and I'm sure I'd understand it better if I knew more about anatomy and what exactly those tissues are composed of, or what not.

It's hard not to find someone like that interesting. To be honest, when I wrote that about my dad to you I hadn't planned on ever contacting him again but now because I feel I cannot hate him if I cannot hate myself, I must reach out to him even though I know logically that that can't end well, simply because I would be a hypocrite in a huge way if I didn't do that, at least as far as I am concerned. You don't have to hold those beliefs yourself but they are mine, and I'm definitely not going to be able to try even talking to him for a very long time, but I do believe I will have to try it to not be a hypocrite, and I'll do it when I'm strong enough for that, and if he dies before then it isn't in my control, and that's not something I could have helped, because it's not my fault if he dies before I am ready to reconcile things with him if he even is capable of that, which I seriously doubt, but I have to try anyway one day if that day ever comes.

Anyway, thanks for talking about foreskins and stuff, it's actually quite interesting and I appreciate you helping me come to realize that I should feel fortunate that I didn't get more of my foreskin removed than I did, cause even if I don't want a body part, I also don't want that body part to be mutilated while I have it on me, but I can't control that so I must choose to live with it and find a way to appreciate it.

I found a bunch of vids on YouTube of a middle eastern Dr. circumcising boys. Its all very religious, the boys are in special clothes, look about 12. The vids usually go on to show the big family party after the circumcision, where the boy often shows his new state and is given money. The Dr, does it right there in his living room on the couch with the boys adult male family holding him down. The Dr, just pulls the foreskin tight, places a clamp above the penis head then uses what looks like an electric hot knife to cut the skin above the clamp off whilst he pulls it tight with his other hand. He is left with the foreskin in his fingers. He opens the clamp, the skin jumps back to expose the penis head. The boy jumps up, and kisses the Dr.'s hand. No blood, no stiches and takes just seconds once he starts cutting.

Prismatic,

Glad I could say something useful and entertaining. Just some good group madturbating as a youth would have shown your ample foreskin as a big advantage over the clear cut exposed dicks that need lube to stroke off smoothly. A big advantage the uncut males or loosely cut males don t seem appreciate in their foreskins. Just jack off with a male with lots of foreskin cut off to see the huge stimulation advantages of having more foreskin, especially for young guys before they can get into sex with females.

Glad to point out your advantages in having more foreskin than guys skinned more than you.

MikeGrant,

Amazing what s on the internet huh ? That sounds like commercials to help persuade boys and their parents to continue circumcisions with modern tools. The gifts and parties and praise are the lures to boys to get cut. What males thought all this up ?

But that cauterizing is likely used to make circumcisions appear to be quick and painless. The videos don t show these guys pains for days after being cut and trying to heal up. Or what they miss the rest of their llives with no foreskins. Without a doubt, almost anything can be sold to people with the right incentives and marketing, like cutting dicks.

Thanks for the info. I always wonder how and why circumcision didn t die out at the same time humans first got smart enough and mastered using fire.

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CastratedTomcat (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:05 pm It's absolute senseless but in the US anybody still mutilate his childs without thinkover the sense and what they are doing.

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If that child is a boy. Somehow needlessly cutting the nether regions of a girl is considered barbaric at best. HER body, HER choice I guess.

What a great point you make Richard Less ! How many women or men chant His body ! His Choice ! His rights ! On behalf of circumcised infant males ? Never in any press coverage. People fighting female circumcisions are portrayed in the press as modern saints and women s right champions. Men who fight against infant circumcisions are treated as perverts and pedophiles or dick obsessed fringe groups, not champions of male rights ! What a comparison of press coverage, medical profession attitudes and the public s perception of male and female circumcisions side by side. Lots of men compare the frenulum of the penis to the female clit as a pleasure source for males. Lots of male circumcisions needlessly carve the entire frenulum completely off the penis after the foreskin is removed ! Why cut off any frenulums ? There s no medical need to carve the extra sensative frenulum off an already foreskin free penis in infant circumcisions, which is commonly done to infants. The frenulum can t harm or cause any penis problems that require its removal. Its to deny male sexual pleasure only !

I had an uncomfortable foreskin and had a circumcision at age 25. A lot of the inner tissue was left, but this tissue is mature. When wrinkled up in a flaccid state it still produced smegma, with the odor now more obvious. When I went for a revision years later because of this, a very unempathetic doctor removed all of the inner membrane! I now have a very unsensitive penis, and wish I still had the old uncomfortable foreskin. Ve ist too shoone oldt und too late shmart.

Interesting thread, like I think I posted elsewhere last year, I was circumcised just a few weeks before I turned 12, shortly after I had started high school in the UK. I had already started to enjoy masturbation and orgasms and clearly remember how great it felt to have a foreskin, especially masturbating in bed thrusting down onto the mattress.

My circumcision was unexpected, after apparently having had some urinary difficulties and I remember dreading the weeks leading up to the operation after I was told I would be getting it done. It was actually sprung on me the day of the operation when my dad produced a letter and explained that today was the day, I genuinely didn't expect it to be that day. The whole procedure was horrendous, the pain was excruciating for the hours after the operation, my penis kept bleeding and nurses put a dry dressing on a wet wound, which resulted in more pain and discomfort. It tooks weeks to heal and worse still, immediately after the operation and for several days afterwards the glans became infected with a white mass which made urinating difficult - cream had to be applied to get rid of the infection.

After a couple of weeks, I went back to school but was extremely conscious about people finding out - luckily nobody ever did (we did not have to undress and hit the showers at school). The operation has left an indelible mark on my psyche, it is the defining 'underlying trauma' or the 'year zero' for subsequent (and current) problems with anxiety, anger, obsessive compulsive disorder and more significantly deep seated insecurities around intimacy and sex with women - linked to lifelong erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation and development of multiple paraphilias around being degraded, humiliation and obviously genital modification.

What a terrible experience for you UKmalesmallpenis. So much for cirs being so simple and healthy for boys to go thru versus grown men. A rotten way to put you through it all around. No wonder it affected you badly. Just when you re starting to enjoy jacking off with a full foreskin to stroke so great with, and it gets chopped off and then also infected. Pain and humiliation being exposed, cut, and your infected penis looking damaged and being handled by strangers as a shy kid to make it worse.

You Brits are usually smarter and stay uncut. What was the cut versus uncut percentage when you eere a kid ? Mostly uncut I m guessing. Not like past Americans cutting any chance they got.

But its improving a lot here in the US. More parents are leaving their sons intact and letting their sons decide for themselves later in life. As it should be. Now there are so many uncut dicks on younger guys that its ok to be cut or uncut in schools today.

You must be among the fewer cut men in the UK ? Any feedback from people on your circ after you got cut and having lived with a circed penis ever since ?

Sorry to hear it affected you so much. Its sure understandable that it would.

cutnbulls, I am happy to talk about my circumcision and how it has affected me as an adult at great length - I am still fixated on it all, particularly the appearance of my 'mutilated' penis, the seemingly permanent erectile dysfunction and premature ejaculation I sadly am afflicted with. I was examining my circ scar earlier, it is quite large and there are ugly bits of skin that look like growths around the scar itself. The frenulum is quite thick and has no sensation whatsoever, the skin of my penis when erect always feels really tight and the circ scar seems pretty large.

When flaccid the head is actually bigger than the shaft, which resembles only a small amount of crumpled skin. The head and glans get really dry and I need a lot of stimulation to get hard - years of masturbating rubbing against bedding and mattresses etc. means that the rare times I have had vaginal intercourse with a woman, I have found it hard to keep it erect.

When I was at school, there was only one other guy who was circumcised and he got teased - thankfully nobody ever found out that I had had it done.

I feel a lot of people feel surprised when they find out I have been circumcised - not many guys at all in the UK who have been cut. British women expect an uncut guy and I think a lot feel cut penises are weird or ugly looking - women over here are particular about size and stamina too.

Any further questions, feel free to ask.

I had a very similar experience. This stuff fuck up my mind forever

Since males of every age are all either circumcised or not circumcised, you d think males would discuss it way more and get a chance to compare cut versus uncut penises to decide which they like best.

Instead, men and boys rarely discuss circumcision and unless bi or gay, most males NEVER get to compare or handle or see orgasms and ejaculations of cut and uncut penises. Its such a taboo to compare and take any close up look and feel other male s penises. The people, male and female, deciding whether to circumcise male penises rarely ever have any experience closely examining or using both cut and uncut penises to even know the many differences between them ! Ignorance in the decision makers ! They don t even know what they are dealing with.

Mostly its just the dumb old excuses to decide to circumcise other male s penises. Religion, tradition, pressure from just plain greedy drs who get paid to cut, or let some underling cut assembly line in hospitals on defenceless infants, medical staff being overbearing and shaming parents who choose to not circumcise. All groundless reasons to circumcise other male s penises without their wanting it.

How many people ever handle and examine cut and uncut penises up close and in detail, before they decide for other males ? How wrong is that ! Ignorance making a lifelong choice for other males !

Some hospitals make parents of new born boys attend a seminar on circumcision. Where the discuss the pros (amazingly it's almost all pros) and cons of the brutal mutilation of their baby's genitals.

Hospitals make money charging for the procedure. Then, they sell the "donated" foreskin to pharmaceutical companies. They can be used to grow skin grafts for burn patients. They can even be used to create anti-wrinkle cream (look it up).

The seminar is mandatory for all parents of boys to attend.

Then, when they get back to the room, their infant has already had his male genital mutilation procedure done.

The hospitals will claim that attendance at the seminar was the parents permission for the mutilation to take place. Never mind that attendance was said to have been mandatory.

Oh and the profit for the hospital? About $350.00 to $500.00 to "give" the boy a circumcision. Then, $1,500.00 per foreskin to sell the "donated" tissue.

Every baby boy is born with a $2,000.00 coupon on his penis and hospitals are eager to clip it and cash it in.

What a dirty trick on both the parents and the boys. Sounds like criminal fraud and theft if any prosecutor would follow the laws and criminally charge the hospitals for crimes like this.

Now parents will need metal chastity cups for infant sizes for their sons to wear as newborns until they get home to protect their $2000 foreskins from mutilation and theft. Keyed dick protectors with only the parents holding the keys and locked on right after the umbilical cords are snipped off at birth.

Interestingly, a saw an article on Mothers Against Circumcision. In the article they talked about creating printed labels that say "No Circumcision". They pre-place the labels on boxes of diapers they bring with them to the hospital. Many hospitals now keep mother and baby in the same room instead of using nurseries.

In addition to the labels on the front of the diaper, when the baby is changed they place two more labels over the tape tabs on the side of the diaper. So, any doctor or nurse will see the labels.

It's not an uncommon occurrence for nurses to come in and take the baby away for a circumcision while the exhausted mother is sleeping. She did just give birth after all and many of them by C-Section.

One of the mothers on that forum couldn't afford the cost of the box of labels and didn't know how to print labels. She didn't own a computer either.

Here's the kick in the ass, she took a sharpie. The same kind of magic marker every kid eventually uses to write on themselves or their playmate with. The mother wrote "No Circumcision" on the baby's tummy with the sharpie. Seriously, they said on the forum that the hospital called Child Protective Services to report child abuse.

So, the hospital would have considered Male Genital Mutilation fine. But protecting a child from such genital mutilation was serious enough to require a report.

Circumcision is a $40,000,000,000.00 industry in the United States. Between the fees to the parent's insurance, the sale of the "donated" skin and the money paid for the one time circumcision kits it's big industry.

Much like tobacco, the circumcision industry is looking for new markets in other countries. As Americans stopped smoking, the tobacco industry started marketing their products in Asia with great success. Even with the billions they've paid in the US in lawsuits, they have more than made up for it in foreign sales.

The circumcision industry is doing the same. First, they are fighting back with industry paid for reports about "newly found" benefits to circumcision. Then, they are aggressively marketing VMMC (voluntary male medical circumcision) in Africa under the dubious claim supported by a study paid for by the company that makes the one time use circumcision device that HIV spread is 50% less likely from female to male during unprotected sex.

Then, they set a goal of 10,000,000 circumcision a year. Of course, they are falling far short of that goal, which gets local governments to pay for massive "public education" and for "Public Service Ads". Look up http://www.prepex.com Seriously, a more evil marketing scheme has never been created.

This video of the actual circumcisions looks like a health risk. All these teens and young men walking around with banded foreskins dying on their dicks as this device works. It looks like just pulling your pants down could dislodge the band on the penis and lead to half dead foreskins hanging on their penises. The infection potential looks high. Plus this device totally wastes all those foreskins by a long death that makes them useless for skin grafts or any other uses. Do they think black foreskins are less marketable than white foreskins ? That is sure a lot of rotting foreskins being wasted.

The whole video looks like a colonial era version of that grinning white woman extoling the virtues of cutting black dicks. Very creepy to have enthusiastic white women heading up black male penis mutilation programs. The appearance of racism and sexism in this program are obvious and blatent.

The horror stories of parents having to struggle to keep their own sons uncut really sounds like more of the fascist " it takes a village to raise children " garbage where the village is actually big brother government and big pharma drug companys and child protection joining up to illegally negate all parental rights. The village gets to make every decision on everyone else s kids regardless of what parents think. If there s money to be made cutting boys dicks, the government won t let parents get in the way of those kickbacks, bribes, and lobbying earnings from anyone making money off stolen foreskins. And who cares about the males dicks in government except to make money off them. .

The long lines of mostly teens and young men waiting to get circumcised reminds me of the Chad Addison and Steve Aldea fiction stories of mass castrations of willing men and teens in the fiction archives. How do they get all these young guys to line up in such big numbers to get circumcised like that ? And then walking around with bands killing their foreskins all around town and at school ? Its straight out of the fiction stories but in real life. Are the local women being convinced to withold sex from men until they get circumcised or what ? All those young horny men lining up to willingly get their dicks cut ? Amazing .

bimale4fun23 (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 16, 2017 1:34 am All the skin is used in a transgender operation and only the balls get disposed. If a foreskin is available, it is used to hood the clit and make the labia minora.

There is a big money market for foreskins as they are sold to burn units for skin transplants. So in essence, somebody is wearing our foreskins on their body.

I heard once that being circumcised meant there wasn't enough skin for reassignment.

UKmalesmallpenis (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 08, 2018 9:22 am Interesting thread, like I think I posted elsewhere last year, I was circumcised just a few weeks before I turned 12, shortly after I had started high school in the UK. I had already started to enjoy masturbation and orgasms and clearly remember how great it felt to have a foreskin, especially masturbating in bed thrusting down onto the mattress.

My circumcision was unexpected, after apparently having had some urinary difficulties and I remember dreading the weeks leading up to the operation after I was told I would be getting it done. It was actually sprung on me the day of the operation when my dad produced a letter and explained that today was the day, I genuinely didn't expect it to be that day. The whole procedure was horrendous, the pain was excruciating for the hours after the operation, my penis kept bleeding and nurses put a dry dressing on a wet wound, which resulted in more pain and discomfort. It tooks weeks to heal and worse still, immediately after the operation and for several days afterwards the glans became infected with a white mass which made urinating difficult - cream had to be applied to get rid of the infection.

After a couple of weeks, I went back to school but was extremely conscious about people finding out - luckily nobody ever did (we did not have to undress and hit the showers at school). The operation has left an indelible mark on my psyche, it is the defining 'underlying trauma' or the 'year zero' for subsequent (and current) problems with anxiety, anger, obsessive compulsive disorder and more significantly deep seated insecurities around intimacy and sex with women - linked to lifelong erectile dysfunction, premature ejaculation and development of multiple paraphilias around being degraded, humiliation and obviously genital modification.

But it all works fine now?

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 12, 2017 7:36 pm Anyone else notice how the younger a man is, or the more recent his circumcision was done, the more skin is being removed past the penis head and cut off way down his penis shaft ?

I notice circumcisions in the USA seem to be c

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 14, 2017 10:52 pm utting off the penis skin way beyo

nd just exposing the glans head of the penis. Now more circumcisions are cutting off skin far below the rim of the penis head and up to half way down the penis shaft toward the scrotum.

That s a lot more skin now being taken off than in most past American circumcisions I ve seen. When I was young, it was unusual to see circumcision scars more than an inch or so below the crown of the penis head. Most circumcisions just cleared the foreskin off the head of the penis only and did not cut off skin farther down the shaft of the penis.

Now young men and boys have lots of cut scars half way down their entire penis shaft. That s a huge difference in the amount of penis skin cut off each penis.

What do you men think and see different in more the recent circumcisions compared to past circumcisions ?

Getting circumcised cut half way to your balls was really rare when I was a boy and a teen. Now that seems common in those ages and in younger men s penises compared to their father s and grandfather s circumcision cut locations on the penis shaft skin!

I thought it was the opposite and they tended to be looser now? I got a very tight cut and have a brown ring halfway up my shaft.

gay2girl (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:38 am I thought it was the opposite and they tended to be looser now? I got a very tight cut and have a brown ring halfway up my shaft.

About 15 years ago they started doing them loose and high. It was a compromise against the argument that so many nerve endings were being mutilated.

Then, pediatricians started recommending kids get recirc'd any time a urinary track infection or other problem happened. There didn't even really need to be a problem, pediatricians would frequently just scare the mother's of three or four year old boys into getting "it done right". How? Using all the BS they use now after the baby is born.

So, now, out of fear they'll be accused of not doing it right, the hospitals are back to taking it tight.