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not gay, but bi?

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 9:17 pm
by kantfeelStuff (imported)
if you follow my story, i have castration fantasies. i just came to terms with that recently and with a lot of help from all of you here at the EA.

now, something just happened about five minutes ago... i was jerking off like normal that is: straight porn while thinking of castration. but something was different this time, i thought of sucking the guy off and i came, hard.

ive always known that i like women, but i never really thought that i would be into men. ive heard that gay people KNOW they are gay, but i am somewhat attracted to men but i never thought in any sexual way, until tonight.

now, after i have cum, ive done some research into being gay or bi and realize that it kind of makes me sick, but it also kind of makes me curious

now, im thinking that this doesnt necessarily mean im bi, but could that be a maybe?

please, any input will help out

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 11:24 pm
by Charis (imported)
Being curious and open to new things does not make a person something. Even taking actions on these thoughts to explore your feelings and to experience the results will not make you bi or gay. A momentary passing fanatasy about gay sex likely has occurred to all people. What you choose to be and do will define who you are.

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 12:26 am
by ramses (imported)
Just remember that just because you fixed a car once , doesn't make you a mechanic or cutting a tree down does not make you a lumberjack. But if you suck one cock, you are forever a cocksucker.... :-)

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 2:28 am
by The Lurker (imported)
Ramses! So true, and funny. LOL.

But let's be sensitive to the guys just figuring it all out. Get them a pillow for their knees!

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:39 am
by _g (imported)
kantfeelStuff (imported) wrote: Thu May 01, 2008 9:17 pm if you follow my story, i have castration fantasies. i just came to terms with that recently and with a lot of help from all of you here at the EA.

now, something just happened about five minutes ago... i was jerking off like normal that is: straight porn while thinking of castration. but something was different this time, i thought of sucking the guy off and i came, hard.

ive always known that i like women, but i never really thought that i would be into men. ive heard that gay people KNOW they are gay, but i am somewhat attracted to men but i never thought in any sexual way, until tonight.

now, after i have cum, ive done some research into being gay or bi and realize that it kind of makes me sick, but it also kind of makes me curious

now, im thinking that this doesnt necessarily mean im bi, but could that be a maybe?

please, any input will help out

Just remember you can't change what you are, but if you don't act on your thoughts you are not BI or Gay. Most people who do take action on all their thoughts end up in jail or dead!

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:32 am
by Free to be ME (imported)
_g (imported) wrote: Fri May 02, 2008 3:39 am Just remember you can't change what you are, but if you don't act on your thoughts you are not BI or Gay. Most people who do take action on all their thoughts end up in jail or dead!

Sorry you are dead wrong on this. You can be Gay or Bi and never act on it it's called being Celibate. Just as you can be hetero and never act on it. As far as sexuality goes you are what you are even if you never have sex in anyway shape or form. As far as acting on ones thoughts if we hold to what you say then we would all be sitting in a room by ourselves. Acting on ones thoughts means taking responsibility for your actions I act on many of my thoughts does this mean I should be in jail or dead? If I never acted on my thoughts and went through life like a good mindless marionette I would never have joined the military and gotten to see the world, never would have gotten to go to collage, never would have gotten married, divorced, found my true life partner, never would have taken a chance at things and would have had life pass me by sitting on the sidelines saying should have, would have, could have.

Taking responsibility for acting on ones thoughts or even thinking them is part of the great experience of being human to not take a chance and act on a thought is a shame. Now if you had said criminal thoughts such as rape murder thievery then yes I agree but your blanket statement is way over board and Draconian in the realm of this person wondering about their sexual being.

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 5:49 am
by Free to be ME (imported)
kantfeelStuff (imported) wrote: Thu May 01, 2008 9:17 pm if you follow my story, i have castration fantasies. i just came to terms with that recently and with a lot of help from all of you here at the EA.

now, something just happened about five minutes ago... i was jerking off like normal that is: straight porn while thinking of castration. but something was different this time, i thought of sucking the guy off and i came, hard. .....

now, after i have cum, ive done some research into being gay or bi and realize that it kind of makes me sick, but it also kind of makes me curious

Why does the thought you had a homo erotic episode and looking into research into bi or gay life make you sick? Is it the idea that a person can have sexual and deep emotional relationships with both birth genders disgust you or that deep sexual and emotional bonds between two people of the same birth gender bother you? Is it that you are sickened that you felt this way in a sexual fantasy session? Could you fell shame that you had a fantasy about this durng masturbation?

There are many people here who are Bi, Gay, Transgendered, and gender neutrel. Do these people make you feel sick in that they have all manner of relationships within thier birth gender and outside it?

A sexual fantasy is just that I don't care who you are at one time or another you are going to dream or fantasize about being with another of the same sex, fantasize about being the opposite gender and having sex and on and on. It's normal!

There is a big difference between reality and mastubation fantasy is....

If 24/7 you are equally sexually and emotionaly attracted to your gender then odds are your gay, if that holds to both genders then most likely you are Bi. But if it is in a masturbation dream then thats all it is a fantasy.
kantfeelStuff (imported) wrote: Thu May 01, 2008 9:17 pm now, im thinking that this doesnt necessarily mean im bi, but could that be a maybe?

Doubtful see above.

please, any input will help out

Basicly get over feeling shame or disgust about a stroke off fantasy take it for what it was an intense fun fantasy.

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:20 am
by kristoff
Excellent thoughts, Free. Thanks.

Kant -

Just remember, you are responsible to yourself first and foremost. Follow your instincts and heart - they are usually not wrong. At your age, exploration is a natural thing - allow it! Ultimately, what others think of you is none of your business - what you think of yourself is valid and most important. Think well, play well, live well...

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 7:48 am
by kantfeelStuff (imported)
ramses (imported) wrote: Fri May 02, 2008 12:26 am Just remember that just because you fixed a car once , doesn't make you a mechanic or cutting a tree down does not make you a lumberjack. But if you suck one cock, you are forever a cocksuck
Free to be ME (imported) wrote: Fri May 02, 2008 5:49 am er.... :-)

not helpful but very funny :)

Why does the thought you had a homo erotic episode and loo
king into research into bi or gay life make you sick?

im not sure, maybe because im a bit scared or even nervous.

naked boys, huge cocks , tight asses make me horny , much more than tits or naked womans

im not one for anal, but i do find men
Free to be ME (imported) wrote: Fri May 02, 2008 5:49 am attractive almost as much as i find women attractive.

There are many people here who are Bi, Gay, Transgendered, and gender neutrel. Do these people make you feel sick in that they have all manner of re
lationships within thier birth gender and outside it?

of course not, its not the fact that other people do it, im fine with that.

it was the thought of ME doing it that made me a bit sick, now that i have had some sleep and i have had time to mull it over it might just be that im questioning myself, or im nervous, or im scared, but definitely im scared of not knowing for sure.

my best friends are very supportive so if i find that i am gay or bi they will still accept me as i am, so im not scared of BEING gay.. i guess im scared of trying new things or something along those lines

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 12:56 am
by Kangan (imported)
Dear Kant...

I'm Bi. Always have been always will be. I don't do anal, but cocksucking is okay with me in either position.😄 Don't worry about your fantasy. I've found that quite an overwhelming majority of guys are bi to some extent.

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 2:23 am
by nonuts (imported)
Let's see counting so far we have one opinion expressing complete homophobic ignorance, and one opinion expressing thinly veiled homophobia. I'll leave it to the readers to distinguish.

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:04 am
by FianceeUvBigGuy (imported)
Yoli here, snackin' as I speak.

It's understandable that one might feel conflicted when one feels a sexual attraction to one's own gender, even if there is no actual activity but. rather, a "fantasy" that creates or enhances arousal.

Though I am speaking as a bisexual female I can easily understand Kantfeel's "dilemma". Admitting, even to one's self, that such an attraction exists can be confusing, frightening, and cause self-doubt, guilt, and so on.

In my case, my first pleasurable sexual experience was with another female..."Ohh, we were in college and had consumed some booze, and, well..."

I was amazed at and delighted with the sight, smell, feel, etc., of my friends body; even the sounds she made but, once the orgasms were past, the demon of doubt crept in. "Am I a...Gasp!...Lesbian? Will I ever be normal? What will my parents say? Oh God! What if she tells someone here on campus?"

Somehow, with her help, I got through all that rather rapidly, as I hope Kant will.

Now, though if given a choice as to what gender to be marooned on a tropical isle with I'd opt for an intact :dong:, I am at ease with my dual sexuality. In fact, I am deeeeeeeeeeeelighted! Numerically, most of my very active sex life consists of female-female activity since my one intact male (with his wife, also a lover of mine,) is stationed elsewhere and my one treasured eunuch lover lives in a far-flung part of the

state.

I have to face it...I am one horny girl, seemingly moreso since I've just squeaked past the Big Three-O. So, if my needs are more easily met by a select little coven of female lovers, fine!...even if geographics make it so.

Kantfeel, I hope you'll come to a peaceful acceptance of whom you are, sexually speaking. Whether you finally act out a male-male scenario or keep it at fantasy level, you owe it to yourself to be "OK with it".

You think YOU have fantasies? Well, be aware that I'm already tripping on the idea of watching you performing your first oral sex as a newly "frocked" eunuch. Of course, I'd prefer I be the lucky recipient, but watching you giving a BJ to another male, maybe even the one who just took your balls off scant minutes before, would be enough to scorch my panties!

See? It's OOOOOKAYYYY!

Best of luck!

Yoli

Just some crazy lady in San Antonio.

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:14 am
by slowone2 (imported)
Hi Yoli

My kind of person for sure. As Remses said: Suck one cock, your a cocksucker for ever. Once I sucked my first cock it was all over but the shouting. Bi or Gay Castrated or not. I don't care what they call us.

Just plain Bill in AZ

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:54 pm
by joanne-f (imported)
I think people get too hung up on labels, especially when it comes to sexuality. If you've had fantasies about sucking a guy off, why don't you try it once and see if you like it, rather than worry about what people are going to label you as? You don't have to put yourself into a box.

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 11:06 pm
by FianceeUvBigGuy (imported)
slowone2 (imported) wrote: Fri May 09, 2008 2:14 am Hi Yoli

My kind of person for sure. As Remses said: Suck one cock, your a cocksucker for ever. Once I sucked my first cock it was all over but the shouting. Bi or Gay Castrated or not. I don't care what they call us.

Just plain Bill in AZ

Slowpoke,:D

I agree, although it might be said of me; "Nibble one >^..^< and you're a >^..^< nibbler for life." Unlike the originator of this thread, however, my first REAL adult sexual experience was not hetero. His sex life to this point seems to have been all-hetero and the fantasy that he mentions remains just that...a fantasy.

For me, after that dorm room lesbian encounter, MY fantasies pretty much centered on seeing, playing with, fellating (See: suck.), and being penetrated by a nice :dong: Now, since I've had a few years (not nearly enough🙄) of experiencing the delights offered by heterosexual AND lesbian fun, often in a bisexual setting, I feel perfectly free to fantasize OR act out re all of the wonderful variations that can be shared by consenting adults. Add to that the special sexual fun and deep friendship that I share with a "real, live," castrated guy and the visual kick (no sex!) sometimes afforded by his two likewise castrated friends when they visit too, and I have pretty much lived, and continue to live, my fondest fantasies.

"Any fantasies left unfulfilled, Yoli?" Well, of course! Especially my desire to witness a voluntary castration and perhaps a punitive one as well (See: Child molester, Rapist, Certain politicians, Terrorists...might add a peepee-ectomy there.) and to "assist" in some way.

I could go into more detail here, but I tend to hijack other EA friends threads as it is, so I'll not bore you with the kinky details.

And now, I bid yieu adieu!

Yoli

Top girl on the totem pole! (One of my bosses coined that.)

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 2:23 pm
by graylayer02 (imported)
Well, kfS, I've been there. I wondered why I didn't want to have sex with my girlfriend...while I was looking at pictures of guys on the Internet. Once I put two and two together, a lot made sense. I became much happier with myself and I finally understood these awkward feelings I was having.

If you like guys or don't like guys, who cares? Be yourself, because you can't be anyone else. If you like guys, fine. If you like girls, fine. If you like both, well, all the more opportunities for you. 8) You're young; you have time to figure this out. You're also in one of the best states of the country (OK, I'm biased, also living in California).

All the best.

Re: not gay, but bi?

Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:05 pm
by emasculateme (imported)
I have wondered about this myself...and in the past year, i've experimented somewhat to see where exactly my orientation is...and what i've come up with is this...i'm heteroflexible...i can enjoy sex with a man (with me as the bottom), but only if it's just sex...i'm not looking for any kind of emotion with a man....and even then...it's mainly if it's at the instruction of a female....i've had sex with between 5-10 men in my life...the times when i've enjoyed it have been when it was either watched or directed by a woman, or when it was with a passable Tgirl...(i know Tgirls aren't 'men' and hope no one is offended by that..but they did have working penises...and that's what i mean)...the times i've done it on my own (only a couple of times) were less than satisfying for me.

Not that you asked or anything! LOL