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I'm not sure how long this website has been in operation, but I think I've read it goes back to the 1990s. And there are a number of people involved with the Archive who, as far as I can tell, have been active in affairs related to those who want orchiectomies, or who have had the surgery, for as long as twenty years. And, when I accessed the Archive earlier this week, I had the thought that it would be interesting to get some sort of idea about whether the Archive has had a constructive effect. Also wondered about the perspective of members, over the last couple of decades, on what the general view, several years after surgery, has been.

I think, after reading through the archive, that there are some individuals who, because of gender dysphoria and similar states, can be considered to have clearly benefited by having orchietomies. If I remember right, the Fraj has observed that he could have avoided years of confusion and misery, if he had had the surgery earlier. And, too, there are those who simply had excessive sex drives or else their personalities were negatively impacted by their testosterone levels, and removal of the gonads had a distinctly positive effect for them.

But, at the same time, I think most people with long experience on the Archive can tell you, that some people want to have orchiectomies for reasons which aren't adequate, and which sometimes aren't even rational. So my question would be, in general, have those who have had orchiectomies over the last twenty years, generally been better off after the surgery or worse off, a few years on? I realize this is a complicated question, and there may be no definitive answer for a lot of people, but it is something which is a salient topic to explore. It is, of course, hard to determine whether somebody would have been better off if he hadn't had the surgery, because it's impossible to know what would have happened to him. Undoubtedly, a lot of people who have had the surgery, and may have had less than ideal results, are nevertheless better off than they would have been without the operation, because they would have spent their lives continually miserable because of their dissatisfaction with their gender characteristics if they hadn't had the orchiectomy. Still, I have to think that most people have made some judgement about whether their own surgery was beneficial, and those around them most likely have formed a general view of whether the person is better off or worse off.

Beyond that, the Archive has provided a place where those who are interested in having the gonads removed, can get information about the surgery, and where they can get advice from those who have gone down the same road before. So, is there any indication that the existence of the Archive, has reduced the incidence of people getting surgeries they really weren't ready for, and also the incidence of surgeries performed by incompetent persons? I don't know what percentage of those who are interested in orchiectomy, actually access the archive, but the number of hits on the website seems quite large.

One thing which seems to be typical about those who have had the surgery, is that even those who have expressed regrets, appear over time to become ambivalent about it--I think both Plix and IE have said they have wondered if they made the right decision in having the surgery, and some, like Krister, had less than ideal experiences during after their operations, and consequently must have regretted, at least, their choice of surgeons or "cutters." After a few years, of course, people become accustomed to the effects of the operations, they find that they have certain advantages or new opportunities, and the negative features of it tend to be more in the background than they might have been earlier.

Anyway, I think it is worthwhile to think about the effect of the Archive on those who fantasize about removal of the testes, those who have had the gonads removed, and those who have used pharmaceuticals to reduce testosterone levels. I don't access the Eunuch Archive much any more, but I learned quite a lot from it, and I think it has probably been the most constructive of those websites connected with the subject of voluntary orchiectomy.

I would say that the Archive has helped me to make my decision for castration and also was very helpful in my choosing the method and the means.

At times, I have had a few regrets, but they pass away quickly. My only true regret is that the EA did not exist some 30-years ago, when I truly needed to be castrated as atonement for my sins.

I should have done it earlier for pain relief. No regrets otherwise. EA at first kind of scared me. I think the sexual fetish aspect that some are into or whatever you want to call it. Anyway, there are a fairly large group of "medical" castrates (Non diy or fetish types) that had been instrumental in educating me in what this is about and taking away the fear of emasculation.

EA also broadened by horizons and through it I've become friends with a wide variety of people from different backgrounds. The whole thing of hormones and how they inflence us has made a lot of changes in my life and attitude to people with different issues.

I am way better off without my testicles. I have now been a eunuch long enough to realize how important it was for me to get castrated. I may have had some initial regrets because I no longer felt very sexual, but now, even with low dose testosterone, I finally feel in control of my life, whereas before, I was out of control. What a blessing that is! So I am glad I was castrated and only wish I had done it earlier.

Put me on the better off list. Castration helped me find my true gender as eunuch. Ended my sexual addiction problems once and for all. I have never had regrets.

well better off for me,

when the chronic pain is gone, things are alot better,

I have only been castrated since December 28, 2007. My sexual addiction has yet to die down completely though it is diminished by about 70%-85%.

Yet I enjoy being a eunuch much more than I anticipated because of the vast improvement in my self esteem and the peace known as "eunuch calm." I would do it again just for the peace. Those who don't like my values can go jump in a lake.

I think castration is way overblown. After all, in terms of irreversibility, it is absolutely no different than a vasectomy--assuming a vasectomy cannot be reversed surgically. This is because one can always replace the effect of one's lost testicles with hormone injections. I castrated myself at home and found it no bigger a deal than pulling a tooth or piercing an ear. (Yawn.)

"Live and let live," I say. Let men be safely castrated for whatever reasons they choose. Some people need to quit playing God with other people's lives and freedom. They need to stop passing judgment. In short, they need to pull their nose out of the crotch of people they don't know.

And let's not be encouraging the DIY job at home, though.

Thanks.

I suffered a chronic infection post a fight when I was 18 almost 19, I had damage occur then it turned into chronic bilateral orchitis.

This has been a huge hardship for myself, it is almost like not having a choice making it non elective.. My testicles atrophied specifically the cells that produce testosterone.

I am on testosterone gel, it has been working well.

I would say if it is elective you suffer less than not having a choice making it non elective., due to the forcefulness of it and you not wanting to have it.

Both I think could suffer if the wrong decision is made, however I have known a few guys around my age who have been happy as well as I am not sure if I should have done it.

Everyone is different depending on the person it could work out positive or negative, however I would say elective would be less traumatic than if you wanted it and knew it was going to happen, rather than the news to be blown to you later. (*This is very hard for guys who like masculinity as well as normal sex drive for a younger male with higer Testosterone levels.)

Either way you may need small doses of testosterone as well as calcium to keep your bone density where it should be or try to. Sometimes depending on why it is done it could be a female dose of hormones. Some guys are happy on low levels of testosterone, others at castrate and some of us at our normal high end levels, for some of us younger guys, just remember not every person is exactly the same.

Just my personal opinion no medical advise intended.

Some wonder what I am doing here.

Let me enlighten you. I am here because I want the end result of Eunuchism to be what this thread represents. I want to see mentally healthy gentlemen who have reasoned this out and are happy with their decision. You are all well qualified in that category.

Without a devil's advocate to cajole the impulsive to examine their motives and to be sure of their decisions one could sink into depression and suicide ideations very quickly after the fact. What we do not need is people blaming the E.A. for their decision if they should come to regret it later.

It is my wish that everyone who wants an elective castration is happy with their decision.

It is also helpful for others who have no choice in the matter for medical reasons to realize that there are some who want this and that this is not the end of their world after it is done.

You all seem to be happy. Congratulations with your new status and your new lives. I wish the best for all who come here.

And you are all my friends and I am grateful for that friendship.

much better off

I have been castrated almost 20 years now

I was fortunate to have a professional do it for me..it was a dvm instead of a md

did a excellent job i must say

my wife and I agree..my castration was the best for both of us..my doctors tell me i am extremely healthy for a 55 year old eunuch..the only thing that is a problem is i am vitamin D deficient...which is almost fixed by my test last week

this is a old thread

it does come up when elective orchiectomy is searched

its 2009 and elective orchiectomy has now become almost impossible to find a doctor to do

i had a list of urologists that i referred people to

i have watched that list get smaller as each year passes and the md;s retire and die

the sad thing is this week the list went to zero

i have called and met doctors trying to find new urologists to no avail

i dont know what those that need help in future will do

I have talked to many that suffer orchialgia..they can get no help anymore except to be put on opiates

I assume all that is left is to suffer.

I am much much better off without my infected orbs. TRT is needed mostly for energy. Other than that I wish I didn't have to slather on the gel or dispense a shot.

My one regret is when the hormones get "wonky" (usually too low) depression sets in really bad. And it is very hard for me to climb out of the depression hole.

I was actually happier hormonally when I was intact and taking Androcur which gave me the low T level and no depression. But having balls that don't hurt...... I'll take that any day.

On a side note yesterday I was talking to a neighbor and his dog came running towards me. I instinctively bent forward and put my hands across my groin (this dog is a leaper). The dogs front paws landed directly in my sac. I suddenly realized that I felt NOTHING. It was a great feeling and I smiled.

Next problem is the empty sac. In this heat it REALLY gums up the works!!

Much better. I wouldn't have them back even if I could.

I'll let you know next month.

We know, A-1.

Seeing as how you already went and reproduced, though...

I have no regrets on being castrated, It was the right thing for me and I would do it again in a heartbeat.

River

Thanks to the EA, I'm still a complete man and a very happy one.

There was a period in my life, I really wanted to be castrated. I saw this feeling growing from my early teens to some years ago, when I found the EA. It was a period in which testicular abuse went far, too far.

Fortunately some 'colleagues' in here had the same questions, and same urges I had. Motivated more then ever I had a first chemical test period which was very, very positive.

As an academic, research drove me too see the disadvantages of castrating a man of 32.

After two new test periods I quit. Now I'm happy. I'm happy I did not damage my health, I'm happy about who and what I am. Since latest chemical test period I did not touch my elastrator again. I just don't want to.

And yes Masturbation is again a part of my life. So what...

A great TX to the EA for this.

I should recommend for everyone that want to be castrated urgently to be patient, really patient. Take a test period on androcur and see what happens.

TX again all of you,

Vesal !

vesal_mas (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:09 pm Thanks to the EA, I'm still a complete man and a very happy one.

There was a period in my life, I really wanted to be castrated. I saw this feeling growing from my early teens to some years ago, when I found the EA. It was a period in which testicular abuse went far, too far.

Fortunately some 'colleagues' in here had the same questions, and same urges I had. Motivated more then ever I had a first chemical test period which was very, very positive.

As an academic, research drove me too see the disadvantages of castrating a man of 32.

After two new test periods I quit. Now I'm happy. I'm happy I did not damage my health, I'm happy about who and what I am. Since latest chemical test period I did not touch my elastrator again. I just don't want to.

And yes Masturbation is again a part of my life. So what...

A great TX to the EA for this.

I should recommend for everyone that want to be castrated urgently to be patient, really patient. Take a test period on androcur and see what happens.

TX again all of you,

Vesal !

You have just posted the best ever post. You are the reason this site works. Keep coming in and posting as you are one of our greatest members.

River

prozac420 (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 14, 2009 12:40 pm I'll let you know next month.

I just set the date this afternoon. August 12th puts an end to 34 years of physical, emotional, and psychological pain. Now I've just gotta finish with the fund raising and I'm all set.

My castration was beyond my control. I actually didn't know it had occurred until 8 days later. Talk about a shock to the system!

Castration was something we did to livestock, it was never something I had thought about or even imagined happening to me. Yet, here we are!

It's been 3 years 4 months and 11 days...not that I'm keeping track or anything. The first year was brutal. Accident, financial crisis, then divorce and even more financial crisis.

Not knowing what was going to happen to me physically was one of my biggest problems. I've come to the conclusion that I'm vain. It's not intentional, but I am. I've always been built well, and I guess I'm proud of it...and I REALLY didn't want to lose that in a short time.

Guess what, with proper HRT I haven't, I'm probably ahead of the game at this point. I'm leaner and stronger than I was a year ago, I know that for certain.

So when it comes down to it, yes I'd rather have my testicles back, but in actuality I can survive just fine without them. The only problem I have with it is other people knowing.

There's this strange stigma attached to being a eunuch. To some it might be a turn on, for me it's something I try desparately to keep secret. Not because it's really a problem, simply because I don't want to be looked at as different. That's probably insecurity on my part, but that's the way I feel.

I'm not a loner in a big city, I'm a country bumpkin in a small community were I know everybody and they know me. I'm seventh generation on the same farm!

So in answer to the original question....physically I'm probably better off, but the mental aspect of having this stupid secret eats at me, so mentally I'm worse off. Does that make any sense?

Thanks to this site, I get to vent and let the stupid secret out...that has helped me incredibly, I want to thank anyone who has listened, read, or given me advice or information! You guys can't imagine how much I've come out of my shell the last year or so! I thank you all.

streetglide (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:21 am My castration was beyond my control. I actually didn't know it had occurred until 8 days later. Talk about a shock to the system!

Castration was something we did to livestock, it was never something I had thought about or even imagined happening to me. Yet, here we are!

It's been 3 years 4 months and 11 days...not that I'm keeping track or anything. The first year was brutal. Accident, financial crisis, then divorce and even more financial crisis.

Not knowing what was going to happen to me physically was one of my biggest problems. I've come to the conclusion that I'm vain. It's not intentional, but I am. I've always been built well, and I guess I'm proud of it...and I REALLY didn't want to lose that in a short time.

Guess what, with proper HRT I haven't, I'm probably ahead of the game at this point. I'm leaner and stronger than I was a year ago, I know that for certain.

So when it comes down to it, yes I'd rather have my testicles back, but in actuality I can survive just fine without them. The only problem I have with it is other people knowing.

There's this strange stigma attached to being a eunuch. To some it might be a turn on, for me it's something I try desparately to keep secret. Not because it's really a problem, simply because I don't want to be looked at as different. That's probably insecurity on my part, but that's the way I feel.

I'm not a loner in a big city, I'm a country bumpkin in a small community were I know everybody and they know me. I'm seventh generation on the same farm!

So in answer to the original question....physically I'm probably better off, but the mental aspect of having this stupid secret eats at me, so mentally I'm worse off. Does that make any sense?

Thanks to this site, I get to vent and let the stupid secret out...that has helped me incredibly, I want to thank anyone who has listened, read, or given me advice or information! You guys can't imagine how much I've come out of my shell the last year or so! I thank you all.

Thank You for the post & sharing

I had wondered how it might be similar and different for guys who do it

1) voluntarily

2) legally required vs incarceration,

3) sudden & unexpected.

Thanks again

Moi The Curious

After suffering for nearly 30 years with relatively undeveloped non functional, and painful testicles, I finally got a medical professional to remove them in 2008.

Mine has been a long journey, and one that was filled with pain , disappointment, and confusion. As a guy who had really small, usually hidden balls, I was quite comfortable with the appearance that I had, and found very few objections from my sexual partners, so that was not a real issue.

I did struggle with the finality of it all, for a while, but the potential of being pain free, won out in that argument. I can now say that I made the totally right decision, and my only regret is the years I spent in pain, when it could so easily have been eliminated.

I know many here have fantasies that revolve around castration , or other de-sexing ideas, and there seems to be a pervasive feeling that simply snipping off the nads, will create "calm", well thats certainly not the case for me.

I do use HRT, but at a fairly low dose, and now find that I have as much or more libido than I did when intact, and still having some natural function.

I am more energetic, and have more stamina, than I have in years. Pain has a way of sapping your strength, that can not truly be seen until the pain is removed.

Am I better off? Hell yes!!! I could not be more pleased with the result. I feel better, perform better, and the fact that I am no longer in pain , all contribute to a vastly improved quality of life.

Unlike others, I am totally open about my status, even with those I deal with at work. No one has showed even the slightest change in the way they interact with me, and I surely am easier to deal with now that I am not grouchy from pain all the time.

As to physical relations, my partner, is quite content with my partial package, and even prefers it . While he does not lord it over me, I think subconsiously he likes being the one with balls in the house. Our situation is very balanced, no submissiveness at all, as a matter of fact , if there is any it is NOT on my part.

I have always been a take charge type person, and that has not changed at all.

Oh, and one other benefit. I seem to be much better able to express my emotions than ever before in this life. I don't do crying jags, but I can get teary if something saddens me, and when I laugh it is with all of my being.

To anyone who suffers pain and needs HRT anyway, pressure the doctors to do the orchiectomies. Your life WILL change, but for the better.

Ray

before castration I felt like I was being kicked in the nuts 4 or 5 times a day, Life is much better today.

River

Ray, I had read your posts before and how much pain you put up with for years. It is really great to hear the pain is gone and you feel good about yourself with no regrets. I can relate to you somewhat, I had a serious degeneration of my hip that was very painful for many years until I finally had surgery to fix it. You are correct, pain really does sap at your strength and energy. I certainly understand the vastly improved quality of life. Thanks for sharing such a positive experience.

Before I was able to get relieved of my testes, I was having so much pain, I was actually contemplating going out in the woods with my .38 and ending it all. fortunately, I found a urologist who did not think it was all in my head. Of course, he does not like castrating men unless cancer was involved. Cancer was NOT involved in my case, just pain that could not be relieved. I am much better without them. It has been four years now and I have enjoyed every minute of it. This Aug will be a year since I had the empty sac removed. Very comfortable. I am on 5gm tube of AndroGel every other day and The Dr is pleased with where my Testoswterone level is. When I was on it daily, I told him I was having the drives of a 15-16 year old and at my age didn't need it. He agreed and made it every other day. So that is where I am at. I am trying to convince him to put me on 2.5 daily since that would make the levels more even. He thinks that the 2.5 is only avbailable in the pump, but I have the info that it also is available in a pack. I see him just beofre going to a family reunion so will let him know and see what he says.