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it does feel like one must walk on egg shells around here... I read post and nearly EVERYTHING seems to be deemed inappropriate, anyhow I will give this a shot, I do believe I am in the right category as this is a eunich related post "THAT JUST DOESNT SEEM TO FIT ANYWHERE ELSE"

I have no interest in castration for myself, however I like submissive geldings. I know of two in the florida area, one of which I am in contact with at the moment and arranging a "playdate." The other I had already arranged a playdate with, an abduction of sorts, and traveled across the state to make that happen. I am NOT discussing the details of sex here, that is not my intent, I am just providing some history so you can understand my concern and reason for the post... So I arrive unexpected for this abduction scene in which I did some significant traveling to make happen, and after I arrive and put forth my efforts to make this playdate materialize, and have this gelding "captive" it occurs to me that he is a meth or crack head. NOT just a pnp party type guy, he was by and far a serious and whacked out meth or crack head. The georgeous $million+ house was a total shambles, he was a total shambles, it was obvious that he was in the last leg of his addiction and that everything has fallen apart... his body was riddled with meth sores and he was lucky to be 80 pounds soaking wet.. it was definetly more than just having wasting from HIV although that could be part of it as he obviously isnt taking care of himself or anything else, but it was total chaos, like walking into a zoo, with drug supplies everywhere and the neglect, severe severe neglect, I am CERTAIN it was the later stages of being a meth or crack head (sorry I dont know how to distinquish the two)

ANYHOW I dont want to sound judgemental, because I am NOT being judgemental, I myself am clean and sober for nearly 22 years, I UNDERSTAND, however, it is not something I was prepared for and not something I ever want to have to deal with again... is this an isolated incident? I know that anyone who is willing to have thier balls cut off has issues, hell we ALL have issues wether we are interested in castration or not, but what I mean is this something that goes with the territory? Is this something I would have to expect in dealing with this interest of mine? Are thier lots of healthy minded geldings and I ran across a snag in my first outing or is this commonplace and something that goes along with the package?

Ohh poor You. The first experience of *anything* aught to be at worst neutral, at bes grat. This i am sure has spoiled us for You - but I certainly hope this was an exception and not the rule

xxx

Although i have my issues, and , well iam a m-f transgendered prson, not exactly 100% normal (read average) i am sane healthy and hopefully, for all that well-balanced and pretty much well adjusted.

i hope Your second experience, if You dare to brave one , is better.

xxxx

charlene

Hopefully a greater amount of understanding and acceptance would assist a castrate become a more well rounded indivdual. No one wants to be or become a drug addict. Addiction is a waste. Sex can be one of the greatest and healthiest of activies. (That and laughter;)) Replacing healthy sexual relations with drug abuse is a sad state for humanity. It is wonderful that you are not at all interested in controlling another through the distribution or withholding of illict substances. Most prostitutes in this country, while at some point enjoyed servicing others, ultimately just service a drug habit.

A person who's sexuality is so different or focused, can be very alluring. However, they likely come with a whole list of problems that "made" them or "keep" them that way. Beauty and sexuality are just one, albeit powerful, forces of the world. And beauty is in the eye of the beholder, not everyone would appreciate a eunuch. And even fewer, after aknowledging an attraction to the castrate, would want to deal with all the "issues" and/or quirks they most certainly have.

Many poeple have a fascintion, and often desire for the altered male, while others assert any man who thinks about or actually removes the testicles is most certainly insane. There are many well adjusted eunuchs. It appears that you have discovered a drug addict with various other health issues.

Congrats on your 22 years of sobriety!

chilli-

rclinftl (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:47 am it does feel like one must walk on egg shells around here... I read post and nearly EVERYTHING seems to be deemed inappropriate, anyhow I will give this a shot, I do believe I am in the right category as this is a eunich related post "THAT JUST DOESNT SEEM TO FIT ANYWHERE ELSE"

The problem lay in the fact that you originally came in here and started posting inappropriately then arrogantly started to tell me how to run things. I ran you out the door. You can stay for now, but do walk on egg shells.

rclinftl (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:47 am ANYHOW I dont want to sound judgemental, because I am NOT being judgemental, I myself am clean and sober for nearly 22 years, I UNDERSTAND, however, it is not something I was prepared for and not something I ever want to have to deal with again... is this an isolated incident? I know that anyone who is willing to have thier balls cut off has issues, hell we ALL have issues wether we are interested in castration or not, but what I mean is this something that goes with the territory? Is this something I would have to expect in dealing with this interest of mine? Are thier lots of healthy minded geldings and I ran across a snag in my first outing or is this commonplace and something that goes along with the package?

It seems just a wee bit presumptuous to be extrapolating to all eunuchs from a single data point. As one who has been cooking for Catholic Community Services' drug and alcohol program for ten years I can testify that you will find meth and crack heads among bankers, lawyers, bartenders, waiters and a whole lot of other professions. (At least at the beginning. Long term meth use does tend to debase character) That being said I will note that the numbers among sex workers is quite high. Often that is the only way to support their habits. And having been on the fringes of the kink community for a lot of years I will note that you will run into a lot of drug use in the online kinky sex scene. Caveat emptor

Transward

Sounds like the "gelding" could have used a good abduction and help getting clean and sober. I hope he gets the help and support you may have received in your struggles with addiction.

rclinftl, usually, the less you say around here, the better. Listen and take their advise. Just keep quiet in the mean time and you will gain far more.

kristoff wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 8:08 am The problem lay in the fact that you originally came in here and started posting inappropriately then arrogantly started to tell me how to run things. I ran you out the door. You can stay for now, but do walk on egg shells.

it wasnt my intention - I posted in the intro/fantasy section my interest and recieved a message from you that "posting classifieds" was inappropriate- it wasnt my intent to post a classified it was my intent to tell everyone why I was here and what I was into - I honestly still dont see the difference - I in no way was trying to solicite anyone - sowwy if it appeared that way...

also in the "why only one pic" thread I created in the tech section I most certainly wasnt trying to tell you how to run the site - I was just sharing my extensive experience on the subject - it is one of my trades by profession - I now see the bigger picture (no pun intended) and the preference of maintaining a guarded/protective atmosphere here over the perks (and unwanted exposure) that such measures would avail - again my apologies if you found it a bit presumptious - glad we can chalk it up to awkward introductions and I'll do my best to walk the straight and narrow until I have a better understanding of the game plan here...

transward (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 9:36 am It seems just a wee bit presumptuous to be extrapolating to all eunuchs from a single data point. As one who has been cooking for Catholic Community Services' drug and alcohol program for ten years I can testify that you will find meth and crack heads among bankers, lawyers, bartenders, waiters and a whole lot of other professions. (At least at the beginning. Long term meth use does tend to debase character) That being said I will note that the numbers among sex workers is quite high. Often that is the only way to support their habits. And having been on the fringes of the kink community for a lot of years I will note that you will run into a lot of drug use in the online kinky sex scene. Caveat emptor

Transward

am quite aware of the "rampant drug use surrounding the kinkier sex scenes" as you suggest, but I also feel like a majority of the membership here wouldnt want to be pingeonholed into a label of kinky sex, say as opposed to an alternative lifestyle, a lifestyle in which is new to me, so why would it be presumptiousness to inquire after explaining my first experience? Its a matter of being informed...

*scrapes off all the eggshells from bottom of boots

I've been posting here for 8 years and have NEVER run afoul of the Red Nun, the Dark Lord or that huge bearded troll, Uncle Fester, oops,. I meant Uncle Flo.

Be polite and accurate in your posts and you should be fine.

rclinftl (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:34 pm am quite aware of the "rampant drug use surrounding the kinkier sex scenes" as you suggest, but I also feel like a majority of the membership here wouldnt want to be pingeonholed into a label of kinky sex, say as opposed to an alternative lifestyle, a lifestyle in which is new to me, so why would it be presumptiousness to inquire after explaining my first experience? Its a matter of being informed...

*scrapes off all the eggshells from bottom of boots

Had your yen been for say, a racial minority sub rather than a eunuch sub, and the encounter had gone exactly as you described, I wonder how you would have been received had you gone to a newsgroup catering to that minority and asked the same question. "Hey, I arranged kinky anonymous sex with one of you guys and he turned out to be a meth head/crack whore. What's with you guys? Are you all meth head/crack whores? And, say, why are you so testy?" I suspect your welcome would not be warm.

Transward

Maybe you should examine your dating skills. If you are attracting tweakers and

crack whores you may want to try a different approach.

transward (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:02 pm Had your yen been for say, a racial minority sub rather than a eunuch sub, and the encounter had gone exactly as you described, I wonder how you would have been received had you gone to a newsgroup catering to that minority and asked the same question. "Hey, I arranged kinky anonymous sex with one of you guys and he turned out to be a meth head/crack whore. What's with you guys? Are you all meth head/crack whores? And, say, why are you so testy?" I suspect your welcome would not be warm.

Transward

well in theory that would be correct, but we both know that is apples and oranges, being black or interracial relations hardly qualifies as kinky sex nor does it hold a unique set of circumstances such as being gelded that qualify it as a foreign lifestyle to most peoples experiences...

if you think about it in all liklihood they would find your comparision post here quite insensitive and racist, actually I am quite certain of it *wink

I on the other hand understood your intentions. I poised my initial querry with tact, maybe its time you all gave me the same benifit of the doubt as well, and stop being so damn thin skinned, if you didnt want others to take an interest in your world and lives you could create a closed community, otherwise maybe its time to be a more gracious host and not so hostile toward those whom actively seek to embrace the community...

*eggshells eggshells eggshells everywhere!

rclinftl (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:25 pm I on the other hand understood your intentions. I poised my initial querry with tact, maybe its time you all gave me the same benifit of the doubt as well, and stop being so damn thin skinned, if you didnt want others to take an interest in your world and lives you could create a closed community, otherwise maybe its time to be a more gracious host and not so hostile toward those whom actively seek to embrace the community...

*eggshells eggshells eggshells everywhere!

Looking for eunuchs for your sexual pleasure is not what I call embracing the community.

Sweetpickle (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 2:24 pm Maybe you should examine your dating skills. If you are attracting tweakers and

crack whores you may want to try a different approach.

for starters I dont know how whore/prostitution got dragged into this discussion, it wasnt the scenerio at all, and actually I indicated quite the reverse, elaborating that his home was worth "$million+" not the living arrangements of most meth or crack whores I suspect...

furthermore I am not attracting anyone -errr DOH! let me rephrase that LOL

it is I whom is attracted to sub geldings, and the best of my knowledge at this point there are a total of TWO that are known here in south florida, in which I actively persued relations with both, meth head isnt something he volunteered during our initial coorespondense...

tugon (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:36 pm Looking for eunuchs for your sexual pleasure is not what I call embracing the community.

that would indicate that I have no considerations of the pleasure of the eunuck, and that just isnt the case...

if a eunuck is sub and actively seeking a guy like me, is it not a two way street ? I think I have made my stance clear that I am not here to exploit anyone, as another member here thankfully recoginized, thus my concern about the drug use and not the mindframe that he was easy prey... I think investigating the lifestyle here for a better understanding is indeed embracing the community, others mileage may vary....

EDIT: I would also like to remind everyone that I did indeed mention that I lead a clean and sober lifestyle ie: recovery, thus drug abuse is a serious concern for me.

At the risk of getting in some hot water, i can appreciate rclinftl's point of view.

Then again i AM a subbie and would remain so even when i no longer have penis and testicles, which will happen one day , i have absolutely now doubt.....

As far as the drug use is concerned, i find that very very hard to deal with, and would have run a mile had i experienced anything like he had! i have not ever seen anyone either use or be in possession of any and it would freak me out !

charlene

tugon (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 7:36 pm Looking for eunuchs for your sexual pleasure is not what I call embracing the community.

I Agree,

I am not sure if its just me but I find you to be a user, you have traded one habit for another and you are trying your best to justify your new found life stile. This is not the site you need to be at, this is not a place for you to troll, I am sure there are plenty of sites that would welcome you with open arms but this is not it. Frankly I find just about everything about you to be revolting.

People come here to be part of a community but I have yet to figure out what you are doing here except looking for your next eunuch boy toy. We are so much more then you are.

River

Riverwind (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 10:57 pm I Agree,

I am not sure if its just me but I find you to be a user, you have traded one habit for another and you are trying your best to justify your new found life stile. This is not the site you need to be at, this is not a place for you to troll, I am sure there are plenty of sites that would welcome you with open arms but this is not it. Frankly I find just about everything about you to be revolting.

People come here to be part of a community but I have yet to figure out what you are doing here except looking for your next eunuch boy toy. We are so much more then you are.

River

His avatar is just a bitoffensive and strongly indictes insecurity on his part. Anyone who points a gun at another immeidately destabilizes a situation, and any chance of trust...forget it. However a high chance of abuse exists to the young man who lets another lord over him with threats of physical harm.

The folks here need community to better understand and enjoy themselves, so to do recovery addicts. I think you too have a long way to go in recovery and this is not the place.

Sex, like play is best enjoyed when you have all your "work done". Good luck rclinft I think you have offended enough folks here!

congrats on 22 years of sobriety.

chilli-

MacTheWolf (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:49 pm I've been posting here for 8 years and have NEVER run afoul of the Red Nun, the Dark Lord or that huge bearded troll, Uncle Fester, oops,. I meant Uncle Flo.

Be polite and accurate in your posts and you should be fine.

Troll, eh? Be careful what bridges you walk over. --FLO--

chilliwilli (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:13 am His avatar is just a bitoffensive and strongly indictes insecurity on his part. Anyone who points a gun at another immeidately destabilizes a situation, and any chance of trust...forget it.

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Geepers, i did not look at the avatar very closely, yes i don't find that very endearing. I agree with the statements about community here, I have felt so welcomed and very very safe, as if amongst friends, and I have only been here a short while ,

xxxx

charlene

p.s. i will now bow out of this thread <shudder>

lol

I am a user? and I am trading addictions? You two seem to be quite judgemental -no - let me rephrase that you two ARE quite judgemental - but you have one thing right you OBVIOUSLY dont know what it is I am doing here - your clueless! So maybe you could save your Dr Phil routine for the next noob who will buy into your BS $.50 psychology show because I most certainly am not going to defend my presence here to your likes - but I will make one observation - your outraged over my avatar on a site that has "FORCED CASTRATION" and "FORCED PENECTOMY" as elective interest? ROTFLMAO!@#! THAT IS RICH!

I'm sorry for redacting your post but there are some points I want to address specifically

rclinftl (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:47 am So I arrive unexpected for this abduction scene

I am not sure how common the abduction fantasy / scene is in the eunuch community. I'm not going to judge it either, but I suspect that it is the exception rather than the rule, as the eunuch community is very diverse.

The fact that you happen to encounter someone who is or wants to be castrated, has an abduction fantasy and a substance abuse issue has more to do with who that person is as an individual than it does with any particular community. The bottom line is that I don't think you can accurately extrapolate anything about other eunuchs based on your experience with this person.

rclinftl (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:47 am it occurs to me that he is a meth or crack head. NOT just a pnp party type guy, he was by and far a serious and whacked out meth or crack head.

From what I have scene, one generally leads directly to the other.

rclinftl (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:47 am The georgeous $million+ house was a total shambles, he was a total shambles, it was obvious that he was in the last leg of his addiction and that everything has fallen apart... his body was riddled with meth sores and he was lucky to be 80 pounds soaking wet.. it was definetly more than just having wasting from HIV although that could be part of it as he obviously isnt taking care of himself or anything else, but it was total chaos, like walking into a zoo, with drug supplies everywhere and the neglect, severe severe neglect, I am CERTAIN it was the later stages of being a meth or crack head (sorry I dont know how to distinquish the two)

And all of that, IS par for the course.

rclinftl (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:47 am ANYHOW I dont want to sound judgemental, because I am NOT being judgemental, I myself am clean and sober for nearly 22 years, I UNDERSTAND, however, it is not something I was prepared for and not something I ever want to have to deal with again...

Unfortunately meth addiction is epidemic, and it is very difficult to avoid bumping into it from time to time. You may be able to improve your odds a bit by placing "drug free no pnp" in your sex add. Also meeting in a neutral location in a public place for an initial interview before the play date begins is a great way of avoiding people you don't want to be involved with. Who knows, it may even save your life.

rclinftl (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:47 am is this an isolated incident? I know that anyone who is willing to have thier balls cut off has issues, hell we ALL have issues wether we are interested in castration or not, but what I mean is this something that goes with the territory? Is this something I would have to expect in dealing with this interest of mine? Are thier lots of healthy minded geldings and I ran across a snag in my first outing or is this commonplace and something that goes along with the package?

I think it is a unique experience rather than an experience typical of eunuchs Sorry I just had to.

I think it needs to be said that there is a huge difference between someone who is willing to have their balls cut off, and the vast majority of eunuchs who desire castration for personal reasons.

The person who is willing to loose their balls for someone else's gratification really does have issues, and to be perfectly honest I think you increased your odds of meeting that person when you set up your play date.

Of course there are healthy SM/BD fantasies, and even castration play can be fine, but there are people for whom the fantasy is driving their reality, and when you add in the pnp factor you are increasing the odds of meeting someone with serious issues. If you want to avoid such people then you will need to screen your play dates more thoroughly.

If you want to meet healthy happy eunuchs, there are plenty of them here. Just be respectful.

jemagirl - thanX for your post and keen observations...

like I had said there does seem to be limited pool of eunuchs - so yeah I would have to agree that I did jump the gun a bit and it was of my doing - no denying that - and it did startle me - so that is why I started this thread for some feedback - yours was quite constructive and insightful....

lol

rclinftl (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:26 am I am a user? and I am trading addictions? You two seem to be quite judgemental -no - let me rephrase that you two ARE quite judgemental - but you have one thing right you OBVIOUSLY dont know what it is I am doing here - your clueless! So maybe you could save your Dr Phil routine for the next noob who will buy into your BS $.50 psychology show because I most certainly am not going to defend my presence here to your likes - but I will make one observation - your outraged over my avatar on a site that has "FORCED CASTRATION" and "FORCED PENECTOMY" as elective interest? ROTFLMAO!@#! THAT IS RICH!

In my opinion you ought to show a little more respect to the community you are hoping to learn something about. Otherwise why even bother to come here?