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A New Introduction
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:58 pm
by intersexed (imported)
I was here under a different name a few years ago but lost the login information.
My story is this:
I was born intersexed, raised as male. At puberty, I began to feminize (breast development, body shape). By 13, I was as well-endowed as most of the girls in my grade.
I had my breasts removed at 14.
I masculinized later in puberty so I look more masculine now. However, somewhere in my mid-20s, my body stopped producing testosterone. My endo at the time suggested that I go on T shots. I didn't want to become more masculine as I felt 'in-between'.
I went a few years without hormones, then about 2 1/2 years ago, I went on estrogen to see what it was like. I was on it for 2 1/2 years and recently had to go off due to financial problems.
I don't identify as female. I don't identify as male. Just somewhere in-between. I live as male because I need to work in order to pay bills and living as masculine is easiest. I'd make a terrible-looking female.
But I enjoyed living as a male while on estrogen. Sure, it changed my body shape a bit and my face slightly. But I did not react negatively to it at all. In fact, I think it helped me gain a bit of understanding about women. I'm better able to sympathize than I was before.
(Though, having never lived as female or menstruated..there's obviously a lot I don't 'get' about femaleness.)
I'm considering going on the T shots just to see how they make me feel. I don't want to masculinize too much because I like being somewhere in the middle.
Anyway, thanks for reading.
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:31 pm
by A-1 (imported)
Welcome to the Zoo! Just don't forget, you still belong in the PRIMATE section, and that is exactly where you are.

Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:21 am
by bobbie (imported)
intersexed (imported) wrote: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:58 pm
I was here under a different name a few years ago but lost the login information.
My story is this:
I was born intersexed, raised as male. At puberty, I began to feminize (breast development, body shape). By 13, I was as well-endowed as most of the girls in my grade.
I had my breasts removed at 14.
I masculinized later in puberty so I look more masculine now. However, somewhere in my mid-20s, my body stopped producing testosterone. My endo at the time suggested that I go on T shots. I didn't want to become more masculine as I felt 'in-between'.
I went a few years without hormones, then about 2 1/2 years ago, I went on estrogen to see what it was like. I was on it for 2 1/2 years and recently had to go off due to financial problems.
I don't identify as female. I don't identify as male. Just somewhere in-between. I live as male because I need to work in order to pay bills and living as masculine is easiest. I'd make a terrible-looking female.
But I enjoyed living as a male while on estrogen. Sure, it changed my body shape a bit and my face slightly. But I did not react negatively to it at all. In fact, I think it helped me gain a bit of understanding about women. I'm better able to sympathize than I was before.
(Though, having never lived as female or menstruated..there's obviously a lot I don't 'get' about femaleness.)
I'm considering going on the T shots just to see how they make me feel. I don't want to masculinize too much because I like being somewhere in the middle.
Anyway, thanks for reading.
Being inter-sex is a very hard place to be, I would think. You were forced to live as a boy. That may not be what is in your mind. Being of female hormones changed you body and mind. You found that was not fully what you want. Trying male hormones may bring some happiness.
I do not know how a inter-sexed person mind is wired. You may just be none sexual. The right road for you. Do not know if you have talked to a sex therapist. It may be a wise thing to do. Help sort out what you are feeling.
Greetings to the archive. Read the posts. Ask questions. Enjoy the site
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:03 am
by tugon (imported)
Welcome, glad you are here and thanks for sharing. I can relate to being in the middle. Almost 13 years as a eunuch and never having used HRT I find males and females both quite interesting. Physically I was born male but I doubt if my brain ever was.
I look forward to more of your posts.
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:26 am
by Solaris (imported)
Intersexed,
Welcome back, and may you always be blessed, guided, and protected.
There are many of us here who will be able to use our own experience, to relate, in our own way, to your life situation.
Solaris
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:31 pm
by devi (imported)
Welcome aboard!!! Whereas my story is nowhere as extreme as yours is (-don't know how you made it through) I did consistently wear pocketed T-shirts during my teens and twenties for very a good reason. And with competitive sports forget it! Oh well. Anyway welcome.
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:01 pm
by punkypink (imported)
you dont have to be male, you dont have to be female, if you dont feel like it. you just gotta be you, and thats what counts. =)
so, a warm welcome back to you

Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:44 pm
by nullorchis (imported)
Have you researched/communicated with androgenous persons.?
Look up "androgenous" in Wikipedia.
You probably know exactly where you want to be on the male/female sliding scale, physically, mentally, emotionally, and fashionwise.
Because society forces certain expectations upon us simply because of the body composition we were given at birth, we are forced into a personal quandry.
If you lived alone on an island, and had access to free medication and surgical procedures and there was no one to see or judge you, who would you be, how would you act, dress.
If you don't know, then do some introspective analysis.
If it doesn't matter how you look or dress on the island, then why should it matter here.
If you do know how you would look, act, dress, etc . on that lonely island, then what is holding you back from living like that now? Judgement and opinion of others? If that's the problem then you have not an identity crisis, you have an acceptance crisis. If you just have to live your life so that others will accept you then you need to accept this and move on. If however you crave and need to live your life so that YOU accept you, then you need to be insensitive to what others think of you....a not so easy thing to do, but do-able; maybe not on your own, you may need support of others who have been through the same debacle as you are experiencing.
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:40 am
by houndstooth (imported)
If somewhere i the middle's where you want to be, then why do much of anything. The caveat is that you should do what's right for you and not for someone else.
I have tried to live my life up to other people's expectations -- parents, family, religion -- when I was younger and I was miserable. Really, really miserable. I admired the advantages that girls had, from being daddy's princess to being able to wear shorts or pants or skirts and no one caring one way or another, to the way girls simply seemed to communicate better with one another than boys did. So I remained "neutral" through my teens and into young adulthood, even though I began having sex with guys my age from when I was 13 years old. Gay wasn't cool in the early/mid 1970s.
Which is why I admire younger people today who (for the most part) do get a chance to express themselves more openly (for the most part, but not everywhere).
Take you time, look inside yourself and decide for yourself what's right for you. No matter what you decide or if you change your personal choices later, you're always welcome here by the majority of folks. But then you already knew that, I'm sure.
All my best wishes go out to you on your journey of discovery.
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:50 pm
by punkypink (imported)
*turns the volume up to 100 and pops Public Enemy into the stereo*
FIGHT THA POWER!
WE GOTTA FIGHT THA POWERS THAT BE!
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:28 pm
by intersexed (imported)
Thanks so much for the warm welcome, everyone!
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:33 pm
by intersexed (imported)
nullorchis (imported) wrote: Fri Oct 23, 2009 10:44 pm
Have you researched/communicated with androgenous persons.?
Look up "androgenous" in Wikipedia.
You probably know exactly where you want to be on the male/female sliding scale, physically, mentally, emotionally, and fashionwise.
Because society forces certain expectations upon us simply because of the body composition we were given at birth, we are forced into a personal quandry.
If you lived alone on an island, and had access to free medication and surgical procedures and there was no one to see or judge you, who would you be, how would you act, dress.
If you don't know, then do some introspective analysis.
If it doesn't matter how you look or dress on the island, then why should it matter here.
If you do know how you would look, act, dress, etc . on that lonely island, then what is holding you back from living like that now? Judgement and opinion of others? If that's the problem then you have not an identity crisis, you have an acceptance crisis. If you just have to live your life so that others will accept you then you need to accept this and move on. If however you crave and need to live your life so that YOU accept you, then you need to be insensitive to what others think of you....a not so easy thing to do, but do-able; maybe not on your own, you may need support of others who have been through the same debacle as you are experiencing.
Yes, actually, I've had an interest in androgyny for a long time. Unfortunately, when I masculinized, I became a little too masculine to really look androgynous. I'm bald and have facial/body hair. These tend to mark me as male in almost all instances, even after the 2 1/2 years on estrogen.
I could go for body hair removal and wear some sort of a wig, but that's expensive. Laser hair removal is not really something I can afford presently and I can't imagine having to wear a wig or hat or scarf anytime I leave home.
I suppose I'm resigned to the fact that my androgyny is expressed by my personality and those who come to know me well will definitely pick up on it.
Thanks for your support!
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:59 am
by devi (imported)
Being the oldest sibling of the family I was absolutely never to be at all allowed to in any manner shape or form to be at all feminine nor even for many years to associate with girls. I was unable to compete with the boys although from time to time when picked on I did connect with a nasty hook or combination that laid them flat. They really did. One thing I do have is wide shoulders (along with a narrow waist). Anyway I was pretty much known through out my school life as a loner even though in real life I'm actually very sociable. Being that I am even chromosomally female I figure that I have every right to be female now. And so on the web I am generally female.
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:58 pm
by getingwats (imported)
Hi I'm new here.
My name is Mike. I recently join this forum. I think there's a lot of interesting topics and discussions happening on this forum and wanted to check it out and give and get some great advice on different issue happening all over the world.
Thanks.
Re: A New Introduction
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:16 pm
by Elizabeth (imported)
Hi and welcome back. I always enjoy the perspective of intersexed people, as I consider transsexuality to actually be an intersexed condition. Not to beat a dead horse here, but I have heard many intersexed people over the years say the same things as you. They are cool with being somewhere inbetween, but society with it's bi-gendered approach forces one to choose a gender, regardless of how they feel. Again, I look forward to your insights and posts.
Elizabeth