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Sorry this has probably been on here before. I was a bit hurt yesturday when someone I didnt know in a group said I was no loger a man and he ment it and was realy negative towards me. I stood up for us all and said I am among the elite group (then through my pint at him not realy) So ok may be here is correct my nuts are gone which iam still very happy about but I have 3 children, a dick, like sex and feel and look the same apart from a slightly smaller bulg in the trousers.

So officialy what am I apart from special and amongst freinds.

Thanks

It's simple. If you identify as a man, if you instinctively feel like a man, then you're a man, fuck what every other moron says. We're not defined by what's between our legs. Only what's between the ears matter.

I agree..labels are just that. I've been on Testosterone for 4+ years due to hypogonadism. Now my testicles are a lot smaller and if I stopped taking T, then I'd crash and burn as my shrunken fellows wouldn't be functioning. Am I Eunuch then? I have balls but they aren't working...

You are what YOU say you are and what you FEEL you are.

I label myself a eunuch. I respect the labels others choose for themselves. I do not label anyone because I do not feel what they feel.

I to tell people I am a eunuch as that is what i am and have no problem people knowing but I also see myself as a man.

I have read that in India they have created a "eunuch" gender entry on passports. India, and several other countries, are very open to a third sex. I think that we should all be open to whatever gender identity the individual has. The only opinion on your gender that matters in the end, is your own opinion.

I consider myself as a natal male but no longer a man. As I have no testicles or functioning male genitalia I instinctively identify myself a a Eunuch.

A Eunuch is how I am and i have no problem with that label. Those that know of my condition have no problem with my Eunuch status. I may have in the near future to amend my status to transgender because of my injestion of Estrogen which has given me hips and breasts which are not easily concealed. I started it for bone health and like the effects of it mentally and on my body that I am now on full dose. I will still think of mysel as an altered Eunuch presenting as a woman. I have my beard removed, my eyebrows shaped and this morning I had my ears pierced. I have no problem with any Eunuch who considers himself a man. It's what is between your ears rather than what is not between your legs that sets your gender.

I think that this is simply an issue of semantics. A eunuch is a castrated man. So, yes, a eunuch is still a man. The fact that he doesn't have testicles classifies him as being a eunuch, but still a man. Maybe the question should be, as a eunuch do you still consider yourself to be a man and why?

I think of myself as a eunuch. A former man, but still a male.

Thats how I see my self and have no problem telling people so

By definition a eunuch is a castrated male/man. To that end, a eunuch is a man, albeit a neutered one. The definition of male is as much related to the other physical characteristics as it is to whether you have balls or not. Is a man who has a penectomy no longer male ? What about a nullo? If they still present as male to the world, how is anyone to know what parts they may be missing below the belt?

For me I am quite comfortable with being a eunuch. I am a man without balls, therefore a eunuch. I choose to use supplemental testosterone, to retain strength and sexual function, but I am still a eunuch.

Almost every person I know is aware of my status, and I have seen no change in my interactions with people who know. It is afterall not really any concern, and its not really all that visible( unless you are naked) so it is a non-issue.

So to sum up for the OP, a eunuch is a neutered man.

Raymar

Wolf-Pup (imported) wrote: Tue Feb 14, 2012 9:12 pm I agree..labels are just that. I've been on Testosterone for 4+ years due to hypogonadism. Now my testicles are a lot smaller and if I stopped taking T, then I'd crash and burn as my shrunken fellows wouldn't be functioning. Am I Eunuch then? I have balls but they aren't working...

You are what YOU say you are and what you FEEL you are.

While I agree intellectually that it's what's between the ears that counts rather than what's between the legs in determining gender, still, if a "woman" comes into the ladies' room wearing jeans and a teeshirt, obviously having facial hair, a deep voice and no boobs, and "she" stands in a stall with the stall door half open to pee, I think I'd go find another restroom regardless of what "she" feels "she" is. Maybe just my personal hangup.

Sandi

Reading all the posts in this thread make me glad to a member of this community.

When I learned last year that I am sterile, and have low/intermittent testosterone, I felt initially like less than a man. Though I was glad to finally know the reason for being the way I am, it was a blow to the ego.

This community has forced me to think differently than I have. It has changed me very much for the better. One of the ways it has changed me is by showing me that it really is all about how we face the world that makes us what we are.

We are men. We are women. We are eunuchs. We can be what we are without any shame.

jako9999, You are a man. You are a man by your actions, by your accomplishments, your thoughts and your deeds. Legally, intellectually, spiritually, you remain a man. Two lumps of gristle don't decide that for you. You do.

That idiot you spoke of is just that, an idiot. It sounds like you are more of a man than he could ever be.

When I look in the mirror after a shower I see a neutered male body with some new female traits. More weight in the thighs along with a rounder butt. Less body hair and more female pattern to the remaining pubic hair. My body like my mind is in the middle between masculine and feminine. I have never used any HRT in 14 years be it T or E.

My brain which was never very masculine is happier without the influence of T. My gender seems to float between M and F. I am eunuch in body and mind.

You are a male and that is how you feel and relate. No one's opinion matters but yours.

Thanks for the kind words And Im glad you feel as you do now

Is a MTF person a woman?

Is a FTM person a man?

When do they achieve those designations?

Cainanite (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:27 am Reading all the posts in this thread make me glad to a member of this community.

jako9999, You are a man. You are a man by your actions, by your accomplishments, your thoughts and your deeds. Legally, intellectually, spiritually, you remain a man. Two lumps of gristle don't decide that for you. You do.

That idiot you spoke of is just that, an idiot. It sounds like you are more of a man than he could ever be.

I agree with these statements. You know who you are and others opinions do not matter.

Mac (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:02 am Is a MTF person a woman?

Is a FTM person a man?

When do they achieve those designations?

Where I worked had a fellow who left one Friday as a man and came back the Monday dressed as a woman to do his year long stint under drugs before SRS. I spoke with one of the people who worked daily with her -- it was "her" after the dressing change and before the surgery. Simple change of pronoun for all of us outsiders and that was it. The hard change was hers in struggling to deal with her changes. I didn't want to contribute more hardship than there already was in her life.

After the SRS, it was she because she had breasts and a vagina and all he outward appearances of a woman.

Likewise, a woman has SRS and changes physically into a man then we owe him the common decency to call him a man.

I personally don't see the problem with calling people HE/SHE/IT as they wish to be called.

C&TL2745 (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:10 am While I agree intellectually that it's what's between the ears that counts rather than what's between the legs in determining gender, still, if a "woman" comes into the ladies' room wearing jeans and a teeshirt, obviously having facial hair, a deep voice and no boobs, and "she" stands in a stall with the stall door half open to pee, I think I'd go find another restroom regardless of what "she" feels "she" is. Maybe just my personal hangup.

Sandi

I think your description wouldn't be that of a woman. Women do make an effort to sit and close the door properly is my understanding of the ladies room. I think someone just starting out on the RLT would be doing their best to show an outward female appearance. I agree with you to find another restroom, or get a security guard.

Conversely men don't seem to have an issue with natal women using our restrooms

There is the problem of that year the trans person spends dressed as the other sex and having to behave as the other sex and using a public restroom. Be very careful because this could be lots of trouble.

Where I worked solved the problem by dedicating a small washroom to one person. There were four other washrooms in the building (big building) and that prevented all sorts of problems.

In another case where there was an accessibility issue for a wheelchair, management removed the stall walls of a one stall bathroom and put a sign on the door --- Men occupied, women occupied, empty with a magnetic slide to post over the appropriate portion of the sign. They everyone had tot lock the door when they went in. But only five people worked in that building and they respected each others privacy.

Do people still address you as Mister or Sir. Guess that makes you a man.

You are what you want to be. If you want to be called a eunuch, then be a eunuch. If you want to be called a man, be a man.

It's as simple as that.

For me, I'm a man to everyone in public. To my partner, people here, and close friends I'm a eunuch.

--LT

To all of my friends that know, I'm still a Man, just a man with no testilces, I present as a man and always will. Missing two pieces of meat between my legs makes no difference to me or any of my friends. I don't hide it but I don't bring it up in conversation directly, if I do want to talk about it I do mention that I've had surgery and if the conversation goes further it does, if not I don't push it. Don't want to push it in someones face.

Ken

In modern society is it even relevant? Historically we know if Eunuchs being harem guards and the castrati singers. We also know of defeated armies soldiers being castrated by the victors. In the 21st century it isn't something that needs to be advertised. As you present to the world is how you will be accepted generally speaking. It isn't like one would go around saying "Oh, I just look like a man, I don't have balls anymore so I'm really not."

I'm rather certain that 99% or so don't even consider the subject when they meet someone. Unless the person is androgynous in presentation or cross dressed to some degree.

Testicles don't make you a man, HEART does. I saw a video yesterday of someone standing up for the Truth in the face of a huge opposition of hateful enemies, and he STILL wouldn't back down, even when it could have cost him his life! Now that's a man. Whether he had testicles or no testicles, he never mentioned.