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is it true that eunuchs do not struggle with sexual lust ?

--Still fall in love though...

I would say that 90% of true eunuchs, who do not use any form of HRT (hormone replacement therapy) do not lust for sex or women. There seem to be a few eunuchs who still maintain a higher hormone level after castration and therefore have some lust or sexual desire, but for most eunuchs, they do not lust. I did not think about sex after castration and lost my desire to pursue a penectomy, though at times a wave to remove my penis comes over me. It's strange to look at a woman and not even think about her boobs or body, to see a woman and not really desire her. I had no lust before I started HRT and even now, with a low dose regimen, my sexual lust or desire is low. My penis has shrunk a lot and I haven't had a erection while looking at a woman in a long time. Sometimes my wife can stir things up, but she not all that sexual any more.

I also take a small dose of T I have gone from wanting sex all the time with 10 to 15 erections a day all at the wrong times a wet dream most nights and masturbation 4 times a day. Now I think of sex may be once a week I masturbate once a week Ive had one wet dream in 9 months, its great but should I want sex or my wife does we work at it I get hard and come but it takes around 30 mins now. I am very happy with the way things are now.

One cannot make categorical statements in response to something like this. Results can vary considerably. Even at times when my T has been very low, I still enjoyed watching the boys and wondering what if. Depends also on what you are defining as lust. I don't go drooling over someone's dick standing next to me at the urinal, but I might take a glance if given a shot. Define what you mean and perhaps you can get better, more specific answers.

kristoff wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2012 8:42 am I don't go drooling over someone's dick standing next to me at the urinal, but I might take a glance if given a shot.

Ah ha! I always suspected gay guys did that ...

So do straight guys and prepubescent boys. Nothing odd at all about it.

Also, not all gay guys are the same. I'd say it's not different from straight guys - not everyone stares at boobs or asses or whatever. Actually, everyone's different, so thinking in boxes ("them") is quite dangerous. There's just no "the gays", like there's no "the blacks", "the women" or so.

As for me, I even can't remember looking at other people's dicks at urinals - but on the other hand I'm more attracted to sexy nice chests and stuff

Please also consider that "being gay" just means that a man feels sexually attracted to men as opposed to women - it's as simple as that. Sure, there's some guys who prefer prancing around in pink silk coats and high heel pumps, but that's only a very small minority. Sadly, in our language there's no differentiation between "gay" as referring to someone's sexual orientation and "gay" as describing someone like I mentioned above. But one meaning doesn't necessarily imply the other. Actually, you won't recognize the very most gay people if you met them - they are just "normal people" (whatever that means). And this is just right, because a person's sexual orientation should not be other people's business.

Sorry for sounding somewhat "schoolmasterly" - just wanted to "complete" this post.

I never "struggled with sexual lust." Perhaps that is an artifact of the way in which I am autistic. My life never even took me into the realm of "adultery of the heart," perhaps because it never occurs to me to use other people as objects for my personal gratification in any way or manner whatsoever.

Because I do not accept or otherwise tolerate "being used" by other people, I am adamantly unwilling to use other people. To me, to lust is to use another person or object or whatever, and I experience the mere thought of lust as impossibly excruciating to sustain it more than as a transient experience of what my life asks me to exclude from it.

Yes, by every method I have found to test, I have a full repertoire of pheromone responses, and I find that I have a full range of affect awareness. I seem to be unable to disrespect myself enough to be able to disrespect anyone else.

In my experience, there are people who I have found to have a very functional and accurate "gaydar," and there are people I have found to have a very functional and accurate "transdar."

There was the time that a young man showed up in the day room of a psychiatric hospital where I was an inpatient, around 25 years ago. That person had arrived by ambulance from a hospital emergency room and had been awake, the emergency room sedation having worn off, for a while. Some trivial details are changed in what comes next, for the sake of proper confidentiality...

When the person sat up, I asked whether we might talk with each other, and was told, "Okay."

I stated my name, the other person stated that person's name, and said, "Some people think I am a girl."

I said, "I think I may know something about that."

We both soon found that we both "knew something about that."

It has always been a very good experience for me when I meet someone who really "knows something about that," knowing it through actually lived experiences.

I harbor the view that, if anyone actually understands the generalized form of the Pauli Exclusion Principle of physics/quantum-mechanics, there can never be any two of anything that are actually the same; if two things are actually the same, there is actually only one of them.

The absolute uniqueness of everything, and of every actual aspect, of anything and everything that actually exists is the quantum-mechanical essence of that which allows existence to actually exist, so my grasp of the meaning of quantum mechanics inescapably informs me.

Therefore, I do not learn of my validity as a human person by making comparisons of any aspect or aspects of my life with aspects of the lives of other people.

I find that we are all perfectly normal, regardless of whether or not we believe that.

but what determines if a man is truly a homosexual or not?

Like I consider myself heterosexual but have had very few homosexual thoughts pass through my mind, does this make me a homosexual or a bisexual. How does one define when a man is truly a homosexual. Like you can have a homosexual man who is married to a woman.

or are all of us humans bisexual and homo/hetero sexual is obsolete.

when I was younger I was totally heterosexual but women are not so interested in me so then I started to question my orientation being I never bothered to approach women.

I think a definition of Lust is needed. Although I'm not a eunuch, age has definitely decreased my libido. I can easily go a month before feeling any physical need for sex, although I can get aroused reading or writing a good castration story.

If Lust means wanting to fuck someone - or have someone fuck me - that rarely happens.

My sexual preference is somewhat ambiguous. I've had many more female sexual partners than male sexual partners, but I have had my share of male sexual partners as the dominant and as the submissive partner. On my several trips to Thailand, where I could, for $20 (1986) have my choice of sexual partners, I always partook of both sexes, of which the Thai girls seemed to accept more easily than did the Thai boys. I never had a Thai girl cry because she saw me with a boy, but I did have a Thai boy cry because he saw me with a girl.

Few of my sexual partners in Thailand were prostitutes in that there was any discussion of money before the act, although I'm sure they would have been pissed if I hadn't given them something afterward. I had several of them call and write me after I was back in the USA. Damn! I loved Thailand.

Today, I have frequently passed up opportunities for sex, even using the excuse, "I'm too old to think about such things," even though I have no erectile dysfunction. I can get it hard anytime.

When I was younger, I would have fucked - and did fuck - about anything that had a pussy. Now, I'd rather masturbate than get caught up in "I let you fuck me, so you owe me."

Now, if I came upon a good looking 20 something year-old that wanted to do it (either sex), I'd probably go for it, but that ain't going to happen. Even in Thailand, I went with ones that found me attractive, even if I did end up giving them money. I wouldn't go back, because I'm 26 years older, and if anyone went with me, it would be strictly for the money (one of them even wanted to have my baby, even though, as far as she knew, I'd never come back.) Hell, I don't want to have sex with anyone my age either.

The closest I've come to feeling lust lately is for this boy, young 20s, at work. He's openly gay but isn't swishy, if you know what I mean. God! He's cute.

knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:49 pm but what determines if a man is truly a homosexual or not?

Like I consider myself heterosexual but have had very few homosexual thoughts pass through my mind, does this make me a homosexual or a bisexual. How does one define when a man is truly a homosexual. Like you can have a homosexual man who is married to a woman.

or are all of us humans bisexual and homo/hetero sexual is obsolete.

when I was younger I was totally heterosexual but women are not so interested in me so then I started to question my orientation being I never bothered to approach women.

I think we all fall somewhere on a continuum with homosexual at one end and heterosexual on the other. I would guess that few fall at one end of the continuum but are somewhere in between. In the first grade at school, even though I had no sexual thoughts, I wanted both the cute boys and the cute girls to like me, although, even then, the boys probably had more of an attraction for me.

I figure I fall closer to the homosexual side of the continuum, and I have no regrets for where I am - or was. I wouldn't have wanted to pass up any of those sexual encounters whether male of female.

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2012 9:09 am Ah ha! I always suspected gay guys did that ...

I'm gay, and I don't do that. I know you don't mean offense, but I resent your assumption that gay men are some sort of peeping-tom-bathroom-pervert.

knightbird111 (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:49 pm but what determines if a man is truly a homosexual or not?

Like I consider myself heterosexual but have had very few homosexual thoughts pass through my mind, does this make me a homosexual or a bisexual. How does one define when a man is truly a homosexual. Like you can have a homosexual man who is married to a woman.

or are all of us humans bisexual and homo/hetero sexual is obsolete.

when I was younger I was totally heterosexual but women are not so interested in me so then I started to question my orientation being I never bothered to approach women.

Don't want to capture this thread, so I'll try and make it short:

As Sigmund Freud said, bisexuality is the only "normal" human sexuality, but the distribution varies, and true hetero- and homosexuality are pretty rare. However, due to our society and social boundaries, most people manage to suppress their homosexual feelings. Sadly this often leads to people leading a double life - playing the caring father and familyman at day and hanging around at gay bars, saunas etc. at night. Sadly this is still a huge problem in most countries due to open homosexuality being not accepted, leading to gays being more or less "forced" into heterosexual relationships, marriages etc. Depending on the degree of heterosexuality within the gay person, this may work out (as mentioned before, it seems to do so for the most) or not. As for me, I would never even consider starting a relationship with a woman, but if I was forced to marry one (as it is still the case in some countries), I suppose that I could somehow manage this situation (even if it wouldn't be fulfilling or satisfying for me) and not attempt suicide or so. But that's just valid for me, of course.

I also highly doubt that a lack of interest in women is sufficient to tell that someone is gay - actually there must be some interest in men instead, of course (otherwise that person would be more of an asexual).