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How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:10 pm
by Ryby1234 (imported)
Hello
I have a question and need a answer. Two days ago one out of my testicles was removed and vas deferens from the another was tied off and cut. My objective is flush a last sperms from my reproductive system as quickly as possible. I masturbate 2 times a day this (before I started to write this post I have made this 6-th time after my vasectomy and castration) but I would like to know how many ejaculations or how much time after vasectomy and castration is needed for achieve my goal. When can I expect to became sterile? Do any of you know the answer for this question? Many thanks
Ryby
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:56 pm
by billf82 (imported)
As with much in biology, there is no precise answer. Biological systems (e.g., humans) vary. However, the reservoirs for storing sperm in the body are not huge. My guess would be that you are shooting blanks now.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:49 am
by littletits (imported)
Yes,you are probably now totally sterile but to be sure and avoid any surprises have a fertility test. Each ejaculation emits sperm from the system which in your case should not be being replinished. As far as I am aware all vasectomised men are advised to have a fertility test at six weeks and to use protection until they are certified sterile by their doctor. The time lapse is simply due to the bodys power to heal itself as failure rate is higher than you would imagine combined the fact that imature sperm are still maturing in your remaining plumbing.. You should have no libido or hormone issues with just one testicle. I am intrigued that you went over half way but did go for full castration. In my case I had no choice ( my testes were crushed to pulp) but have never regretted beig castrated. I enjoyed being a Eunuch and now enjoy my now new totally female body or as close as a trans woman can achieve to femininity after six years as a eunuch. Before taking female hormones becoming a woman was never on my agenda but it is awonderful experience. I started for bone health as T just drove me crazy with desires I could not answer with a permanent limp organ. Female hormones are very adddictive. It's probably easier to get off heroin than off oestrogen/progesterone. If you want to remain male avoid it like the plague. T.G. for Thailand. I still am attracted to women so so that makes me a eunuch trans lesbian I guesss. I am not concerned with labels and I am just me.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:02 am
by unencumbered (imported)
littletits (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:49 am
Female hormones are very adddictive. It's probably easier to get off heroin than off oestrogen/progesterone. If you want to remain male avoid it like the plague.
Curious to know more why this would be the case. Can you not just take a minimal amount of female hormones to maintain health and not lose your maleness, even though castrated?
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:40 am
by SplitDik (imported)
When I got my vasectomy from a real surgeon, he said three months to be certain and them wanted me to do semen analysis. If a doctor that knows how to do this properly is that worried that sperm might linger, I would follow those guidelines.
By the way, cutting the vas deferens.doesn't ensure sterility -- apparently since sperm "swim" they can find their way to the severed chords.
I find it kinda hard to believe that only two days after having been hacked open by a cutter that you're main concern is to masturbate and get to sterility quickly...you shouldn't have sex for weeks until healed, must guys wouldn't want to as it would be painful,.and what woman is going to be interested in getting pregnant from a guy who its obviously mutilating himself?
Aaron
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:15 am
by Ryby1234 (imported)
SplitDik (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:40 am
When I got my vasectomy from a real surgeon, he said three months to be certain and them wanted me to do semen analysis. If a doctor that knows how to do this properly is that worried that sperm might linger, I would follow those guidelines.
By the way, cutting the vas deferens.doesn't ensure sterility -- apparently since sperm "swim" they can find their way to the severed chords.
I find it kinda hard to believe that only two days after having been hacked open by a cutter that you're main concern is to masturbate and get to sterility quickly...you shouldn't have sex for weeks until healed, must guys wouldn't want to as it would be painful,.and what woman is going to be interested in getting pregnant from a guy who its obviously mutilating himself?
Aaron
SpltDik
All my wounds are healing well. At day of surgery the pain was moderate, now is low. I can describe it rather as discomfort than pain. In many situations i.e. when I sit on the chair and type something on my computer I don't feel it at all. Before my surgery I bought a jar of painkiller pills, but I was no need to use any of them. Even on the evening a day when my surgery has been done the pain was not big enough to obstacle in my masturbation. Comparing to some activity that I have made before i.e. injection of saline or putting a needles into testicles the present level of pain is lower.
Of course I will not expose my girlfriend to risk of unwanted pregnacy. Before we decide to stop the contraception I will perform a sperm check to be sure that there is no sperm inside. I'm only curious to know how much time or how many ejaculation are needed to remove them.
My vasectomy was not a simple cut of vas deferens. Both end of this structure were tied of using absorbable surgical sutures and section between those knots (about 2 cm long) was removed. I think that there is very little chance of failure (such rejoin the vas or regenerate a sperm flow) if vasectomy was performed this way, but I will be careful until the result of sperm check show zero.
Regards
Ryby
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:18 am
by cheetaking243 (imported)
littletits (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:49 am
Female hormones are very adddictive. It's probably easier to get off heroin than off oestrogen/progesterone. If you
Curious to know more why this would be the case. Can you not just take a minimal amount of female hormones to maintain
health and not lose your maleness, even though castrated?
Well, as someone who is currently in the process of gender transitioning, and as such is on estrogen, let me report that for me it definitely is addictive (although I wouldn't say it's easier to get off of heroin... that's going a bit too far.) And the reason why this is the case for me, is because taking it makes me feel unfathomably happier. On the very first day that I was on E, I had this absolute emotional explosion where all of a sudden everything tasted better, everything sounded better, and every single one of the joyful things in life had suddenly become more joyful. So the increased pleasure is definitely addictive. Plus the feminizing effects are also addictive. They start slowly, and once they started I just wanted more and more, and I'm actually feeling really impatient now about how long it's taking. (Side note: again, I am a transsexual, so for me it's good that things are feminizing, because that is what I wanted in the first place.) But yeah, E is definitely only if you are sure that you really want permanent feminization. Because E really aids in the brain's ability to process pleasure chemicals, so it is indeed hard to stop once you get started. And if you're not careful, one morning you might wake up with a body you don't like anymore, and a lot of the effects will be permanent. (Breast buds, for example, will NEVER go away.)
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:19 am
by Ryby1234 (imported)
littletits (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:49 am
Yes,you are probably now totally sterile but to be sure and avoid any surprises have a fertility test. Each ejaculation emits sperm from the system which in your case should not be being replinished. As far as I am aware all vasectomised men are advised to have a fertility test at six weeks and to use protection until they are certified sterile by their doctor. The time lapse is simply due to the bodys power to heal itself as failure rate is higher than you would imagine combined the fact that imature sperm are still maturing in your remaining plumbing.. You should have no libido or hormone issues with just one testicle. I am intrigued that you went over half way but did go for full castration. In my case I had no choice ( my testes were crushed to pulp) but have never regretted beig castrated. I enjoyed being a Eunuch and now enjoy my now new totally female body or as close as a trans woman can achieve to femininity after six years as a eunuch. Before taking female hormones becoming a woman was never on my agenda but it is awonderful experience. I started for bone health as T just drove me crazy with desires I could not answer with a permanent limp organ. Female hormones are very adddictive. It's probably easier to get off heroin than off oestrogen/progesterone. If you want to remain male avoid it like the plague. T.G. for Thailand. I still am attracted to women so so that makes me a eunuch trans lesbian I guesss. I am not concerned with labels and I am just me.
Thanks for answer. If you would like know a reasons of my decision you will found them in following thread:
http://www.eunuch.org/forums/showthread ... inish-line
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:50 am
by Uncle Flo (imported)
It seems to me that your healing is in a good state. You are, by far, not the only one to masturbate with vigor after castration. There are some who are so excited by their castration that they masturbate as much as possible soon after the operation with no bad effects. I had a vasectomy a long time ago and a few years later it was shown to have failed (that vasectomy failure is now 32 years old), but the method used on me was different than the one used on you. So, you should be quite sure that you are sterile by being tested at intervals over time (I was not tested this way). --FLO--
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:15 am
by _g (imported)
cheetaking243 (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:18 am
unencumbered (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:02 am
Curious to know more why this would be the case. Can you not just take a minimal amount of female hormones to maintain health a
nd not lose your maleness, even though castrated?
To keep your maleness you have to take testosterone, taking female hormones without testosterone you will grow breasts and look more female.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:43 am
by experiment (imported)
littletits, you said your testes were crushed. Can you tell us how it happened?was it by choice, accident, or some otehr event?
littletits (imported) wrote: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:49 am
In my case I had no choice ( my testes were crushed to pulp) but have never regretted beig castrated. I enjoyed being a Eunuch and now enjoy my now new totally female body or as close as a trans woman .
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 1:52 am
by SplitDik (imported)
All I can say is that I got a vasectomy from a top California urologist using modern methods and he was concerned to ensure that at least six months passed with two negative semen samples before he declared it successful. I had the vas deferens severed, cauterized and tied off.
Another consideration its that if you do any rough ball play our cbt, it can open up the vas deferens again.
Sperm are microscopic and can move and so even a tiny opportunity for them to make it through jeopardizes the effectiveness of the vasectomy.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:49 am
by Ryby1234 (imported)
Thank you SplitDik, I will be careful.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:42 am
by littletits (imported)
I was castrated totally by accident. I was kicked in the crotch by our thoroughbred stallion (normally a placid animal). My testes were destroyed, my pubic bone was fractured and my penis was just one bruise from end to end. I was black and blue from my waistband to half way down my thighs. It did not help that I had just emerged from our pool and was wearing only swimming trunks at the time. I was prescribed and took testosterone with no effect other than frustration. I could not get erect due to vascular damage and some nerve damage and never would again. I had a choice of either sit in a corner and cry about my loss or make the best of the situation. I am a positive person and adapted to being a eunuch and and came to enjoy my assexual state and built a thriving business. I would have remained thus if but after a bone scan it was clear I was heading for problems and fractures. I had to take HRT. Testosterone was out as my experience for the short time I was on it was not a happy one. I started to take a low dose of E. It was like throwing petrol on a fire. My A cup bust started to grow at an alarming pace. Within six weeks i needed a B cup bra and had to wear very loose clothing or tie my breasts down. With very sensitive enlarging nipples this was painful. I found the mental changes the most striking. I found that the idea of becoming female was attractive, I was much more caring and sensitive with no male agresion and anger always came out in tears. I thoroughly enjoyed the new me and decided to go the whole hog and have my body ,and genitals altered to the female form. I am lucky that I have considerable personal funds to fund this transition. I was monitered and still am being monitered by my doctor throughout my transistion. I suppose that the fact that I could not be a man but could come very close to a genetic female played its part in my journey. I am still atracted to women. I have found that because of the skill of my surgeon I am orgasmic. Nothing like the male orgasms I vaguely remember but mind blowing in a totally different way. All in all I am happy and have the full suport of family and friends in my trans. journey. If it were posible would I go back to being an intact man?. No.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:31 am
by Ryby1234 (imported)
Now I know a answer for my question! My castration and vasectomy was performed on 27 January. On 5 February ordered a sperm test, and result of this analysis was no sperms in sample (before my castration it was 18mln/ml). Between a day of my castration and vasectomy and day when I ordered this analysis I have masturbated 18 times. Now it is clear that seven days (I did not masturbated on 04 January) and 18 ejaculations were enough to remove all sperms from my body. I'm sterile but to be sure of this result before we will stop our contraception I'm going to order this test once again.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:23 am
by kristoff
I've just re-read this thread, and to put it bluntly (my usual way), I think you are a troll and full of shit. We've seen you (your type) here many times, and too often they reek. Good bye.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:34 pm
by Slammr (imported)
kristoff wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2013 9:23 am
I've just re-read this thread, and to put it bluntly (my usual way), I think you are a troll and full of shit. We've seen you (your type) here many times, and too often they reek. Good bye.
That was my thought. This guy just didn't ring true.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:02 pm
by derick77 (imported)
Slammr (imported) wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2013 3:34 pm
That was my thought. This guy just didn't ring true.
go and have a look at his pics on tribe.net
he is real
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:01 pm
by george2u2 (imported)
Congratulations are in order. Your journey is different, let's hope it's a happy one.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:13 am
by kristoff
derick77 (imported) wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2013 5:02 pm
go and have a look at his pics on tribe.net
he is real
I did have a look. It does look real enough to me. Story just wasn't adding up compared to the experiences most report. I will reverse myself.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:25 pm
by SplitDik (imported)
I was the same way, you can see my previous posts claiming his desires were unusual and inconsistent. Definitely doesn't make sense to me -- that being half castrated would be interesting to anyone is illogical to me. So I doubted his whole story. But his longer set of posts actually was consistent enough to turn me around.
Re: How much time or how many ejaculations are needed to became sterile
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:37 pm
by Ryby1234 (imported)
Exactly, Ryby is my profile on Tribe.