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As an outsider I was curious if the issue of Eunuch calm was a myth?

Does anyone have any opinions as to the phychological benefits of castration or nullificaction, does it make someone more docile, less toremented by emotional ups and downs, does it vary with the individual , or alternatively is it just an old wives tale of sorts?

I would been keen to hear anyones opinion.

Of my own very short experience of chemical castration I can tell you that I felt something that can be called "eunuch calm". As I have read some do not experience it at all and other percept it differently. for me that calm feeling was strongly mixed with liberation, feeling of being free urges and pressures. So, for me it was pretty real. But I must tell you that it does not come with cost. There are many downsides that I did not enjoy. Like feeling and being physically weak. Joint pains. unable to fall asleep. etc.

It is very hard to know how castration affects you psychologically. In that sense physical and chemical castrations are very different. While first is reversible, second one is irreversible. you might react very different to surgical castration after it is done. Especially when you haven't put much thought into your decision.

Docile? May be it looks that way. but yea for me decision making and getting motivated to accomplish things changed. Some may fall into letargy.

Emotionally you will be much easier to become disbalanced. On other things you may care less. Some describe it like emotional rollercoaster. You have to experience it yourself.

coffee10 (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:56 am As an outsider I was curious if the issue of Eunuch calm was a myth?

Does anyone have any opinions as to the phychological benefits of castration or nullificaction, does it make someone more docile, less toremented by emotional ups and downs, does it vary with the individual , or alternatively is it just an old wives tale of sorts?

I would been keen to hear anyones opinion.

You might have experienced it more

while the Political Forum was closed



made me do it.

coffee10 (imported) wrote: Sat Feb 09, 2013 11:56 am As an outsider I was curious if the issue of Eunuch calm was a myth?

I would been keen to hear anyones opinion.

I would say that you do not have to be a eunuch to be calm. I have always been an unemotional person. The last time I can remember getting really excited was the 1966 World cup final, England v. Germany. My view is that strong emotions hinder rational thought and generally speaking action based on rational thought is more effective than action based on emotion.

The worst thing that castration and growing old have in common is the loss of physical strength. I was shocked to discover I can no longer do chin ups or press ups or carry a 50kg bag of cement. Of course this may be due to a sedentary lifestyle (aka sheer laziness).

So if you are unable to think yourself into a calm state of mind and you earn your living while sitting down, it could well be beneficial to have 'em off.

I can easily define what a eunuch is-I am one having been castrated several years ago-but I cannot define calm in a way that everyone might accept. And then you put the two together. I am "calmer" because being castrated was a goal to me and it was frustrating not to be able to achieve it. Some are bothered by a galloping libido and becoming a eunuch relieves that pressure. But it's back to the word "calm". A lake is calm as there are no waves but this does not mean there can't be. I am calm just now as I'm concentrating on writing an answer to what is, to me, a complicated but necessary question. That calm could be interrupted if...a variety of things happened any of which caused an adrenaline rush, always a factor in not being "calm". I'm sure there's a definition in a dictionary, check the OED for the last word technically but I should suspect that no two eunuchs could agree on what "eunuch calm" really is.

Eunuch calm to me means having total absence of sexual thoughts.

I DEFINITELY experienced something that I would call a "eunuch calm" during the week of my HRT where I was off of estrogen but still on chem-castration drugs. For me, it was like a feeling of contentment... a feeling like there was no hurry, and like everything was right with the world, and there really weren't the same highs and lows as before. Things were what they were, rather than getting passionate and fired up about them. It was a more even-keeled state of existence.

Again, that's just my experience. And in my case, this is EXACTLY the kind of feeling that I was always hoping for by doing chem-castration in the first place, so perhaps it's part psychological, but I definitely felt it... almost as soon as I first took chem-castration drugs, I started feeling calmer and less tense and on-edge.

Erikboy is right about joint pain, though, that's been a big issue for me as well. (I'm very often HURTING after full days of work now.)

The elusive eunuch calm. After 15 years as a no T eunuch I had recently questioned if the eunuch calm becomes the eunuch boredom. I think my calm comes from several aspects of my life. As a eunuch I feel happier with me and being happy with yourself is calming. I was a sex addict always out looking for greater thrills and never being truly satisfied. Not being driven by addiction is calming.

I was reminded of some of my pre-eunuch behaviors this morning out walking my dog. We walk in a field near a Sunday AA meeting and I thought about the times I would be drinking and after enough needed to go out on the prowl. When I think about all the risks I would take and never had legal consequences I realize how lucky I was. It is calming that even though I still have fantasies I do not have the drive to act upon them. Having control over myself is calming.

I think that if the mind wants to be a eunuch and you achieve it, one may experience a eunuch calm but if you are made a eunuch but don't want to be, I believe it is the ultimate frustration. Several years ago, I was diagnosed with eunuch T levels of about 32ng/dl but didn't want that so I am struggling on TRT trying to regain what I lost. It is very frustrating. I am a calm person by nature but found that when the T was reduced I became forgetful, unable to concentrate, always tired, weak, hot flashes, cold sweats, and a feeling of extremely low self esteem. Did I mention forgetfulness? I would trade almost anything to have my natural T production back but it is not to be. I still have the facilities, ie. Testes, but they are not functional. It sucks being me! I am administering .5mg of Testosterone cypionate weekly but it doesn't compare with the real thing.

gjvr2001 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:38 am I am administering .5mg of Testosterone cypionate weekly but it doesn't compare with the real thing.

Recent studies have found that there is a mix of androgenic hormones, not only Testosterone that makes us feel like we feel. That explains well why TRT can't replace natural source of T on many cases.

Probably "eunuch calm" is more about what others notice about you rather than what you see in yourself. At the workplace you're destined to more problems and bullying than anyone else. Sometimes seeing how you're always so "energetic, lively, happy and content", others will seek out to purposely get you riled up. Which you will since you're human. And if they don't feel like you're hurting enough they'll go completely out of their way to make sure you damned well are hurting. Many feel that it is their very purpose that everyone should be as miserable as them and of course you'll become their prime target since you're the one which most has that lively, happy, and content demeanor, more than anyone else. You may be happy because you're not so involved in "playing their love-games" as they are but still above all else you will always have bouts of anger, joy, feeling hurt and of enthusiasm and everything else.

devi (imported) wrote: Wed Feb 13, 2013 5:17 am Probably "eunuch calm" is more about what others notice about you rather than what you see in yourself. At the workplace you're destined to more problems and bullying than anyone else. Sometimes seeing how you're always so "energetic, lively, happy and content", others will seek out to purposely get you riled up. Which you will since you're human. And if they don't feel like you're hurting enough they'll go completely out of their way to make sure you damned well are hurting. Many feel that it is their very purpose that everyone should be as miserable as them and of course you'll become their prime target since you're the one which most has that lively, happy, and content demeanor, more than anyone else. You may be happy because you're not so involved in "playing their love-games" as they are but still above all else you will always have bouts of anger, joy, feeling hurt and of enthusiasm and everything else.

My experience was quite different since I was promoted to management three years after my surgery. Since I liked myself more I was less tolerant of being mistreated. I actually became more assertive. This all happened without ever taking any HRT.

I am calmer, slower to get angry and more accepting of others. I am also more emotional but in a good sort of way.

I don't know if you could call it "calm" but since I stopped TRT (nothing had changed while on TRT) I kind of feel now like oh well, that's life. I guess I am so to speak calmer now. I have had body changes I never planned on but I am like okay whatever.

Given the volatility and rancor thrown about on a daily basis in the EA Political Forums, it would seem that Eunuch Calm is more talked about than practiced.

Transward

ballsgone09 (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:47 am I don't know if you could call it "calm" but since I stopped TRT (nothing had changed while on TRT) I kind of feel now like oh well, that's life. I guess I am so to speak calmer now. I have had body changes I never planned on but I am like okay whatever.

Due to travel, and other atrocities, I stopped taking TRT.

This is something I have wanted to do, but "didn't have the balls" to make the plunge.

Oh, I got balls, but they are hard, small, dead, numb, worthless.

Anyway, while I don't know how low my T level may have become

whatever it was, I felt good.

I think the term "eunuch calm" is a bit underrated.

Lack of testosterone is great.

At least for me.

Probably a curse and nightmare for someone who wants to hump all the time.

I'm not at all sure if it is lack of T or the factor that I am getting older. But yes, I don't get excited about much of anything. At least not in the last year for sure.

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transward (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:31 am iven the volatility and rancor thrown about on a daily basis in the

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transward (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2013 5:31 am alm is more talked about than practiced.

Transward

true! Very true!!!

I recently lost the remaining part of my other testicle. I had one removed and part of the other as described back in 2010. I have had implants. I am not on my Testosterone Gel, just DHEA, Pregenelone and Arimidex.

I tried to use injections and I do not like how they make me feel.

I am not sure if I even want to use my T gel when it comes in.

I have baseline lab work, like yea I need to get it to make sure my testicles are not working, but it appears more as a subscapular Orchi to the Dr's because I have a lot their for not having the testicles, so they removed the cells from the other side. I am not sure what to think, I am feeling strange and know my T must be really low. I can still get hard ejaculate some, not as before, I get hard but do not stay hard as I did before I have to stimulate myself more to get a full errection before I would just get a full errection without even having to play..

Are you able to still get hard? I have been able to it is not as easy. I am 28 though..

nullorchis (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 14, 2013 1:34 pm Due to travel, and other atrocities, I stopped taking TRT.

This is something I have wanted to do, but "didn't have the balls" to make the plunge.

Oh, I got balls, but they are hard, small, dead, numb, worthless.

Anyway, while I don't know how low my T level may have become

whatever it was, I felt good.

I think the term "eunuch calm" is a bit underrated.

Lack of testosterone is great.

At least for me.

Probably a curse and nightmare for someone who wants to hump all the time.

I am like so calm I am tired, I have not wante dto do a whole lot. I still get full errection not the same but it gets hard. I am surprised I have not gone limp. The DHEA and PRegenelone with the Arimidex has done me well. I am just so brain fogged until I get more use to no testicles. I am not out looking for things to do like I use to a good time, spend money I am a lot more chill..

Just do not want to be detunred anymore than this,

If you'd come to a MOM event, you'd not describe any of the attendees as "calm".

Thanks everyone for your thoughts

All the best to you all.

coffee

I think it is pretty much a myth. The only thing I noticed is that when something goes wrong I don't get that "oh no what am I going to do now feeling".

Can't say I noticed a calming effect. With Estrogen I think my fuse got shorter and now with no T or E I'm still a raging c**t at times. I'm also ridiculously emotional and it doesn't take much to get the water works going and this can be embarrasing. I also laugh hysterically here and there but I'm a fan of laughing so that doesn't bother me. I'm less spontaineous and enthusiastic for sure and this could be misconstrued as calmer I suppose.