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Are there any men out there that are unhappy because they gave up a pair of perfectly healthy testicles to a cutter for the thrill of it?

I have been reading the forum for a long time. I have seen other threads where a person has asked if anyone has any regrets. Most of the replies have been by the regulars, and all of the answers have generally been that there are no regrets, often that the person wishes the castration had been years earlier. The regular posters also mention that to avoid regrets, the castration has to have been for the right reasons: pain, cancer, image dysphoria, M2F switch, transgender issues, etc. On a recent thread I read, the first reply was a response that we have discussed this over and over again and redirections to previous threads which said about the same things. But, any all of the comments I have seen there is NEVER anyone who says they made a mistake and regrets their decision.

Many of the comments strongly cautioned that those who seek castration for fantasy reasons or for sexual thrill reasons, are going to be ultimately disappointed and unhappy with their decision to get get castrated. It clearly is a forum policy to strongly advise against using non-physician cutters. This certainly seems to be good common sense. However, my guess is that many of the castrated posters who do not regret their decision were done by non-physican, non-medical cutters.

However, I have never seen a post by an unhappy eunuch regretting what happened, or saying that he wishes he had listened to the advice to be cautious, or advising others who are sexually excited by the topic to not go through with it. Perhaps, those that have made the poor decision simply do not post their unhappy results, or leave EA for good, but it seems there would be at least a few unhappy castratees out there.

The posters on the forums, it seems, are mainly those old eunuchs that created this wonderful website and give good conservative safe advice, both because of their experience and wisdom, but, I think also, because politically, they don't want the site taken down for advocating unsafe sexual practices.

There is a distinct philosophical difference between what is found in the forums and what is found in the stories.

Are there any man out there that are unhappy because they gave up a pair of perfectly healthy testicles for the thrill of it?

Well mine weren't exactly healthy at the time of removal 2 months ago. I had wanted them gone for about 6 years and after a long struggle managed to get a certified urologist to do the deed. Mine were basically non functional anyway with a T level of around castrate level and I was on HRT anyway, so I used calcium chloride injections to damage them to the extent that the urologist took one look at the scans and told me that he would strongly recommend removal without my having to prompt him in that direction. This was done on 03/15/2014 and I could not be happier with the outcome.

A word of caution to those wanting to go the same route as I have, Make absolutely sure that this is what you want as once they are gone, they are gone for good. Also if you are considering the Calcium Chloride injection route, read the thread from page 1 right to the end as there are some of us who have made mistakes in taking this route. I wasn't one as I heeded the advice to read the entire thread. I would however advise this route rather than pure alcohol injections as it works much faster.

micdavi24 (imported) wrote: Wed May 14, 2014 9:36 am I would however advise this route rather than pure alcohol injections as it works much faster.

I used alcohol injections and they worked for me, but without the trauma and pain. I think that it is a safer way to go about doing it, if done carefully, than are calcium injections, but that's my opinion. We're only talking about, what, a difference of two months?

micdavi and unencumbered, thanks for your replies.

But, I am asking about regrets about castration, and it doesn't sound like either of you regret losing your balls. I am talking about eunuchs that are sorry their balls are gone, that admit to making a foolish decision and regrets it. Please don't hijack this thread discussing testicle injection techniques.

Is there anyone out there that was sexually excited, that got a hard-on when thinking about being castrated and about other men being castrated that then got castrated in a sexual scene, and now regrets doing it? Does anyone know of anyone like that?

Those with serious regrets are highly unlikely to stick around to post here. We know that they exist, but they quickly disappear from sight. The moderators have heard of a couple who have gone so far as to commit suicide over their regrets, which is why we ALWAYS counsel trying chemical before surgical and we ALWAYS counsel going slow. Those who are happy tend to be very happy and they will write about how great they feel.

A few with minor regrets have stayed around for a short while, but they, too, tend to disappear from sight.

I would say that while I've come to terms with the non-reversible damage I've done to my genitals, I do regret that I ever had the urges in the first place. I was/am truly blessed with having everything go my way in life. Physically I was always the tallest, strongest, person around. Healthy, happy, successful. But my mind was always obsessed with sex, from very early age (by 9 I could barely concentrate in class thinking about sex) and that turned into desire to be free from such urges (which are torture when you don't have any chance of sexual relationship for a decade while battling these urges) which turned into desire for castration. I damaged myself in so many ways. Yet I know that my body (including my genitals) were really beautiful and healthy. But the urge was there, continuous, and severe. I ended up in the hospital so many times with them repairing damage I'd done. Finally a year and a half ago I convinced a girl to inject calcium chloride and that was pretty much it for the balls.

I know it was inevitable, so can't say I regret that it happened. It had to happen. I couldn't find any other cure. I tried going really libertine and frequenting prostitutes (I was rich enough early in life due to founding a tech startup that I could pay for up to two high class prostitutes every night! I am not joking that I spent over $2M on prostitutes.) and also tried going the other way with meditation and Zen monasteries, and also tried anti-depressants, exercise, everything. I just couldn't shake my horniness.

So it happened. I don't regret it. But I regret that I was built such that I had to do such self-harm to what was otherwise a beautiful and healthy body.

dagmar20040404 (imported) wrote: Wed May 14, 2014 8:20 am There is a distinct philosophical difference between what is found in the forums and what is found in the stories.

Yes, and the reason for that is perfectly obvious: the stories are all (or almost all) works of fantasy. Most of the forums are about real life. These are not the same, and the "philosophy" of fiction is not the same as the philosophy of life. There are plenty of stories in the archive that describe things some of us find very exciting to read about, but that would be not only illegal and dangerous but extremely immoral to carry out in real life. It would be unwise to draw any conclusions about what people here actually do or believe based on what sorts of stories they write.

I have done so much damage to my testes that I am in effect a eunuch with a T level of 92. I have no regrets whatsoever and have been at this level since last year and used chemical castration previously. Like SplitDik, I regret the amount of damage I have done over the years. I have never been so content. I will feel even better when they finally remove what is left, hopefully soon.

Great comments Jesus, SpltDik, boingboing, and Jcat.

Thank you for your thoughtful comments. I am sure Jesus is right that those with regrets would be unlikely to revisit the forum even if they were regular readers before. And, those with regrets were more likely story readers than forum follower. But, I was fishing to see if anyone having regrets were out there.

I think you would agree that those men who went through with voluntary (or "involuntary" [slave relationship]) castration for sexual reasons would be a very interesting subcategory of those of us interested in castration to learn about and learn from. Clumsy sentence, sorry.

SplitDik, was the damage that you did to your genitals on a repeated basis only to your testicles, or did you damage your penis too?

Interesting comment by SplitDik. I understand that you were rich, healthy and masculine looking. So why didn't you just find one or two lovers? Instead of paying the prostitutes. I barely make ends meet and am below average looking, so indeed I can't hire prostitutes so often and I am unable to find a decent looking partner. So I was on chem castration since May last year but had to give up Triptorelin injections as I have no money for that at the moment.

Yeah, I had zero regrets while my T was low so that I barely masturbated. But my urges are now back again and I will restart Triptorelin as soon as I get enough money again.

SplitDik (imported) wrote: Wed May 14, 2014 1:55 pm I would say that while I've come to terms with the non-reversible damage I've done to my genitals, I do regret that I ever had the urges in the first place. I was/am truly blessed with having everything go my way in life. Physically I was always the tallest, strongest, person around. Healthy, happy, successful. But my mind was always obsessed with sex, from very early age (by 9 I could barely concentrate in class thinking about sex) and that turned into desire to be free from such urges (which are torture when you don't have any chance of sexual relationship for a decade while battling these urges) which turned into desire for castration. I damaged myself in so many ways. Yet I know that my body (including my genitals) were really beautiful and healthy. But the urge was there, continuous, and severe. I ended up in the hospital so many times with them repairing damage I'd done. Finally a year and a half ago I convinced a girl to inject calcium chloride and that was pretty much it for the balls.

I know it was inevitable, so can't say I regret that it happened. It had to happen. I couldn't find any other cure. I tried going really libertine and frequenting prostitutes (I was rich enough early in life due to founding a tech startup that I could pay for up to two high class prostitutes every night! I am not joking that I spent over $2M on prostitutes.) and also tried going the other way with meditation and Zen monasteries, and also tried anti-depressants, exercise, everything. I just couldn't shake my horniness.

So it happened. I don't regret it. But I regret that I was built such that I had to do such self-harm to what was otherwise a beautiful and healthy body.

As much as I remember there has been well known few cases here on EA, where person who just got castrated falls into deep depression. Or is trying to reason his decision after it has happened, failing to convince himself that it was a good thing to get castrated. By now all they are long gone and I do not remember recent cases. I am afraid that these threads are also gone. One was from year 2004 as I remember.

It is very typical that people after their testosterone plummet close to zero, loose interest in this forum and vanish not giving much feedback.

Regretting castration is a known problem and thus chemical trial is suggested as the best alternative to non reversible orchiectomy. Also chemical route is less harsh, giving time to adapt with less pleasant effects. From what I have read people react to castration very diffent. So it is not possible to predict how castration could affect any single person.

Wisdom, this forum has gathered here, is to try out and decide only after. And avoid non medical castrators. Quite simple. Hopefully this has reduced regrets as well.

If you do it for the thrill of it you most likely will be unhappy, this is something you have to be serious with in your decision.

dagmar20040404 (imported) wrote: Wed May 14, 2014 8:20 am Are there any men out there that are unhappy because they gave up a pair of perfectly healthy testicles to a cutter for the thrill of it?

I have been reading the forum for a long time. I have seen other threads where a person has asked if anyone has any regrets. Most of the replies have been by the regulars, and all of the answers have generally been that there are no regrets, often that the person wishes the castration had been years earlier. The regular posters also mention that to avoid regrets, the castration has to have been for the right reasons: pain, cancer, image dysphoria, M2F switch, transgender issues, etc. On a recent thread I read, the first reply was a response that we have discussed this over and over again and redirections to previous threads which said about the same things. But, any all of the comments I have seen there is NEVER anyone who says they made a mistake and regrets their decision.

Many of the comments strongly cautioned that those who seek castration for fantasy reasons or for sexual thrill reasons, are going to be ultimately disappointed and unhappy with their decision to get get castrated. It clearly is a forum policy to strongly advise against using non-physician cutters. This certainly seems to be good common sense. However, my guess is that many of the castrated posters who do not regret their decision were done by non-physican, non-medical cutters.

However, I have never seen a post by an unhappy eunuch regretting what happened, or saying that he wishes he had listened to the advice to be cautious, or advising others who are sexually excited by the topic to not go through with it. Perhaps, those that have made the poor decision simply do not post their unhappy results, or leave EA for good, but it seems there would be at least a few unhappy castratees out there.

The posters on the forums, it seems, are mainly those old eunuchs that created this wonderful website and give good conservative safe advice, both because of their experience and wisdom, but, I think also, because politically, they don't want the site taken down for advocating unsafe sexual practices.

There is a distinct philosophical difference between what is found in the forums and what is found in the stories.

Are there any man out there that are unhappy because they gave up a pair of perfectly healthy testicles for the thrill of it?

I would also suggest going the chemical castraton first of all just in case. I think about it if under the direction of a doctor where they need to come off would approve that in a second but to remove them still healthy you need to really be sure. Like you said once they are removed they do not grow back and happy or not that is your state. Really wonder sometimes why you would go on HRt if you really wanted to have them off what would be the point? But then if I had mine off would want to loose the sack at least as well.

As a long time reader of this forum altought not a frequent writer (because this is not my mother language), I can remember at least one or two cases of men who regretted their castration: the one of them that I remember clearly was a young man from England (maybe 20-24 y.o.), who went in US to undergoing surgery by dr. Spector, and after some week fall in depression and deeply regretted his decision. I don't remember his nickname, but he was a great contributor of this forum, but he disappeared completely. Some time after, he was interviewed by an English tv program and talked in public about his story.

Jorge2008 (imported) wrote: Wed May 14, 2014 10:09 pm Interesting comment by SplitDik. I understand that you were rich, healthy and masculine looking. So why didn't you just find one or two lovers?

I don't think you quite understood -- I had plenty of access to women who would have sex with me: not only did I have a girlfriend, but also had two prostitutes exclusive (cost $2k per girl per day!) every day for over 6 years. I did everything, watched everything, you can imagine that women can do sexually, and I on average orgasmed up to 10 times per day -- and still was consumed by sex addiction. The one thing I'm glad about is that my tastes were pretty "normal' except for liking S&M. I never was into kids, raping, flashing, eating poop or anything that society generally reviles; but nicely developed adult women drive me crazy -- I could watch them all day and night and never get enough. It was very distracting.

Basically it met true definition of addiction -- I would let it adversely affect my life. I spent a ton of money, I risked disease, I would choose to have sex over other obligations to work and family, and so on.

It is really a terrible trap to be addicted to something inside you -- the drug was manufactured by my own body and mind! It would be like giving a heroin addict a magical bag of heroin that never went empty!

Do I regret having been castrated? The answer would be no. However, do I have regrets after being castrated, yes. The biggest regret is, no erections. I enjoyed a good hard one but haven't had one since. I should note though, I hadn't had a erection for a few months before my castration. As noted by some others, subsequently my penis has shrunk to pretty much just the glans. Also I am not real happy with my bigger softer rear end. Thankfully no breast growth. Based on the fact I have broken two bones, i would have to say my bones are weaker.

Many would ask why don't I take testosterone replacement? First my doctor would not prescribe it based on my family history of prostate cancer and two, the copay is more than I can afford if I did have prescription.

So regrets yes but satisfied is also yes. I love not having testicles hanging there and despite my tiny penis my body looks like I have always wanted.

No regrets. Life has been better since castration because I am calmer and have gained confidence, and ironically I now feel like a complete person. I love being a castrated man.

To SpltDik,

Your responses to my question about regret were very passionate and clearly heartfelt. For a very long time, I have admired your cogent responses on this forum on various topics.

On this topic, you make it clear that you suffered from a sexual addiction. Your revelations that for years you have had the means to satisfy that addiction are enlightening.

You wrote,

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SplitDik (imported) wrote: Wed May 14, 2014 1:55 pm . But my mind was always obsessed with sex, from very early age (by 9 I could barely concentrate in class thinking about sex) and that turned into desire to be free from such urges (which are torture when you don't have any chance of sexual relationship for a decade while battling these urges) which turned into desire for castration. I damaged myself in so many ways. Yet I know that my body (including my genitals) were really beautiful and healthy. But the urge was there, continuous, and severe. I ended up in the hospital so many times with them repairing damage I'd done. Finally a year and a half ago I convinced a girl to inject calcium chloride and that was pretty much it for the balls.

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It is my understanding from your reply here and the subsequent reply later in this topic, that you were aware of your addiction. Your solution to the problem of addiction was castration. In your case it was with calcium chloride injections into the testicles.

I take it that your testicular function was destroyed over time, over the course of a year or so, because you seem to indicate that you are feeling better and are less controlled by your urges.

It is interesting to me that you didn't go to a physician to get prescription of anti-androgenic medication that would have reduced your urges and could have functioned as a conditional (temporary) non-surgical, non-permanent castration, but rather, sought solution by "non-medical" means, by getting injections of an uncontrolled substance from a non-medical person, in particular, a woman. I venture to suggest, even, that the woman who injected you was nude, and that the injections were part of a sexual scene and followed by sexual activity.

I am not criticizing. Don't get me wrong. I think it is hot, very hot, indeed. But, I don't think that it is any different than having your balls removed by a non-medical cutter in a surgical castration scene, only that the cutter produces results faster -- once the cords are cut and the balls extracted, it is done. The injection of calcium chloride takes weeks to months and multiple injections to accomplish the results. But, both are done in a sexual scene.

My guess is that many of those "seniors" in this forum that advocate caution also had their testicles removed in a sexual scene and didn't have a "pre-trial" of hormone therapy to see how they would tolerate the castration state.

I don't mind the sage advice by the old guard of this website, but I do object to the hypocrisy. There is too much political correctness on this forum by those seniors who fear EA will be shut down by the invisible overseers.

I did not bother with a hormone therapy (testosterone suppression) "pre-trial" as I had become profoundly concerned about my risk of dying soon from cancer, in the summer of 1986, from a probable genetic condition. At the time of my orchiectomy, my brother had already developed terminal cancer from that condition, not then correctly known or recognized medically; the diagnosis, "attenuated familial adenomatous polyposis" was not in the medical literature until several years after my orchiectomy.

In my view, as a bioengineer and as an apparently decently competent theoretical biologist, I had come to recognize that some sort of genetic cancer factor was at work in my close family and that factor had tended to result in terminal cancer being well-developed well before the first clinical sign of cancer presented itself. It turns out that my grasp of theoretical biology and of bioengineering allowed me to recognize my risk, with "terrible" accuracy, well before any physician recognized it.

I also understood, with about as much certainty as I think may ever be humanly possible, that I was biologically somewhere in the multi-dimensional realm of gender diversity well outside the range that is commonly, socially, deemed normal. What is normal for me may not be normal for someone else.

Have I ever experienced any form of regret regarding my orchiectomy, or how I went about finding a doctor to do it? If so, it surely must have been for much less than an attosecond, in total, over my entire life until now...

I recently learned that the urologist who informed me of his view of how I might find a doctor to do the orchiectomy has died in old age. By doing as that urologist suggested, I did find a doctor, in 1986, and did get a very safe orchiectomy, done with enough skill that I was at work the next day, without any noteworthy complications.

What did I do to find that doctor? Perhaps because of the way in which I have been given to be autistic, I was able to use a grasp of biology that hugely overwhelmed the doctors I consulted, doing that until a doctor agreed to do the orchiectomy. Some folks have described the experience of my providing ever increasing, ever more minute detail, in the pursuit of what I regard as a worthy goal as like "brain frying." Perhaps it is fair and truthful to allow that I was able to so 'brain-fry" doctors with my understanding that they exhausted all the objections to doing my orchiectomy that they could think of...

However, yesterday, as may be noted from my Eunuch Archive profile, and from the fact that my brother died from cancer when he was 50, I seem to be approaching 150% of his life-span.

For that, I am grateful. Being grateful for being alive at my yet-young age, how on earth, or elsewhere, could I ever find a regret about my orchiectomy?

dagmar20040404 (imported) wrote: Mon May 19, 2014 3:30 pm My guess is that many of those "seniors" in this forum that advocate caution also had their testicles removed in a sexual scene and didn't have a "pre-trial" of hormone therapy to see how they would tolerate the castration state.

Then you'd guess wrong.

Get to know some of the "seniors" here before you end up swallowing that foot that's in your mouth.

I back Paolo up on this.

I've seen what happens with "unplanned accidents" and "things went bad" and any other excuse you want to discuss. No one is telling you to be careful and understand what you are doing for any other reason than we've seen that before and we've seen the bad results of it.

There's a very good reason to understand yourself and the consequences of your decision. That includes the tryout before the real things.

In the realm of quantum mechanical physics is something named, "The Pauli Exclusion Principle." It may be stated, with at least ample oversimplification, to be as a plausible fact, that no two of anything can have exactly the same quantum state (please note that my grasp of "quantum state" includes the wave function of a thing from t=minus_infinity to t=plus_infinity. That, for me, means simply, if two things are truly the same, there is only one of them.

In the early summer of 1986, I had concluded, as a best guess scientific theory, that I needed to do a tryout of surgical cancer risk minimization because, for me, the "real things" would have been dying from cancer in the manner of my dad and brother.

Prior to my 1986 surgeries, I had studied the medical literature in such formidable depth and detail that none of the results of my orchiectomy or colectomy were outside the region of my pre-surgical expectations.

Mistaken expectations may lead to disasters. I did my "homework" thoroughly and diligently. Therefore, I went straight to surgeries instead of trying testosterone suppression. It is not all that hard to suppress testosterone without doing an orchiectomy. How does one suppress the function of a pre-pre-cancerous colon without surgery?

While surgery was optimal for me, without using any pre-surgical testosterone suppression method, very few people have forms of familial adenomatous polyposis and the associated appropriate surgery-first life-sparing need that I had.

janekane (imported) wrote: Wed May 21, 2014 12:23 am In the realm of quantum mechanical physics is something named, "The Pauli Exclusion Principle." .

Obviously, in the extensive research leading to your conclusions you have never bothered to read Wolfgang Pauli's original publication or learned anything about quantum theory; otherwise you would know that the Pauli Exclusion Principal applies only to a selected class of sub-atomic particles called fermions; there is another entire class of particles, bosons, that are not affected by the Pauli Exclusion Principal and do in fact occupy the same quantum state simultaneously.

The Pauli Exclusion Principal explains, among other things, the arrangement of electrons around an atomic nucleus and especially the filling of the d- and f-suborbitals. It is extremely useful for accounting for the differences in color of liquid solutions of transition metals like vanadium and the chemical similarities of the lanthanoid and actinoids elements; it is wonderfully powerful for explaining how a muddy green solution of spent uranium salts from a nuclear reactor can be separated into a yellow uranyl-containing layer and a lovely sky-blue layer of plutonium nitrate. It does not have much immediate applicability to the contents of anyone's scrotum.

Do I have regrets? Yes and no. Not that I really had a choice. Testicular torsion ultimately tends to force the urologists hand. So I have no testicles as a result. I enjoy not having balls because after the last one was removed I noticed that they really had been in the way. Now I enjoy the freedom of there being nothing to sit on or crush in any way. I am on Androgel 1.62 but I have found that it is not the same as the testosterone you produce yourself. My testosterone level is at 575 now, but I have erectile and libido/desire issues which I never used to have. Also the copay for the Androgel is very high and I fear that I will not be able to afford it when I retire some day. So, as regards my sex life I would rather have my balls than be on HRT.