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Question for eunuchs
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:18 am
by Alexander36 (imported)
Is it normal for a eunuch to discharge a liquid kind of like orecum ? Would that dry up after the body adjust?
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:33 pm
by micdavi24 (imported)
No, this fluid is secreted by the prostate gland and the only way to get rid of it is to have your prostate removed
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 4:45 pm
by gareth19 (imported)
micdavi24 (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:33 pm
No, this fluid is secreted by the prostate gland and the only way to get rid of it is to have your prostate removed
If we are talking about precum, it is secreted by Cowper's glands not the prostate, but the same principal applies. Removal of the testes doesn't involve removal of Cowper's glands, so castration would not immediately stop Cowper's secretions; however the loss of libido would mean less arousal and therefore less opportunity for Cowper's glands to secrete their fluid.
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Wed Jul 02, 2014 7:50 pm
by Littledick (imported)
Alexander36 (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:18 am
Is it normal for a eunuch to discharge a liquid kind of like orecum ? Would that dry up after the body adjust?
Gareth19 is correct the Cowper's Gland make the pre-cum which excretes the clear fluid that conditions the urethra so it is less acidic from urine, thus giving the seamen a better chance of surviving through the male equipment.
The prostrate also makes a clearish fluid that the sperm swim in that makes the bulk of the cum.
So a eunuch should be able to make both pre-cum and what they call a dry orgasm that doesn't have any swimmers in it unless the prostrate is removed. I have never heard of the Cowper's Glad being removed but I would stand corrected on that point.
Hope that helps.
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Thu Jul 03, 2014 10:34 pm
by nvrgag44 (imported)
micdavi24 (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2014 1:33 pm
No, this fluid is secreted by the prostate gland and the only way to get rid of it is to have your prostate removed
Or have it cooked to a crisp by radiation. Orgasms are still satisfying but not a drop of ejaculation.
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 8:41 am
by ZeuterMe (imported)
High-intensity focused ultrasound would do the same thing, without ionizing radiation. Furthermore, the same ultrasonic energy that's ablating tissue also provides real-time imaging and feedback on the progress of the operation, so you know exactly where to aim the sound, exactly how much to use, and exactly when to stop (in order to avoid collateral damage like cooking the vagus nerve or something).
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:44 pm
by Nestor AEgrotatus (imported)
I thought the prostate and Cowper's gland stopped functioning without testosterone?
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:15 am
by _g (imported)
Alexander36 (imported) wrote: Wed Jul 02, 2014 10:18 am
Is it normal for a eunuch to discharge a liquid kind of like orecum ? Would that dry up after the body adjust?
This is one of those things were "your mileage my very". It depends on the amount of testosterone which you body makes without your testicles, and wither or not your on HRT.
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2014 11:36 am
by Riverwind (imported)
As my Dr put it a couple weeks ago, my T is zero no need to check the prostate. I am going to guess he is spot on.
River
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 1:50 pm
by Kangan2008 (imported)
No T = no output. I haven't had an orgasm or emission of any kind since my surgery nearly 6-years ago. Prostate is still there, but non-functional.
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:52 am
by Woggler58 (imported)
A belated reply, pertaining to nature and quantity of semen after radiation of one's prostate (and its vicinity) for prostate cancer, with or without TRT afterward for low T. Refer to nvrgag44's reply #5 in this thread. I share his age and prostate cancer treatment situation except that I did go on TRT in generous dosage after my T levels fell to 200, post-radiation.
My previously normal white, jelled, fertile ejaculate ceased being emitted at orgasm during the 6 weeks of radiation in daily small increments. A few months after the end of treatments, a small amount of precum-like clear, slippery, slightly salty-tasting fluid would slowly ooze out as the normal ejaculatory pumping action was ending -- about 1/4 teaspoon. No longer was there that chlorine bleach-like odor. Six + years later, that's what still happens at orgasm, which feels as it always had except for absence of thick semen being propelled under pressure through the last inch of my penis's urethra.
I understand that one's prostate gland makes most of the semen volume and that the two tributary seminal vesicles make the rest, which is fed into the ejaculate as a "chaser" to enhance fertility effects within the receiving female parts. It may be that my clear ejaculate is largely from my seminal vesicles--there's a lot more of it than I ever produced as Cowper's gland pre-cum.
Due to possible cancer relapse, in Feb 2014 I had a biopsy which sampled all regions of my previously radiated prostate (in late 2007) plus the right seminal vesicle. Every core had the same favorable diagnosis: There is marked glandular atrophy with cytologic atypia, representing [previous] treatment effect. No residual adenocarcinoma is identified in these biopsies.
I regard changes in my semen from pre-radiation to result from the radiation-induced atrophy of all that wasn't cancerous, and to be irreversible. The fact that there is a pittance of clear ejaculate is how my "milage" varied from nvrgag's.
For those men who instead chose prostatectomy, they lost their entire prostate plus both seminal vesicles, and thus have no supply of semen at all to ejaculate. (Those who hadn't had a vasectomy before will in effect obtain it at the outlet end of their sperm-carrying vas tubes where they are cut free of the parts removed by prostatectomy.) Those who have their prostate cancer treated by freezing or by cooking by ultrasound will have effects similar to radiation's.
It's known that normal prostate size and semen-making function depend on a supply of normal amounts of testosterone. Castrated men will have shrunken prostates and lowered PSA levels for that reason, same as for shrunken penises.
Prostate cancer patients whose primary, cure-intended, localized treatments fail at preventing relapse are the ones for whom whole-body retardation of their cancer's re-growth may be obtained by whole-body reduction of circulating testosterone to 20 or less by surgical castration or by drug-induced means of inhibiting its natural production.
As EA's Jesus posted in another thread a few months back re old men and orchiectomy, about one in 24 men will at some point in their life get to decide which way they will henceforth become eunuchs. (One in 6 men get prostate cancer; one in 4 of those are already metastatic or have it return after treatment and fail any attempted "salvage" treatment. Of that one in 24 going off T, one in 4 will choose the surgical route, hence about one in every 96 men will eventually have no testicles.)
Re: Question for eunuchs
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2014 12:50 am
by Kangan2008 (imported)
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Woggler58 (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 28, 2014 6:52 am
hence about one in every 96 men will eventually have no testicles.)
I think that the average is higher than that, as anyone who has had hernia repairs might also be missing a testicle or two. Dr. Kimmel told me that he had castrated many elderly men who wanted to stay faithful to their (now aged & ugly) wives. Castration would eliminate the desire to have an affair with a more desirable (sexy) younger woman.