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I've been speaking with an SRS physician, Dr. Harold Reed this week about the possibility of having penile inversion surgery while remaining male. He is open to performing this surgery so long as I have two letters from mental health therapists. He has said in his blog that he receives about one letter a week from men who want this modification. The blog entry about this topic was entered in 2010, and as of that year, he hadn't operated on anyone with this condition, so I'm not sure if he has since then, but I aspire to be the first if he hasn't. Its important to me that I undergo this modification without coning my way through therapy. I want to have this operation done by an experienced doctor in the US and as a male. I feel that if I'm able to do this, it would be a door opened to other guys who want this modification without having to pretend to be transgender. I'm curious about how many are interested in this operation and about whether or not I could make a website similar to eunuch.org but for those who specifically have this condition, or if eunuch.org could make a forum for those with this condition.

So I'm not sure if Dr. Reed is serious about his willingness to do this operation so long as I undergo a psychiatric evaluation in keeping with the Benjamin Standards of Care, but my next task is to find two therapists who can understand my situation and who can either talk me out of going through with this by helping me to address some underlying problems that lead me to desiring this modification, or giving the go-ahead to undergo the operation.

And just so whoever reads this understands my situation, I'm a masculine male who loves to work out, I have a blue-collar job and am 28 years old, and I want a vagina. I would like to have all the operations to make it as much like a biological vagina as possible.

I just wanted to share this information to inform anyone interested that there is someone who is making progress in having this done.

Let me see if I understand you correctly, you wish for the testicles and penis to be removed and a vagina built in its place, is this correct? I take it you don't want what would be considered a sex change, as in you still wish to be an outward looking male who happens to have a vagina in stead of a penis. Now the next question, would you be taking HRT, T or E or neither?

River

Genital reassignment only without the rest of the body/mind reassignment, I take it?

No, my penis wouldn't be removed. The penile tissue would be used to form the vaginal walls, the scrotum used to form the labia, and the testicles would be removed. Since I do want to maintain my male physique and don't want osteoporosis, I would take testosterone.

Right! Genital dysphoria, but not gender dysphoria

mverobeach1 (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:42 am No, my penis wouldn't be removed. The penile tissue would be used to form the vaginal walls, the scrotum used to form the labia, and the testicles would be removed. Since I do want to maintain my male physique and don't want osteoporosis, I would take testosterone.

How can you retain a functional penis when the penile tissue is used for the vagina.

I'm seeking to replace my cock and balls with a pussy.

Good idea, but... dealing with mental health therapists is not for me!

User "CastratedMale" did the same thing but by a different route.

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I looked this user up, but couldn't find him. Does he have any threads in the forum about this?

Thank you for posting it. I have been thinking about the same thing. Would love to hear about your progress. Please keep me posted if possible.

mverobeach1 (imported) wrote: Wed Sep 03, 2014 4:42 am I looked this user up, but couldn't find him. Does he have any threads in the forum about this?

My spelling leaves allot to be desired. User: "castr8edmale" and this is the correct spelling. He does have a tribe membership with photos, before (whole) to current state.

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I would also have the procedure done to have a vagina, while outwardly presenting as male, if it were possible without all of the therapy. I once started therapy for gender reassignment surgery but came to the realization that I really wanted to have the surgery to create a vagina but continue living as a male. I am glad to know that there are others. I would definitely be interested if you set up a website for those of us who are like minded.

It would be nice to have a vagina and be able to pass as either female or male as desired.

You are not alone, I have often wished I could have a vagina without having to fully transition to female. I wish you luck in your pursuit and keep us posted on your progress. I would be interested in a website that would be dedicated to men wanting a vagina without fully transitioning to female.

I second that post about man replacing their male parts for female and staying a guy. I bet there are a lot of bottoms would love to have their very own vagina to play with. I know that I would love to have my male junk removed and a lovely love canal in it's place. But unfortunately the medical community is very close minded when it comes to male genitals.

As for websites

Nidaho Rachel (imported) wrote: Sat Sep 06, 2014 7:02 am dedicated to men wanting a vagina without

becoming female do a internet search for Joe The Mangina Man, who was a MTF who went back to being a man with a vagina.

I'm kind of the same way. I'm heterosexual, but I would love to be asexual. I'm a virgin and I never had a girlfriend. I graduated high school in 2012. I've got a medium-sized body and I'm somewhat muscular. I'm not too fat or too thin. I'm not too tall or too short. I worked out a lot in high school for American football. I still work out, but not as much as back then. I would like my body to stay the same or become bigger and more muscular. That's how eunuchs were made in ancient China, by removing their reproductive glands or testes, and their penis as well, by cleaving them from the body with a curved blade. So if you want a vagina or a woman's canal that's totally comprehensible or understandable. What's chief in importance for me is getting my testicles surgically removed, that's what's of main importance to me. I may get my penis surgically removed and get a woman's canal too. I'm twenty-one years old by the way. My birthday was yesterday. Bayshore Plastic Surgery is about twenty-six minutes away from where I currently live. I live with my parents. I just need a letter of recommendation from a therapist and then I can get the procedure done. I've wanted this since my first year in high school.

Hey, I was just wondering if you have made any progress that you wanna share with us. Look forward to it.

NoOne2014 (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 07, 2014 12:17 am I'm kind of the same way. I'm heterosexual, but I would love to be asexual. I'm a virgin and I never had a girlfriend. I graduated high school in 2012. I've got a medium-sized body and I'm somewhat muscular. I'm not too fat or too thin. I'm not too tall or too short. I worked out a lot in high school for American football. I still work out, but not as much as back then. I would like my body to stay the same or become bigger and more muscular. That's how eunuchs were made in ancient China, by removing their reproductive glands or testes, and their penis as well, by cleaving them from the body with a curved blade. So if you want a vagina or a woman's canal that's totally comprehensible or understandable. What's chief in importance for me is getting my testicles surgically removed, that's what's of main importance to me. I may get my penis surgically removed and get a woman's canal too. I'm twenty-one years old by the way. My birthday was yesterday. Bayshore Plastic Surgery is about twenty-six minutes away from where I currently live. I live with my parents. I just need a letter of recommendation from a therapist and then I can get the procedure done. I've wanted this since my first year in high school.

There are of course a few side effects that you should be aware of, bone loss, depression, weight gain, hot flashes. The first three are very real and something that you need to consider before you do anything. Take your time and find out everything you can before doing something that you cannot reverse. Take castration on a test drive by using a castration drug for a year or two even. Find out if this is what you really want, read everything you can from this site, ask 1000 questions and more if necessary. The one thing you don't want to do is make a hasty decision.

Good Luck

River

I so identify with this thread, although I'm realistic enough to understand the difficulty of achieving it. The Harry Benjamin Standards of Care are perhaps the only defensible guidelines (from a legally based, malpractice-averse standpoint) in use by the mainstream medical community in the U.S., and beyond. At the time they were developed, the Benjamin Standards did the transgender community a great service, by codifying practices in a way that is safe for both patient and medical providers. However, as gender identity becomes more diverse, I can see the issues with rigidity, and the need for updated standards. After all, it was only two years ago that DSM-5 replaced gender "disorder" with "dysphoria;" perhaps we're not too far away from seeing something along the lines of "genital dysphoria" as a physiological condition.

As for me, I'm not sure that what I want is even possible, for I desire a penile inversion with urethral reroute, while retaining my scrotum and testicles. I'd imagine the difficulty with this would be that the scrotal tissue would not be available as it is in typical SRS (please forgive me if "SRS" is not the current terminology, and lighten me). But from what I've read of the few men who have written about returning to their cys-male identity after MTF surgery, the neo-vagina becomes more sensitive, and some natural lubrication occurs or returns, once testosterone replacement therapy begins.

Hmm... I think I need expert help, and have come to the right place!

M2F, yes, I understand something of this, and all the best to them. Started with cock, and want a vagina.

M2E, yes, am one, and happily nutless.

M2N, yes, with deference YodaNell and others, I understand something of this too. Started with cock and wish to be dickless. Hope it's good too.

-But there seems to be a curious state above, where maybe one might want a visible pussy -maybe labia, but not a whole transition. This would seem to be a special kind of M2N? Seems that the lips-only surgery is offered in Thailand.

Who would want to be dickless, nutted and with labia? Interesting idea, anyone?

daifu-orchid (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:04 am Seems that the lips-only surgery is offered in Thailand.

Who would want to be dickless, nutted and with labia? Interesting idea, anyone?

This can be attractive for M2Fs too, SRS has a long recovery time, and if one is attracted to females only (no penetration in plans) - then this would work (theoretically). No need to dilate, too...

It feels as an attractive idea at times. But then, if one changes mind in future, there will be problems (no material to make vagina from).

fhunter wrote: Mon Feb 23, 2015 8:31 am But then, if one changes mind in future, there will be problems (no material to make vagina from).

I watched an interesting video on Youtube last night about a woman in Mexico who was born without a vagina. Cells were taken from her body and a vagina was grown from them and then grafted into her body, thus enabling her to have a normal sex life and be able to have kids. Maybe a similar technique could be used in circumstances like this.

surprised that was able to happen in Mexico, she must have been rich.

micdavi24 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:50 am I watched an interesting video on Youtube last night about a woman in Mexico who was born without a vagina. Cells were taken from her body and a vagina was grown from them and then grafted into her body, thus enabling her to have a normal sex life and be able to have kids. Maybe a similar technique could be used in circumstances like this.

Inquiring minds want to know - first, the video URL, and second, if that would work for a male-to-hermaphrodite alteration.