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So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 8:31 am
by SayWhat? (imported)
So many new people! I posted in introductions about my return. My old name was SayWhat and you can find my old posts. Short story is I have been castrated smooth by choice for about 6 years now. I am thinking about a reroute. I know it is not directly related to being a eunuch, however we have a lot of diversity here. Has anyone had a DIY reroute done?

If so could you share how, and more importantly for me does it work well? Does the steam spray everywhere or does it stay in a good stream? I'm not really looking for the sit to pee (don't mind it), but would really like to cum out of a hole between my legs. I love to orgasm while in the wife, I just don't like my cum in her. No I don't want to wear condoms either. Like I said I don't mind sitting to pee, but if the stream is going to be all messed up and spray all over, then I'll wait to have it done professionally.

Please let me know what your experience with this has been. Thanks

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:40 am
by the_blacklist (imported)
Keep in mind that I still have my testicles and scrotum, so my results may differ from your own. A DIY reroute won't be a fully functioning opening after just one procedure. I had to undergo about 3-4 operations before it would stay open enough to properly function. I've since gone through about 12-13 procedures to get the hole to a decent size. And I plan to do further cutting to get the opening to my preferred width.

The urine does go in a nice stream. It can spray a little if you force it out. Unfortunately, standing to urinate may no longer be an option once it is done, so sitting/squatting will become the norm. Standing might be possible without pants and if you spread your legs pretty far, but aiming into a urinal may still be messy.

If you are undergoing a DIY I assume you will keep the original urethral opening intact. If that's the case, you will still get urine dripping from the end (unless you hold your penis shut as I do). You will also leak a little bit of semen, so a reroute isn't foolproof. For me, I keep a foam plug in e reroute to keep semen from escaping out from either opening.

Without plugging the reroute, you should keep small towels handy to place under you/your genitals during sex, or just have sex on easy-to-clean hardwood floors. If you have an orgasm with your legs closed, semen will run down your leg. That, for me, is the most annoying part of having a reroute.

Other than that, I'm glad I had the reroute done. I just wish I could make the opening a lot wider. Maybe then there won't be enough pressure to allow urine/semen to escape out from the tip.

I hope that helped a little bit. I'll gladly answer any further questions you may have about it. Best of luck to you in your decision whether or not to go through with it.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:26 am
by SayWhat? (imported)
Hi Blacklist, thanks for the reply. The method I was thinking of using is to cut a vertical elipse in the "scrotal" (penis) skin down to the urethra. Then I would cut horizontally across the urethra. Then I would suture the urethral edges to the penile skin edges. This should keep it patent. I have an electro cautery so bleeding should be minimal. How did you do it?

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:35 am
by Paolo
You must be quite flexible?!

Welcome back.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:38 am
by SayWhat? (imported)
Not at all. I guess I should have said this would all be contingent on my wife agreeing as she would need to perform the procedure. No flexibility required. The other option (long rout) would be to scar the urethra and cause a stricture. The urologist will usually try to remove the stricture a couple of times, but if it comes back quickly and doesn't stay open they will do a two part urethrostomy. First part is a reroute, second (after several months) they reconnect, but I would obviously opt out of that part. I just really would hate to do that as that area is so well done and healed. The plastic surgeon did a great job making it look natural, it would suck to scar it all up.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:50 am
by the_blacklist (imported)
Through my various surgeries, I also used an electric cauterizer. It does reduce bleeding as opposed to using a scalpel, but you will still bleed quite a lot. Keep in mind that your bleeding will cool the cauterizer down and wear the hot wire out rather quickly.

Do you plan to sever the urethra with the verticle cut? That may prove to be more involved than one would be able to do to themselves on such a hard to reach/hard to see area. Plus you may open yourself up to possible infection with the excess urethra in the penile shaft leading to nowhere. You should do further research into that before severing the urethra.

My first couple of surgeries were with a scalpel and sutures. When the stitches failed to keep the reroute open, I opted out of sutures and just controlled the bleeding in the tub with elevation, pressure and warm water (to prevent shock). But keep in mind that I've gone through so many cuttings down there, that I don't bleed as much as normal people who are just starting out with cutting.

My technique for cutting now is to crush the region with hemostats, use a cauterizer to cut along the crushed area and stop just before the end before bleeding starts. My opening is about 1/4 an inch wide; but if I am able to compromise the scrotum, I could probably get it up to one inch wide.

Don't take this as a how-to procedure. I'm just sharing my story on how I successfully obtained my reroute. But I consider myself a decent authority on reroutes since I've undergone so many cuttings to keep mine and have had a finctional one for 12 years. Be safe, and I hope my information on having a DIY reroute has been insightful to you.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:01 am
by krone1000 (imported)
Do not get a reroute done yourself or a cuter as both leads to complications such as strictures. There have been multiple people who went the DIY route only to undergo multiple reattempts and not get anywhere permanent. They ended up seeing a urologist to get it sorted out which could have saved them a lot of wasted effort.

Please get a consultation from a professional and have it done from someone who does these on a regular basis. Obviously the chance at complications is still there, they're just at a much reduced percentage and if problems come up you'd be in a medical facility with access to the doctor that performed it in the first place.

Dr Arnkoff: http://www.myorchie.com/ - Informed consent type doctor.

Review of Dr Arnkoff: http://forums.eunuch.org/showthread.php ... Dr-Arnkoff

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 8:18 am
by SayWhat? (imported)
Krone, thank you for your opinion. However, I would really appreciate information from those who have experience on the subject. Please go back and read the alcohol injections thread. There were very many nay sayers then, and yet, alcohol injections worked for many of us. CaCl seems to be the newer trend, and again there are many with opinions there without experience as well. I read your profile, and it does not list that you have a reroute or orchiectomy. I'm sorry I sound crass but I am well aware of the risks, etc, I am really interested in people's opinion of the final result of the DIY, and what method they used to get there.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 11:39 am
by Losethem (imported)
DIY Reroute... is it possible? Sure. Is it advisable to do it yourself? Absolutely not. I had my cock removed by a legitimate urological surgeon and plastic surgeon who normally does MtF sex reassignment surgeries and I ended up with a stricture. If you don't know the term, basically it means my urethra was trying to heal shut. I had to use a metal rod almost every time I peed or I couldn't do it. I had to take that rod with me everywhere for 6 months. This resulted in multiple urinary tract infections (UTI's) and ultimately a race to see if I was going to end up in the ER or make it to my repair surgery appointment first.

And this is with my using a legitimate surgeon to have the reroute done.

I'm fine now after the repair surgery, but keep in mind it's not typical to have an adequately functioning urinary opening when you DIY things. I had a friend who recently had a glansectomy with a cutter... same problem I had. His decided to clamp shut while he was an hour into a flight from Australia to the US. 16 hours of agony.

--LT

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 1:18 am
by SayWhat? (imported)
My,

Thank you for your reply. Definitely some good info. Without saying what I do for a living lets just say I have a lot of medical experience just not (I wish it was) in urology. Hence my interest in experiences. Thanks again.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:11 am
by ford_med (imported)
This has been a fantasy of mine as well for many many years.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 2:46 am
by nuderthannude (imported)
The good news is that it is possible to do a successful DIY urethral reroute. Myself, Blacklist and numerous others are proof of that. I have had my reroute at the top edge of my scrotum for well over a decade and have blocked off the last half inch of my old urethra so that nothing can ever exit my penis again. So my reroute better function or else I am in real trouble.

The bad news is that a DIY reroute is not easy to accomplish and comes with risks. I wish I had a nickel for every time someone has tried and failed.

As far as function... I think the size and shape of the opening have a significant impact on the kind of stream one gets. It is easier to get a tight stream from a round hole than a slit and going too large on the opening reduces pressure (kind of like a garden hose with no nozzle). Also, an opening that is too long will probably function more like a subincission and allow the stream to go more forward. My reroute is more of a round hole and my stream normally is tight and goes straight down at exits at a 90 degree angle to my urethra. It is only when my scrotum is tight and pushes forward over my reroute that I either get an erratic spray or it just runs down over my scrotum (I actually like the feel of it running over my scrotum). There is a limit to the diameter of the opening because of the width of the urethra so normally if one wants to make the opening larger they have to open it up it lengthways.

The very best way to accomplish a reroute is to have a round or oblong opening cut and then suture the edge of the urethra to the outer skin. In leu of that the opening must be kept open until it is completely healed (about a month or two). Therein lies the problem. The urethra becomes irritated easily and the usual loop and tube devices are large or rub on cloths irritating the wound and urethra. The pain will become unbearable in a short amount of time and many guys have been forced to abandon the attempt.

I fabricated numerous size "L" and "T" pins that were small and smooth enough so as not to irritate by rubbing on clothing. I also used a dermal punch to enlarge my opening in steps till I got to the desired size. The dermal punch removed chunks of flesh and gave me a round opening that doesn't close. My opening at rest is between 5/16 to 3/8 inch but I can easily slide a sound that is just over ½ inch into it.

While I don't recommend that anyone attempt a DIY reroute one can be had with the proper planning, preparations and precautions.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 8:31 am
by Hash (imported)
Obviously it is possible to do a DIY reroute, but, and that's a big but, what do you want to accomplish. DIY is more complicated, more dangerous, and can lead to a trip to the ER. I think you need to ask yourself, "What do I really want? Do I want to have my wife perform it because it's sexually stimulating? Is she a nurse? Does blood and bleeding bother her? You'll need to have Woundseal on hand just in case, but really, if you want a really good reroute, a urologist is best. I had two operations with two female urologists. I had damaged my urethra, my first female urologist agreed to do the operation and I did not even have to coax her, but sort of messed it up and I was peeing from two holes. The original and the new reroute. The second female urologist fixed everything and took off the rest of my scrotum without hesitation. SO it's up to you. A little damage to your urethra and complaining of obstruction is all it takes. My advice, don't do it yourself. You're not a doctor, your wife is not a doctor. I've had no problems with my reroute. P.S. I think female urologists want to prove themselves in the field and are anxious to get their hands on male plumbing. You have to ask yourself, "What woman wants to become a urologist and deal with male plumbing or sexual problems"? Someone who has an affinity for male plumbing and don't tell me it's because they just want to prove that they can do the job. And sure they might want to enter a mostly all male field to show them that they're just as good as a man, but there's an underlying reason too. Well, that's what I believe and I'm sticking to it.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 9:16 am
by SayWhat? (imported)
Another two good posts. Yin and yang. Let's hear some more! Starting to think that maybe Hash is right though. Hash, how did you cause your stricture? I have stuffed for quite some time and never had an issue.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:13 am
by nuderthannude (imported)
There are still some of us who prefer to be in control of our own destinies. Or should I say the end result. I have not had a single problem with my reroute. If I did I would have been a lot more reluctant about blocking off my old urethra. However, I have heard of several reroutes done professionally where the person had issues that had to be corrected.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 5:30 am
by avalon69 (imported)
How is a reroute usually done? I mean I can't imagine it being done via the NHS in the UK.

I suppose in the US things may be different, is it something you can simply ask to be done? Is there a cost involved?

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2017 8:00 am
by Hash (imported)
It cannot be done successfully by yourself, many have tried and failed. Only a skilled surgeon can perform a reroute that works properly.

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 6:54 am
by Leigh1980 (imported)
Would having an urethral reroute have any sort of negative impacts on future srs surgery?

Re: So now what? DIY urethral reroute?

Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 7:32 am
by Hash (imported)
I never had a stricture, I had split my glans in half and complained that urination was difficult because the urine splashed all over. That's all I told her and she suggested the reroute. That was in New Jersey.