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Due to injury along with heavy CBT play several years ago I was diagnosed hypogonadal with total T of 31 & free T of 4. Yes, essentially castrated as the symptoms no erection, shrinking of my penis & no energy is the reason I sought treatment. Every three months I am required to get a blood test & each time CBC, etc is always with normal parameters. I use cypionate injections. My question is can you purchase cpypionate online? Due to useless blood test every three months I am looking for an alternative. Besides inconvenient, the tests are expensive, considering for years the tests are normal , once a year test would be acceptable, although, when I suggested this to the physician the reply was NO. Aggravated & considering going off T due to the inconvenience the physician is causing.

My Dr. only does annual test now if everything seems normal.

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davidballs (imported) wrote: Thu May 25, 2017 6:47 pm Due to injury along with heavy CBT play several years ago I was diagnosed hypogonadal with total T of 31 & free T of 4. Yes, essentially castrated as the symptoms no erection, shrinking of my penis & no energy is the reason I sought treatment. Every three months I am required to get a blood test & each time CBC, etc is always with normal parameters. I use cypionate injections. My question is can you purchase cpypionate online? Due to useless blood test every three months I am looking for an alternative. Besides inconvenient, the tests are expensive, considering for years the tests are normal , once a year test would be acceptable, although, when I suggested this to the physician the reply was NO. Aggravated & considering going off T due to the inconvenience the physician is causing.

I would get a new physician, as purchasing the testosterone with a RX is very easy. When I was on testosterone i only had blood work once a year with the general physical.

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Injury/Heavy CBT play and your present condition must mean that your testicles are messed up. Did your doctor do an ultrasound? If your testicles are not producing sufficient testosterone, you could consider HCI injections to see if they'll plump them back up and help them start functioning again. Personally, I don't think your doctor is very good. He might be using the blood tests to see if your testicles are producing more "T" but if you're using testosterone replacement, that will keep your testicles from making more testosterone. I can't understand the reasons, go find a female urologist. My experience is that female doctors/urologists are more compassionate in these areas.

You can also purchase "compounded testosterone" in a cream form, from several Apothecaries, Pharmacies, but you'll still need a prescription. The good thing a bout compounded testosterone is that it's cheaper then the "other gel" and works just as good. $50. $60. bucks for a months supply.

https://empower.pharmacy/drugs/testosterone-cream.html

http://www.peaktestosterone.com/Compoun ... erone.aspx

Thanks This is all new to me. Necessity becomes the mother of invention pertaining to I am not going to continue to return every three months for a script & blood work. as you said Once a year should be sufficient. Had not considered bodybuilding thanks for the suggestion.

Never heard of either but I will do some research . Thanks

easier said than done as they all are sprouts from the same branch so to speak & I dislike having to go somewhere else for treatment but may be the only option I have.

as I said. was not using anything previously an total t was 31 and free t was 4. Effectively an Eunuch, which, some may enjoy the calming acceptance of being submissive to anything & everyone but I missed being horny. it was like I knew what a good steak tasted like and wished I could enjoy a good steak even though I was not hungry to steak. same with erections, sex, playing around & orgasms. Missed the experience very much.

Hash (imported) wrote: Sat May 27, 2017 6:02 am You can also purchase "compounded testosterone" in a cream form, from several Apothecaries, Pharmacies, but you'll still need a prescription. The good thing a bout compounded testosterone is that it's cheaper then the "other gel" and works just as good. $50. $60. bucks for a months supply.

I guess the compounding might even be cheaper outside the USA. My 3-month supply costs $97 in Canada. I get reimbursed 70%, or $68, thus costing me out-of-pocket about $10/mo.

eunuchjeff (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:01 am I guess the compounding might even be cheaper outside the USA. My 3-month supply costs $97 in Canada. I get reimbursed 70%, or $68, thus costing me out-of-pocket about $10/mo.

You guys have it easy with getting T, here in Aus, it is very strictly controlled and the doc has to get an authorisation # from a governing pharma body before he can issue a script,. but then the script is good for the initial supply and 5 subsequent supplies. My Axiron costs me A$33.00/month

A bacterial infection destroyed my testes ability to produce testosterone. More on that if you review my blog. I was prescribed Androgel.

Fortunately my medical coverage covered most of the cost; $30 a month, until I enter the drug coverage "donut hole", then the cost jumps up to $183 a month. Last year to save the expense I stopped using the Androgel. I went through what I guess was withdrawal symptoms from Testosterone. My next scheduled blood test indicated my "free testosterone" was at 4. I felt a new kind of calm I had never experienced. That part was nice. My penis shrank and I was not interested or able to get an erection. That part did not bother me, however long term factors like osteoporosis and muscle loss are a concern so this year I will pay for the Androgel.

Due to FAA regulations you can not carry Androgel on an airplane in either carry on or checked baggage. I will be on an extended trip this year that will last over a month. I will be unable to take the Androgel with me. Thus I am asking if anyone knows of any alternate source of testosterone that can be carried on board an airplane.

2deadballs (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:54 am Due to FAA regulations you can not carry Androgel on an airplane in either carry on or checked baggage. I will be on an extended trip this year that will last over a month. I will be unable to take the Androgel with me. Thus I am asking if anyone knows of any alternate source of testosterone that can be carried on board an airplane.

Did something really change in the last 3 years? (This thread on reddit discusses it: https://www.reddit.com/r/ftm/comments/1 ... _security/)

Also, here: https://www.tsa.gov/travel/special-procedures it says that medications are exempt from the limits for liquids.

FAA does not restrict a prescibed medication... I'm on injectable and if I'm going for a week somewhere ... I fill the syringe with my dose and place it in a toothbrush holder and even put in carry on... it just needs in be in a 4 oz container or less. so if you have a pump buy the travel container like shampoo and put some in that...

2deadballs (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2017 6:54 am A bacterial infection destroyed my testes ability to produce testosterone. More on that if you review my blog. I was prescribed Androgel.

Can you provide more information on what the bacterial infection was and what caused it?

Opinions & Self Perception apparently varies per individual for Hypogondalism. Reading your post describing {a new kind of call]. I would describe my emotional state without HRT as Apathetic. Not having the will or [balls] to care even in a contentious situation. Sexually, emotionally I grieved the loss of desire but for a long period of time did not seek treatment. Interesting that in situations where a physical liaison was possible I avoided intimate contact because it did not feel good or exciting even though I remembered the pleasurable intensity of sharing body & soul with someone you care/love. Speaking of penis shrinkage, I too had a lot of shrinkage and after starting HRT i began using a penis pump to stretch my penis for several hours usually three to five hours at thirty to forty five minute intervfals for several month. eventually my penis returned to its original length and I think it may be a little longer. Definitely longer when soft compared to before all this began. for me the greatest difference is energy level and my activity level. the downside if it is a downside is I am horny all the time even when I am drained of fluids and unable to achieve an orgasm , sometimes with great effort have a dry orgasm when releaves the need feeling even though the orgasm during times like that are weak contractions compared to normal orgasmic contractions. so i agrree with you of less needful feeling without testosterone but the desire to be a sexual creature for me out weighs the calm you described . I guess I am mentally hard wired for sexuality due to even with out testosterone I desirer & miss physical sex even though my body was unable to and would not respond to physical, emotional or visual sexual stimulation. Interesting and somewhat unsettling that a few cc's of a hormone each month can affect, actually change a person's mind,emotional choices related sexual situations.

Two things: 1. I have blood work every 6 months. My doctor says that for some reason that is required for renewal. And the prescription is only good for 6 months. I don't mind it because I don't have to fast ;like I do for other meds and I get to do some shopping by myself.

2, I have flown and hand carried my meds, including Androgel (when on it...now on Fortesta) and had no problems. My reason for hand carry of meds is because of temperature restrictions on some of them and in the check baggage, it wold be below the temps recommended....especially on a long flight.

My doctor also told me by U.S. FDA regulation an Androgel prescription can only ve written for 6 months as testosterone is in a drug class of controlled substance because of the risk of abuse and misuse. And the 6 month blood test isrequired to renew the prescription, to document continued need for the drug, to avoid abuse or misuse of the drug.

I have yet to travel by airline while carrying Androgel.

gandalf (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2017 12:50 am Two things: 1. I have blood work every 6 months. My doctor says that for some reason that is required for renewal. And the prescription is only good for 6 months. I don't mind it because I don't have to fast ;like I do for other meds and I get to do some shopping by myself.

2, I have flown and hand carried my meds, including Androgel (when on it...now on Fortesta) and had no problems. My reason for hand carry of meds is because of temperature restrictions on some of them and in the check baggage, it wold be below the temps recommended....especially on a long flight.

nutless1 (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 02, 2017 7:39 pm My doctor also told me by U.S. FDA regulation an Androgel prescription can only ve written for 6 months as testosterone is in a drug class of controlled substance because of the risk of abuse and misuse. And the 6 month blood test isrequired to renew the prescription, to document continued need for the drug, to avoid abuse or misuse of the drug.

I have yet to travel by airline while carrying Androgel.

They generally are not looking for your testosterone. Regardless, if you take it in the box/package that has your name and prescription information on it, they can't do anything about it, at least in the USA. Other countries I cannot speak for, but I had no problem traveling from the US to Canada, The Netherlands, South Africa, and Swaziland with Androgel in my luggage.

You'd think a lack of testicles, noted in your chart, would negate this stupid 6 months to prove continued need. You don't have balls, you'll need testosterone, assuming the goal isn't asexuality.

Regarding flying; I received a printed notice with my Androgel that specifically said taking Androgel on an airplane, either in carry on or in checked baggage is in violation of FAA rules. Most recent trip was inside the USA for 2 weeks so I did not take my Androgel. No particular physical or emotional consequences for that period of time.

Last year I left the country and did not return for 2 months. I was pre scheduled for a blood test following my return. For the first few weeks, no particular problem, but towards the end of the trip I was getting some disturbing physical consequences of no Androgel. The blood test revealed my Free Testosterone was 4. This confirmed to me and my physician that my body definitely is not producing testosterone and I need the Androgel. I am leaving the country again for a month this year and will be checking with my physician to see what, if anything can be done to keep my T level up.

nicefish (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2017 4:20 pm Can you provide more information on what the bacterial infection was and what caused it?

I am not positive what caused it; either an infection in the prostate, or perhaps bladder. In either case it went into my testicles. The infection made them almost double in size, they became extremely painful. There was no particular pain in either the prostate or bladder. After about 2 weeks on an antibiotic, the pain and infection ceased; however subsequent to that my balls shrank, became very hard and numb. Subsequent testing determined that there was no blood flow in them and they were infarcted (eg. dead) and produced no testosterone.

2deadballs (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:03 am Regarding flying; I received a printed notice with my Androgel that specifically said taking Androgel on an airplane, either in carry on or in checked baggage is in violation of FAA rules. Most recent trip was inside the USA for 2 weeks so I did not take my Androgel. No particular physical or emotional consequences for that period of time.

Last year I left the country and did not return for 2 months. I was pre scheduled for a blood test following my return. For the first few weeks, no particular problem, but towards the end of the trip I was getting some disturbing physical consequences of no Androgel.

I'll ask you be more specific. What was the reason given in the note? In the USA the TSA cannot deny you ability to carry your prescribed medication with you. They may make you go through extra screening, but it is not prohibited.

fhunter wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:31 am https://www.tsa.gov/travel/special-procedures

It's my experience a drug prescribed for daily use cannot be prohibited for you to take enough supply with you to cover the duration of your trip. I've never had a problem.

Losethem (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:31 am I'll ask you be more specific. What was the reason given in the note? In the USA the TSA cannot deny you ability to carry your prescribed medication with you. They may make you go through extra screening, but it is not prohibited.

fhunter wrote: Sun Jun 25, 2017 7:31 am https://www

Losethem (imported) wrote: Tue Jul 04, 2017 7:31 am .tsa.gov/travel/special-procedures

It's my experience a drug prescribed for daily use cannot be prohibited for you to take enough supply with you to cover the durat

ion of your trip. I've never had a problem.

Unfortunately I did not keep a copy of the pre printed notice. It was from the mail order pharmacy that I get Androgel from. I will look into it further and ask my physician. Since Androgel is flammable it may not qualify.