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Due to the transgender movement and the internet boys are clearly becoming aware of castration at an earlier age. On those occasions when a boy has asked me about matters pertaining to sex I'm a bit uncomfortable as I'm afraid the conversation might move on to questions about castration.

I'm not sure why this makes me uneasy. I suppose I'm afraid that I might say something that inadvertently arouses the boy's interest or that I might accidently "out" myself by appearing to be too knowledgeable on the subject. For these reason I avoid talking about anything remotely sexual.

Has anyone else had the same problem as I have?

I rather see it as a boy's right to be aware of the effects of castration before his voice breaks. There's nothing special or sacred about testicles or testosterone, and puberty is one of the worst periods of any male's life, with emotional mood swings, overaggressive self-assertion due to insecurity and power fantasies, and general awkwardness - they should know there's another path.

Besides, if it bothers anyone that you're discussing "sex" with a boy, you can kindly remind them that there is no more anti-sexual subject than the complete loss of virility and sex drive. My $0.02 anyway.

@ Atreyu69 and Decimus

In general I don't see a problem to talk with a guy/boy about sex or even castration. It depends on the situation, the mood of both of you. What do you like to tell the boy? Is he eager to know about sex and castration? You can talk with him in a general unpersonal way or in a personal way. It is OK that a boy knows about castration, even in a more personal way too.

But I can understand Atreyu69's hesitations very well too. Although experimenting with Androcur, you didn't take a final decision about a castration. Me too, I was rather reserved and afraid to talk about the subject. On the other hand I wanted also some guys to know about my desire to get castrated. But when I told one it was a relief and understanding that helped me further on = Is that all there is? But I'll mostly will keep it silent for myself, waiting for for the right moment and right person to tell.

Anywhere in the u.s. its illegal to discuss sex with anyone under 18 without parental consent. I'd have someone arrested for talking sex with either of my boys. who knows what motives are in the minds of unknown adults.

Freddyjack (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:34 am Anywhere in the u.s. its illegal to discuss sex with anyone under 18 without parental consent. I'd have someone arrested for talking sex with either of my boys. who knows what motives are in the minds of unknown adults.

It is not illegal to discuss sexual facts and information with people under the age of 18. It is illegal to have sex or commit sexual acts with people under 18 if you are an adult. Schools teach sex education and anti sexual abuse materials at younger and younger ages. Even pre school day care now teaches about the anatomy differences between males and females and good touch bad touch ideas to pre schoolers.

Talking about sexual matters with kids and teens is necessary. They live in the real world, not fantasyland and then miraculously know everything on their 18th birthday. They hit puberty and can engage in sex and have babies way younger than 18.

There is a huge difference morally and legally between answering questions and giving correct factual information verses trying to seduce a young person into sexual activity with yourself or others. That is the legal and moral line to not cross. Giving information is completely legal AND moral to do.

Most parents don t deal well with their own children s sexual urges, growth, and indentities, especially the younger maturers who hit puberty very young. Most kids and teens are not comfortable in becoming sexual in their parents eyes or revealing how sexual they are to parents. Its far easier for most kids and teens to talk and ask each other or older kids, or siblings, or strangers than to ask and talk to their parents about sex.

Its cruel to pretend people are not sexual and don t think and feel before they turn 18. Its every willing adult s job to safely and morally try to help guide under aged kids and prepare them to become adults far faster than most people expect. I hit puberty at age 9. I could father babies at age 9. Its nonsensical to pretend I wasn t a sexual male and a thinking person with questions, feelings, and sexual activities from age 9 to age 18.

I would have loved being able to be sexual with adults of my choice when I was under 18. But I knew it would get them in tons of trouble if I ever did. And the smart ones never would have anything to do with a jail bait under aged kid or teen. Its really a rotten mess for kids to be so denied their sexuality based on an arbitrary age of 18. Some are ready for sex sooner than 18 and can handle it. History and other cultures prove that 18 is too old for most people to become sexual. Most people become sexual far younger than 18. The laws are lacking reality. The age of consent should be lowered to reflect reality and biology.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 7:00 am It is not illegal to discuss sexual facts and information with people under the age of 18. It is illegal to have sex or commit sexual acts with people under 18 if you are an adult. Schools teach sex education and anti sexual abuse materials at younger and younger ages. Even pre school day care now teaches about the anatomy differences between males and females and good touch bad touch ideas to pre schoolers.

Talking about sexual matters with kids and teens is necessary. They live in the real world, not fantasyland and then miraculously know everything on their 18th birthday. They hit puberty and can engage in sex and have babies way younger than 18.

There is a huge difference morally and legally between answering questions and giving correct factual information verses trying to seduce a young person into sexual activity with yourself or others. That is the legal and moral line to not cross. Giving information is completely legal AND moral to do.

Most parents don t deal well with their own children s sexual urges, growth, and indentities, especially the younger maturers who hit puberty very young. Most kids and teens are not comfortable in becoming sexual in their parents eyes or revealing how sexual they are to parents. Its far easier for most kids and teens to talk and ask each other or older kids, or siblings, or strangers than to ask and talk to their parents about sex.

Its cruel to pretend people are not sexual and don t think and feel before they turn 18. Its every willing adult s job to safely and morally try to help guide under aged kids and prepare them to become adults far faster than most people expect. I hit puberty at age 9. I could father babies at age 9. Its nonsensical to pretend I wasn t a sexual male and a thinking person with questions, feelings, and sexual activities from age 9 to age 18.

I would have loved being able to be sexual with adults of my choice when I was under 18. But I knew it would get them in tons of trouble if I ever did. And the smart ones never would have anything to do with a jail bait under aged kid or teen. Its really a rotten mess for kids to be so denied their sexuality based on an arbitrary age of 18. Some are ready for sex sooner than 18 and can handle it. History and other cultures prove that 18 is too old for most people to become sexual. Most people become sexual far younger than 18. The laws are lacking reality. The age of consent should be lowered to reflect reality and biology.

I completely agree with you, especially with your last point. Age of consent laws are totally arbitrary and often tyrannical. But try telling that to most people in a country like America; they will hang you!

Circumcision, laws, morality, monogamy, marriage, and most of the constraints on our masculine sexuality are designed to control and de sex men and boys. The age of consent laws are designed to deny males sex right when our teen hormones and sexual abilities are peaking and awesome. Its neutering by rules and social constraints that harm males in every case.

Yes, it prevents lots of teen pregnancies as its designed to do. But it wrecks all the gay, bi, and non reproductive sex for males by design too. AIDS very conveiniently appeared just as male gay sex was finally getting into full bloom in the US. How conveinient of timing for the anti gay sex forces to kill off that sexual revolution so brutally.

When I was a boy, talking about sex was about SEX and girls. Castration never came into it. I don't know why it would come up unless a specific boy had an interest in it. Much more likely a boy might be gay than looking to be castrated.

I really believe some people on here forget this is a niche community and not routine thought.

Farm and ranch boys are all exposed to castration long before puberty and it doesn t traumatize them. Other boys know and hear about it in the bible stories and hearing the news and stories from other kids. Now the commie government is trying to cut the balls off every kid s male dogs by city codes and boys see those empty dog scrotums every day.

Any boy with minimal observation skills will ask why dogs get their balls cut off at some point in growing up. Its a common practice in pets and all livestock.

Wolf-Pup (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:46 am When I was a boy, talking about sex was about SEX and girls. Castration never came into it. I don't know why it would come up unless a specific boy had an interest in it. Much more likely a boy might be gay than looking to be castrated.

I really believe some people on here forget this is a niche community and not routine thought.

I think it would get around to some questions about castration if a kid finds you to be a trusted source of information and started asking you all the things he s not comfortable asking other people, like his parents and teachers

If the man he s asking is a eunuch or he is gay or enjoys uncommon sexual practices, then the usual kid questions of what do you do ? Think about ? Get personal real fast. And unless you lie in anseering him, you need to answer with age appropriate and safe answers that match his age, knowledge, and maturity as well as give you some privacy.

A good example is circumcision. I was radically cut as a newborn, and there s no hiding or missing it in showers and locker rooms. Any kid who s not blind can see I m very much circumcised. Naturally that leads to questions from the uncut kids and some cut kids. My answers vary based on age and on if the kid asking and the kids hearing my answer are cut or uncut. I don t want any kid to feel bad about being cut or uncut. For young kids, I explain I was circed as a newborn and didn t have any choice in it. The next question is always why did you get circed ? I answer that parents decide and some like the way circed penises look and some like the look of uncut instead. I leave out the lame excuse of it being easier to clean since that s proven bullshit and no uncut kid should ever be told his foreskin is dirty or unclean or ugly. That s usually enough answer to satisfy a young boy. Teens and men get longer answers with more details and that I d prefer to be uncut, but too late for that, and no medical necessity to get circed exists since even phimosis can just be stretched out and solved without cutting off the whole foreskin.

In the case of being gay or a eunuch, it depends on how much you feel comfortable revealing and who is asking and what situation appropriate answer is best for that asker s age and knowledge level. I agree with Ateryu69 that you don t want to start a fetish in a young impressionable mind or distort their concept of what s normal or good. I d just keep the answers general and non personal to keep away from lying or revealing too much by saying, most men, the common thing is, most, usually men, and similar to answer in the whole population instead of you personally. Of course, if you are naked and the kid is looking at your empty scrotum, there s no way to avoid his questions except to either answer him in age appropriate terms or gently tell him to ask his dad. Most dads wouldn t know what to answer about a castrated man his son sees in the locker room showers except it was medically needed. That kid might ask you more detailed questions the next time he sees you naked or dressed.

I've always handled this with if it's a question I'm uncomfortable with, I send them back to ask mom and dad. You can never go wrong sending a kid back to their parent with a touchy question unanswered.

alexsmith (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 8:24 am I completely agree with you, especially with your last point. Age of consent laws are totally arbitrary and often tyrannical. But try telling that to most people in a country like America; they will hang you!

Very true, and they differ greatly from country to country, with the U.S. having among the highest. The reason it's so high in the U.S. has to do with the country's background with puritanical authoritarianism. Unfortunately it's become so deeply ingrained in the American psyche such that even many self-professed atheists (to say nothing of the actual fanatics!) will defend religious rules like the arbitrarily-high consent and drinking ages, and think that suggesting 21 for various things like alcohol, drugs, and firearms (we may need gun control, but equally applied and not based on age discrimination!) is somehow acceptable in a country that gives so much lip service to "freedom." As though it's anything less than tyranny to deny basic human rights to any citizen after they're capable of independent thought. And all this from a society which has the audacity to judge so-called "third world" countries for their own human rights abuses, almost as though berating others is a distraction so they don't have to look at their own discriminatory policies critically.

That a country can allow and even promote a culture in which movies and video games made for young people depict the graphic slaughter of other people to steal their cars and the few dollars in their wallets, and yet consider a film showing a female nipple to be "pornographic" and "unacceptable," will continue to flabbergast and appall me in equal measure. There's a very good reason Europeans tend to look down on us, and it's not because we actually possess the free and open society we claim to.

But I'm derailing the topic, so I'll close with this: Depending on the type of parents, it can be a good idea to refer touchy questions back to them, especially simple things like "the talk," but at some point I believe it does become a moral imperative to provide an answer oneself. This is especially the case if you know the parents and how they'll react. Just to give an example, if a boy confides to me that he's gay or transgender, and I know his parents are going to send him off to some "camp" to "cure" him of his "disease," I'm going to say my peace on the matter and recommend he keep that from them and speak to me or an equally-liberal individual (teacher or school counselor, perhaps) if he wants advice or to get something off his chest. There's a reason why, in Europe and more liberal states, certain aspects a young person's upbringing and education are being taken out of the parents' hands.

I have been the authority on this matter to many of the boys here. All five of "mine", the almost-stepson long before, and his friends, and the main fives' friends. In the case of friends, I require not only verbal parental consent, but also a signed form. I waive the signed for in the case of the boys being dropped off at nephew's home by their parents! Apparently, the boy told his friend that we were having "the talk." Suddenly, three of them show up unannounced!

Now, imagine my shock when I find out that the "runt" of this litter wants to know about gay sex, and that his friend B. wants to try it with him, although he declares that he is totally straight. Well, let's give him 95%, OK? But I had to swear that I would never tell their parents about THAT part of the talk! Then it's off to buy a carton of condoms. Another dirty secret. As it turned out, they'd already tried anal with Mr. 95 attempting to top Runt, and failing. I had to makes sketches. It wasn't that good... so Runt gets online and goes to X-Tube... I nearly fainted.

But I digress.

Seriously, I would NEVER discuss sexual issues without at least getting verbal consent from the parents/guardian in person, and/or the signed form if they didn't drop him off at the house. I do prefer to expect the students, though!

However, once consent is given, I don't hold any data back.

And yes, as Jesus A. knows, and is published in one paper, I had to have the castration talk with Nephew2 and his best buddy, L., who was routinely threatened with elastration by his mother. Yes, he was a farm boy.

One guy in my cite conversated with 7 years old girl about sex... State closed him to prison for ten years! Paedophilia!

Can you imagine if all the adults who talked to us growing up about sex and taught all of us what we know were this afraid to say anything to us and refused to answer our questions or to talk about sex in front of us.

How would any of us have known anything but the time we turned 18. I d have sired dozens of unwanted kids if I was left uninformed and stupid about sex from age 9 to age 18. Plus I d have caught every STD by then too.

That s not protecting kids, its leaving them to learn everything in the worst and most damaging and irreversable ways possible. That s child cruelty to stay ignorant of sex.

When I had mine removed, two of the boys (teens) wanted to know what was wrong so I bluntly told them what was happening. Their response? OH. They hoped all went well for me. I had known them several years (7 to be exact) when this happened. They occasionally asked how things were going for me. Both of them are now married, one is a father both grew up on farms. Want the truth, I did not hide it from the entire church if someone asked. Usual response was that they were glad things were better for me. My daughter was the one that told me I didn't need them anymore.

The problem was excessive pain in them. Pathology report did not discover a reason....or I was not told what happened. On of my relatives, when asked about cancer there said he would die with them rather that have them removed to save his life/.

gandalf (imported) wrote: Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:52 am When I had mine removed, two of the boys (teens) wanted to know what was wrong so I bluntly told them what was happening. Their response? OH. They hoped all went well for me. I ha

d known them several years (7 to be exact) when this happened. They occasionally asked how things were going for me. Both of them are now married, one is a father both grew up on farms. Want the truth, I did not hide it from the entire church if someone asked. Usual response was that they were glad things were better for me. My daughter was the one that told me I didn't need them anymore.

The problem was excessive pain in them. Pathology report did not discover a reason....or I was not told what happened. On of my relatives, when asked about cancer there said he would die with them rather that have them removed to save his life/.

Way to go gandalf ! Really great attitude !

That s the kind of straight forward attitude men should have in talking with male teens. They were going to be grown men soon and genuinely wanted to know and learn about what you were going through. You handled it perfect by not being ashamed or keeping it secret or hiding it from those teens. Now they know to make the best use of their balls for life, like the father who is using his for a man s highest use of his balls, to have kids. Being farm boys castration makes sense and works for livestock all the time, why not do it when men need it done ? They handled it like it was no big deal because you showed them bravery and a mature and factual attitude about it as a role model.

They have told countless other teens and men how well you handled your castration and helped countless other teens and men to think about castration of their own balls as a reasonable thing to do and not worth dying over keeping their balls. I suspect that when facing death or castration, most men quickly realize dead balls are just as dead from dying as from getting castrated. They won t save their balls by dying. Might as well give up their gonads and stay alive.

You are really brave in being open to having your whole church know about your castration. It sets an admirable example for men dealing with any kind of sexual problems for you to show such bravery. And you are also letting other men and boys all see how people treat that knowledge and interact with you with respect and genuine concern for your health.

Men are taught way too much shame about our sexual organs. Naked women in art and media don t cause nearly as much controversy as naked men do. Most women seem to discuss pregnancies and menopause openly with no shame. Men should feel free to discuss male sexual concerns equally without any shame.

Those teens and your whole church and the countless people who heard about you all learned a valuable lesson in true bravery and being a real man about your whole situation.

I forgot to say that this was in a farming and cattle raising community. That might be why there were not any questions about the event.

I did not actually publicize it but answered any and all questions asked by friends and neighbors. No need for shame or embarrassment for having it done.

I had a similar experience with some teen ranch hands that work for me. I had injured testicles that my dr wanted to remove. I said no. When I was going to dr appointments my hands asked why ? I explained my nut injuries and how my dr advised castration. My favorite 17 year old hand calmly said, That sucks.

The other teens just smirked silently at the boss being gelded and I m guessing they likely thought it was fitting payback for being the boss. They offered to save me the dr s fees by cutting me like a bull and doubtless thought it would be enjoying every working man s dream to get to castrate his boss for real. A lifetime achievement to brag about proudly lol.

I told them I d let them know and I d seriously think about it. I d much prefer them or my friends gelding me to a dr doing it. But I explained how I m trying to keep my balls for as long as they can keep working at all.

All of them took it like its no big deal. Just some men get wrecked balls. No shock or fear or much reaction at all, just mild amusement that I didn t mind at all and like I think I thought would be expected if my boss told me the same thing lol.

The archive story Dr.Laura, the treatment, has a teen male character saying exactly what my 17 year old hand said, That sucks. I laughed out loud when I read that story ! Life matching fiction.

I don't hide it and my grand boys have seen me occasionally naked with no balls since the oldest was one year old I know someday they may ask questions but Their dads and myself feel it is better and more normal that way.

Sparkey49,

Yes, having you trying to hide it and seeming embarrassed to be a eunuch would be much more upsetting and disturbing to your grandsons than bravely admitting that castration is part of life for some men and presenting your being a eunuch as ok and nothing to be ashamed or fearful about. I had an uncle who lost a limb in an accident when he was young. It scared all of us as kids but we got used to it and we saw it as reality that some people do get hurt so bad that drs can t put them back together again. It made us all think and act more carefully ourselves. But hiding his missing limb would have been impossible to do. But he d take off his artificial limb in front of us and we all got used to it and we respected him for not being embarrassed or trying to hide it from us kids.

Traveling for work, I stopped at a bookstore. I, of course, headed straight to the sex books section for some inspirational on the road reading materials.

A few minutes later, two high school aged jock types joined me in looking through the different sex themed books. They were talking and showing each other stuff in the books. I ignored them as being jail bait and too young to chase.

One guy points to a page in a book and tells his friend, " This is what ( some friend s name) wants to get done ! Castration ! He says he wants to get his balls cut off as soon as he turns 18 and he doesn t need his parents permission to get it done. What do you think ? You want to get cut like this ? "

His friends says, " I don t know, I like my balls a lot."

The first guy says, " I think its cool ! He really wants to do it ! I m thinking about it ! "

I m debating whether to butt in and say anything, explain what happens when a man is castrated. I decide its none of my business and I should keep out of it. They have mandatory health and sex ed classes in school so they should already know what a man gives up in getting castrated, especially at 18 years old and castrated at the peak of his sexual abilities.

I ask them what are the best gay bars in that area. The one talking about castration says, " we re not old enough to drink. We can t go to any bars. We don t know anything about them. "

I m thinking, too young to drink but talking about castration. How does that make any sense ? But I just said ok and kept reading as they looked at book after book and talking.

Young guys do talk about castration more than people think they do. These guys friend was already eagerly planning his castration. So us grown men need to decide if we speak up and talk to them about it openly or don t we ?

When I was growing up it was a very open family and we talked about anything nothing was taboo my folks thought it was better to get information at home than misinformation wherever. My wife and I raised our kids that way and it will continue with our grandkids (age appropriate of course). I knew about castrations since a very early age from the time I was old enough to carry the jewels bucket(the bucket the balls were put in during castrating calves). Our daughter carried the bucket at 5 or 6 taking turns with her cousins. Kids will get answers somewhere better to have the discussion where there is constructive input!

Paolo wrote: Sat Jun 30, 2018 12:48 pm Now, imagine my shock when I find out that the "runt" of this litter wants to know about gay sex, and that his friend B. wants to try it with him, although he declares that he is totally straight. Well, let's give him 95%, OK? But I had to swear that I would never tell their parents about THAT part of the talk! Then it's off to buy a carton of condoms. Another dirty secret. As it turned out, they'd already tried anal with Mr. 95 attempting to top Runt, and failing. I had to makes sketches. It wasn't that good... so Runt gets online and goes to X-Tube... I nearly fainted.

Paolo it's remarkable that the boys were that honest with you especially the runt considering, how shall I put this, his position. More than once I've had boys ask me to buy them condoms but they're always quick to add that it isn't for anything gay. Nick claimed that he just wanted to see if his dick was big enough to fit into one without it falling off. The very next time I saw him he proudly reported that he was large enough!

My Godson's mother: "Where did this BOX of condoms come from?!" (When cleaning out his room)

Me: Making a quiet exit out the front door...