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Well a very long time ago it was confirmed I have Gynecomastia Tanner stage 3 and a 54a cup. Never bothered me no big deal but now I have started having some mild aches inside the breast tissue and am now a Tanner stage 4 54 c/d cup. In fact my wife has named my titties Georgette and Susan. My specialist says nothing to worry about it's not uncommon so I am not. So what I am wondering is this given I am on a extremely very low dose of Testosterone Cypionate 50mg twice a month how much growth can I expect? Any ideas?

Never2Late (imported) wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:01 am Well a very long time ago it was confirmed I have Gynecomastia Tanner stage 3 and a 54a cup. Never bothered me no big deal but now I have started having some mild aches inside the breast tissue and am now a Tanner stage 4 54 c/d cup. In fact my wife has named my titties Georgette and Susan. My specialist says nothing to worry about it's not uncommon so I am not. So what I am wondering is this given I am on a extremely very low dose of Testosterone Cypionate 50mg twice a month how much growth can I expect? Any ideas?

Taking testosterone should inhibit breast growth. If you want larger, then switch to Estradiol (and progesterone).

It should inhibit breast growth, BUT every type of TRT I have used warn of possible development of gynecomastia. I have some breast development but not enough to require a bra. Bot, often they are sensitive to being massaged. Very nice feeling.

Is replacement T easy to acquire? So simple to just order these castration drugs online, but I haven't seen anything other than " natural remedies" for low T

I am stopping the TRT after my July follow up. Even at the 50mg twice a month level I am on I have anger issues that I never had before. Tiny things drive me crazy starting about 3 days after the shot. I am going to try and have them switch me over so it's covered by my plan.

Irritability can be a symptom of low T and 50mg every two weeks may be keeping you in the zone where this happens.

The half life of most injectables is 2 weeks so you are going from very little T to none every 2 weeks.

Suggest switching to weekly of twice weekly shots (You may have to get less concentrated stuff to be able to do this) and see where that takes you.

There are a few here that are on low dose oestrogen that has been known to help them out also.

I had been on 200 bi monthly and my god it was really ugly temper wise. My MD. then cut me to 100 still really bad. So the next move was 50 better but still very short fused. I think that my levels prior to the castration were pretty much at castration levels as my testes were non functional so my body had gotten use to it. I don't give a damn about getting an erection or having a sex drive I just want my old self back temper wise.

As you are stopping it I would suggest low dose oestrogen.

I am no expert in this but It helps keep bone density and may help with your mood.

Quite a few threads here on the subject.

Never2Late (imported) wrote: Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:08 pm I am stopping the TRT after my July follow up. Even at the 50mg twice a month level I am on I have anger issues that I never had before. Tiny things drive me crazy starting about 3 days after the shot. I am going to try and have them switch me over so it's covered by my plan.

Have you tried injecting more often, such as weekly, or even twice a week? It may be the swings in levels that are causing the problem. Testosterone Cypionate has a half llife of 8-9 days, so you will be down to between 1/4-1/3 your peak level by the time of the next injection.

I will keep that in mind if I ever restart the Testosterone.

ambiguous (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:34 pm As you are stopping it I would suggest low dose oestrogen.

I am no expert in this but It helps keep bone density and may help with your mood.

Quite a few threads here on the subject.

Getting rid of T was great in reducing libido but adding estradiol and progesterone are fantastic mood enhancers. Plus there's some good recent evidence that these female hormones promote memory function and protect against brain damage. I was suffering from impaired cognition with low T, but I feel mentally sharper than in many years and I don't think it's placebo. I've always been good with directions but noticed that I was frequently losing track of where I was but no longer. Recalling names has been boosted too. There's still a lot of research needed in optimizing HRT with estradiol and progesterone in women, let alone men so we are left with doing our own research.

Wow that is good to read notsomanly. I do have some memory issues that arose from a closed head wound that I received back in 2002 in a near fatal head on collision. Maybe that will help if I can convince my Md. to switch me over. At any rate I do not want to use T any more in any way.

I've had breasts from working out pectoral muscles then not working out. So probably not gynecomastia exactly. The mucles have atrophied and I have a handfull! Mostly denser fatty muscle. However I started androcur about 1.5 months ago and have noticed increased size with loss of more muscle. Dont mind them at all and kinda look forward to being feminized.

Definitely notice some swelling under my nipples at no T

also second the general advice of "T should be injected often", if anyone's gonna use it. I do twice a week/every 3 days on test cyp. Only time I notice anger issues is if I forget a shot (which paradoxically, I find missing a shot makes me unusually horny. Who knows?)

Never2Late (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2019 2:48 pm Wow that is good to read notsomanly. I do have some memory issues that arose from a closed head wound that I received back in 2002 in a near fatal head on collision. Maybe that will help if I can convince my Md. to switch me over. At any rate I do not want to use T any more in any way.

having been on "E" more years of my time breathing this planets air than not I am doubtful that estrogen improves memory. Rather suspect that focusing on taking it (the focus part) is what helps improve memory. Now at 61 I'm beginning to notice that memory isn't quite as good as it was when I was younger. And I agree, I have no use or desire to come remotely near allowing "T" into my body. There are many ways to exercise the mind for memory improvement and focusing on any one thing is one of the best exercises of the mind.

anorchid (imported) wrote: Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:06 pm Definitely notice some swelling under my nipples at no T

also second the general advice of "T should be injected often", if anyone's gonna use it. I do twice a week/every 3 days on test cyp. Only time I notice anger issues is if I forget a shot (which paradoxically, I find missing a shot makes me unusually horny. Who knows?)

Its good to finally find someone who was taking T the same way as I do..

However now you have stopped I guess I on my own again... sob ...sob..

Although I did have a break from it last year.

I too have to say that it has not been my pleasure to observe that E improves memory. My experience has been the opposite, or rather that E doesn't do anything in regards to memory at all. I think it's just old age. Damn. I have had some "senior moments" these last few years that just boggle the mine. :-\

GordonGG (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 2:00 am I too have to say that it has not been my pleasure to observe that E improves memory. My experience has been the opposite, or rather that E doesn't do anything in regards to memory at all. I think it's just old age. Damn. I have had some "senior moments" these last few years that just boggle the mine. :-\

I was beginning to have more senior moments and to more frequently lose my sense of direction. My mind is definitely sharper and my spatial awareness has also improved vastly. I've heard about some recent research suggesting that the balance between estradiol and progesterone matters. There's also some strong evidence from animal studies that estradiol can repair of brain damage and protect against brain injury. There seems to be a lot to learn about how to maximize the effect. But I have no doubt that I'm much better off. It's not even close. We certainly do vary a lot, but we're pretty much uncontrolled experiments.

notsomanly (imported) wrote: Mon Jul 08, 2019 1:23 am I was beginning to have more senior moments and to more frequently lose my sense of direction. My mind is definitely sharper and my spatial awareness has also improved vastly. I've heard about some recent research suggesting that the balance between estradiol and progesterone matters. There's also some strong evidence from animal studies that estradiol can repair of brain damage and protect against brain injury. There seems to be a lot to learn about how to maximize the effect. But I have no doubt that I'm much better off. It's not even close. We certainly do vary a lot, but we're pretty much uncontrolled experiments.

All I can say is good for you. As always YMMV.