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I don't know if I'm a male anymore what am I really?

I consider myself male. I'm on E, and no longer have my testicles, nor the sack that they came in. I look male and act male, no way anyone who looks at me would guess anything but male.

It depends on how you present, feminine or masculine!

I am certainly a male, despite I am chemically castrated. A male without or with very very small sexual urges. And I generally do not respond to other people sexual remarks toward me.

Chesleyt (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:27 am I don't know if I'm a male anymore what am I really?

You are a person that has the unique ability of having a choice.

ambiguous (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 6:50 pm You are a person that has the unique ability of having a choice.

Having a choice is illusive in most cases. If I had a choice, I would have chosen to be an ordinary hetero male without a desire to become an eunuch.

We were all males for years as young boys before our balls dropped and we finally started making sperm and gaining our first sexual urges and abilities to grow into full men.

I think once our brains and bodies are flooded with all that testosterone for years, we stay men, balls or no balls. Our bodies keep most of the bone and structural masculinization from puberty that can never be reversed. You re a man from puberty on fellas !

Chesleyt (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 01, 2019 11:27 am I don't know if I'm a male anymore what am I really?

Your question isn't just about physically having testicles. It's also about position and status in society and in many ways, the power that myth has instilled in a man's balls.

Sometimes looking at different situations with the same implications can shed light on a subject.

-- Is an adoptive parent "still a father"? Say he married a woman who had a young child. The child's biological father was still around but, absent from the child's life. The new husband adopts the child, cares for her, makes sure she has a home, food, education and love. Then on her wedding day, she wants her father to walk her down the aisle. Is she going to ask the man that parented her whole life or the man who she rarely saw her and who took little interest in her upbringing? Is the adoptive father "still a father" on that day?

-- A woman who loses her breasts to breast cancer. She's been a loving daughter, daughter in law, sister, niece, aunt, wife, mother and nurturing woman her whole life. Then, she beats cancer but, loses both breasts. "Is she still a woman"?

-- A solider who trains and serves his country and loses a leg in battle. After rehabilitation in the hospital, he returns to active duty as an instructor and as an advisor for military missions. His fitness to deploy into action is very limited. Is his contribution less or perhaps in some cases is his experience more valuable in training and planning? "Is he still a solider?"

-- A doctor who spent 4 years earning her BS with a major in biology. Then 4 years in medical school to earn her MD. After a year as an Intern and 2 years as a resident, she does her fellowship for 3 years and receives a license to practice medicine from the state. Ten years later, she makes an error which results in the death of a patient. She agrees to give up her license to practice medicine. It's a huge blow to her ego. Nonetheless, she gets hired as a medical researcher at a pharmaceutical company. She still has an MD and a degree in biology. The only different thing is she can't see patients nor write prescriptions. " Is she still a doctor ?"

So? Is a male who lost his testicles still a male?

The fact that you asked the question means the answer is yes. You are a male. If you had had your testicles removed because you wanted to be female, you'd never have asked the question.

I look like and act like a male. I am a father, brother, son, boyfriend. I have a penis but no testicles. I consider myself a man. Lacking gonads, I am no longer a male in the true description. For me its like when a bull becomes a steer, a stallion, a gelding, etc. My chromosomes determine that I was a human male from conception, that can never be changed.

Having balls or overies do not make a man a man or a woman a woman, it all depends on the person inside

A eunuch friend has put as, "I'm no longer a man, but I will always be male.". It's perhaps a subtle distinction, but it kind of makes sense. Obviously it all hinges on how we define words. If a man's manliness is defined as sexually aggressive, able to father children, able to build large musculature, things that are testosterone-fueled, then without balls we don't have that. Of course, supplemental T can bring that back, in which case the lack of balls only affects fertility.

On the other hand, some of us choose to have no testosterone, and supplement with estrogen. We may choose to have no sexual ability or desire, will be obviously sterile, have limited body strength potential. Depending upon how one defines "being a man", if it depends on those things, then we simply are not. We are something else. Still male, but perhaps not "men" by such a definition.

On the other hand, maybe a "man" is one who has courage, strength of conviction, stands up for his family, stands up for what he thinks is right. Responsibly providing for those he loves, contributing wherever he is, however he can. By *that* definition, I think many eunuchs are fully men. Could even be considered more bold, having the courage to make a physical change that would be unthinkable to many, to achieve their vision of who they are!

A lot of males with balls arent men

Wow so many great answers I am glad I didn't start this thread.:thankyou

I am a male but no longer feel like a man even with TRT

Hmmmmmm

I view the terminology the other way. A eunuch is not male, but can still be a man. One being the physical "male" and the other mental "man"

As someone said, there are plenty of guys with balls that aren't MEN.

Man to me being a way you carry yourself in society, doing the right thing..etc

Although I also think it is all just labels...you are whatever you feel you are or aren't. Some want to present and be seen as guys, others as women, and others as androgynous...you can present one way and feel differently internally.

I don't feel like either anymore just lost

I mentor young males to be men. Most often the boys who dont have good role models. I teach the responsibility of manhood, not 'malehood'. They are already males but some do not know how to behave like men. Being a eunuch makes no difference to my role as a man. I'm still exactly the same person I was pre castration. I simply have no nuts. I'm not pretending I'm something I'm not. I am who I am. It is society that perceives the acceptable role and conduct of a man.

Chesleyt (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:16 pm I don't feel like either anymore just lost

I don't think it matters what you or anybody thinks you are. Way more important to just "be", and in control. You want to feel more male, or masculine? Do it! Find what you did growing up. Run away if you need to! Cause pain, bite stomp toes whatever! Your not a kid anymore, take the wheel, study the tarot.

This is major recurrent issue for many here. My veiw, after being socialized and raised as a slave girl in a feminist utopia, I am not male...I am a jinni. Or as Google just tried to correct....a Minnie. Or Whatever.....wait till you want to flush your POS man down the toilet.....scary...oh your a man now! LIVE IT! Kill IT!.....and maybe get laid find your stud...being a man or male is a license to dream, to become whatever and be that! Don't go crazy....just walk right into the next thing! Take control of time, you are sexy, fun, original and desired....trust me no one is buying the BS their selling as entertainment.

What did the ancients do to control masculinity? Answer that and you will be spiritually connected, whole, connected and prob horny yes HORN E as hello! Go find your stud.

This is why accepting an "identity" is so harmful. You become an annointed freak and its like a Hollywood. Life....Not Healthy!!!!Bob Dylan told them to go F themselves. The Beatles wrote a song about it. You go rediscover yourself now.

No More Tears,

chilli

Honestly, since gender is a spectrum, I think it is up to the individual to decide whether or not they are still a man once they become a eunuch. I now consider myself less of a man than I used to be and more nonbinary. There are plenty of enbies that are becoming more vocal, and many states are now recognizing those who do not fit into the black and white gender binary.

I'm the right normal kind of man now. A moderated man. Testosterone levels should be low in men. Many experts agree with this. You don't need much testosterone to father children and have strength. Too much testosterone is unnatural in men and turns them into freak shows with too much sex drive and aggressive behavior. Men were never meant to be that way. Biggest myth ever. Very abnormal.

I prescribe to the notion a man presents as a man and a woman presents as a woman. if a man in a dress stops at a door, I'll open it

In the past I've struggled to come to terminology as to what I am now, following my unmanning over five years ago. I'm a eunuch. I'm still a male, but not having testicles, I no longer am a man, by definition. Being cut does affect one's sexuality in various ways; however, I still am a male.

mattman59 (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:53 pm I'm the right normal kind of man now. A moderated man. Testosterone levels should be low in men. Many experts agree with this. You don't need much testosterone to father children and have strength. Too much testosterone is unnatural in men and turns them into freak shows with too much sex drive and aggressive behavior. Men were never meant to be that way. Biggest myth ever. Very abnormal.

During most of human history, few lived beyond 40, so menopause in women corresponded roughly to the same period when men were alive and able to reproduce. I agree that modern men who live past 40 don't really need testosterone and it frequently means that their desire for sex becomes greater than their female partners (whole different story for gay males of course). Unfortunately having enough testosterone to sustain sex drive in our later years is natural, but made maladaptive by our long life spans. As a man still very much in love with his now postmenopausal wife, having very low testosterone and maintained on female hormones feels perfect for me. I see myself as an improved version of a male.

notsomanly (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:32 am During most of human history, few lived beyond 40, so menopause in women corresponded roughly to the same period when men were alive and able to reproduce. I agree that modern men who live past 40 don't really need testosterone and it frequently means that their desire for sex becomes greater than their female partners (whole different story for gay males of course). Unfortunately having enough testosterone to sustain sex drive in our later years is natural, but made maladaptive by our long life spans. As a man still very much in love with his now postmenopausal wife, having very low testosterone and maintained on female hormones feels perfect for me. I see myself as an improved version of a male.

Oh how true. I'm the same way with my wife. I feel much more "human" now, no more maddening sex drive.

notsomanly (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 3:32 am During most of human history, few lived beyond 40, so menopause in women corresponded roughly to the same period when men were alive and able to reproduce. I agree that modern men who live past 40 don't really need testosterone and it frequently means that their desire for sex becomes greater than their female partners (whole different story for gay males of course). Unfortunately having enough testosterone to sustain sex drive in our later years is natural, but made maladaptive by our long life spans. As a man still very much in love with his now postmenopausal wife, having very low testosterone and maintained on female hormones feels perfect for me. I see myself as an improved version of a male.

Actually, it's a myth that there were not a lot of older people in the ancient days. While on average the lifespan was much lower, your chance of living a long life were pretty good if you made it past childhood. http://www.bbc.com/future/story/2018100 ... -longevity