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Back pain
Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:50 am
by Cseriess (imported)
I have been trying to think how this happened. I am a fit, active guy. Several months ago I was just getting ready to go out and I bent over to pick something up and sneezed. It was like being hit in the hip bone with a pick axe! Several days in bed barely able to move, visit to the Dr, strong pain meds and a week of work. The pain has always remaind, but usually to unnoticeable. Levels. working with a physiotherapist now. At the same time I have had testicular pain in my right testicle. Up into abdomen like stich, and down my thigh. I know, I know! Lots of warnings on here about it, but I sometimes play with a bander. The day I had that first attack of pain, I had been banded for about 30 minutes. Recently I had the desire ( i would call it an emotional, mental and physical need) to be banded. The next day the pain in my back was as bad as that first attack. After doing some house painting this week, no banding, the pain in my back is back. The pain in my right testicle is also back. My question is, does anyone know or think this back pain could be caused by damage from the banding to a nerve, o,r as my physiotherapist says, I have a common back injury from sneezing whilst bent over.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:26 pm
by Arab Nights (imported)
I am dealing (I think) with a combination of sciatica and leg muscle issues. I am 72 and it seems 'too short leg muscles' are another blessing of age. Nine months ago I rolled out of bed and suddenly in excruciating pain could only crawl to the bathroom. Nobody seems to know for sure the cause. Probably from a chiropracter who peddles aggressive use of a foam roller. Probably it was the roller which caused a massive muscle strain from my rib cage to my knees which pulled my spine out of whack. I have spent 9 months and thousands of dollars on people who said they could help and couldn't. Nothings works but I am slowly getting better. I think I have two issues. One is sciatic nerve. Part of the problem is nerves. It feels like I have a current running thru a small wire in my lower back-gluts-upper leg area. The other part is muscular. It feels like my muscles are too short. Literally. If any of this sounds familiar, I'd be glad to send you some observations.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:46 pm
by chilliwilli (imported)
I would demand physical therapy from my MD. You will prob get a TENS unit for the siatica and acute back pain. Next comes one on one with a physical therapist for stretching and strengthening....
Lets get physical, physical....I wanna get physical, physical therapy....and screw the mental health, psychosexual therapy that's for the birds IMH(non professional)O
chilli
Re: Back pain
Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2019 2:38 pm
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
Cseriess (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 04, 2019 12:50 am
I have been trying to think how this happened. I am a fit, active guy. Several months ago I was just getting ready to go out and I bent over to pick something up and sneezed. It was like being hit in the hip bone with a pick axe! Several days in bed barely able to move, visit to the Dr, strong pain meds and a week of work. The pain has always remaind, but usually to unnoticeable. Levels. working with a physiotherapist now. At the same time I have had testicular pain in my right testicle. Up into abdomen like stich, and down my thigh. I know, I know! Lots of warnings on here about it, but I sometimes play with a bander. The day I had that first attack of pain, I had been banded for about 30 minutes. Recently I had the desire ( i would call it an emotional, mental and physical need) to be banded. The next day the pain in my back was as bad as that first attack. After doing some house painting this week, no banding, the pain in my back is back. The pain in my right testicle is also back. My question is, does anyone know or think this back pain could be caused by damage from the banding to a nerve, o,r as my physiotherapist says, I have a common back injury from sneezing whilst bent over.
I ve heard drs claim that establishing pain signal pathways can lead to chonic pain that is very difficult to treat or cure.
Its possible that your banding super stimulated pain nerves that originate up in men s abdomens, where our testicles formed as infants in the womb. The testicles drop down into the scrotum before birth in most males. But our testicle s cords and nerves and blood circulation stay attached to our bodies way up inside the abdomen for life. That s why getting hit in our balls and ball busting pain travels up inside our abdomen to where our balls tie in to the rest of our body.
Banding pain might have stimulated other pain nerves inside your body in ways that are not understood.
I can t imagine there is no connection when banding clearly triggers those other pains in your body. There must be a connection somewhere. The pains feel too similar and occur too related to your banding to be unrelated.
Drs sometimes use strong pain killers to attempt to break or prevent the original formation of chronic pain pathways. Once those pain pathways are firmly established, they can be triggered into pain with less and less stimulation needed to create more and progressively more pain in some people.
Do you think you can satisfy your banding desires and goals with less painful ways of playing with your balls ? Trying that might stimulate your back pain less than banding seems to do.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 6:32 am
by Freddyjack (imported)
Arab Nights (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 05, 2019 1:26 pm
I am dealing (I think) with a combination of sciatica and leg muscle issues. I am 72 and it seems 'too short leg muscles' are another blessing of age. Nine months ago I rolled out of bed and suddenly in excruciating pain could only crawl to the bathroom. Nobody seems to know for sure the cause. Probably from a chiropracter who peddles aggressive use of a foam roller. Probably it was the roller which caused a massive muscle strain from my rib cage to my knees which pulled my spine out of whack. I have spent 9 months and thousands of dollars on people who said they could help and couldn't. Nothings works but I am slowly getting better. I think I have two issues. One is sciatic nerve. Part of the problem is nerves. It feels like I have a current running thru a small wire in my lower back-gluts-upper leg area. The other part is muscular. It feels like my muscles are too short. Literally. If any of this sounds familiar, I'd be glad to send you some observations.
Prior to your injury, did you carry your wallet in your back pocket? A common cause of sciatica
Re: Back pain
Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:02 am
by Cseriess (imported)
I ended up in the emergency room because of the pain. X-rays, cat scan and they diagnosed it as muscular skeleton. I have been
So will see how it goes.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:43 pm
by chilliwilli (imported)
Cseriess (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2019 10:02 am
I ended up in the emergency room because of the pain. X-rays, cat scan and they diagnosed it as muscular skeleton. I have been
So will see how it goes.
I injured my back prior to joining the service. Of course kept quite about that as well as the drugs and sexual escapades. Anyway, multiple Drs in the service did....nothing. After over 10 years of pain, and now working in the field, a wonderful ER doc sent me to physical therapy. There I learned how to care for and strengthen my back.
You got your back, figure it out.
chilli
Re: Back pain
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:16 pm
by Arab Nights (imported)
chilliwilli (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 9:43 pm
I injured my back prior to joining the service. Of course kept quite about that as well as the drugs and sexual escapades. Anyway, multiple Drs in the service did....nothing.
chilli
You are supposed to do stretching exercises before working your way thru the Kama Sutra in one sitting, as it were. They couldn't even do anything for the rug burn on your knees?
Re: Back pain
Posted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 11:45 pm
by chilliwilli (imported)
Arab Nights (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 07, 2019 10:16 pm
You are supposed to do stretching exercises before working your way thru the Kama Sutra in one sitting, as it were. They couldn't even do anything for the rug burn on your knees?
Not at all...OMG being in a state of pure bliss the whole while, burns on the knees were of no concern.
chilli
Re: Back pain
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:21 am
by Cseriess (imported)
Just thought I would update on this. I have had the same point of pain in my back since that first after banding incident. Same right testicle pain radiating into my groin, leg and back. Had inguinal hernia surgery that caused some long lasting testicular pain bruising and swelling in my right testicle beginning of this year. Anyway, I started cycling again recently, and I just realized the pain is significantly reduced! I wonder if the pressure on my perineum affects the nerves in my testicles and back?
Re: Back pain
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:36 am
by kristoff
Cseriess (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:21 am
Just thought I would update on this. I have had the same point of pain in my back since that first after banding incident. Same right testicle pain radiating into my groin, leg and back. Had inguinal hernia surgery that caused some long lasting testicular pain bruising and swelling in my right testicle beginning of this year. Anyway, I started cycling again recently, and I just realized the pain is significantly reduced! I wonder if the pressure on my perineum affects the nerves in my testicles and back?
Sounds like some of the back problems have/had. I went to a neurologist. He ordered an MRI. Current situation removing a disc, releasing the nerve to leg and thigh and hip, and then fusing L4 and L5 (lumbar portion of back).
Looking forward to a release from pain. Catch is I have to wait until 9 September.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:57 am
by DesperateGirl (imported)
I agree with chilliwilli about self management of back problems if possible. When I was 17 (on a Saturday job) I slid down some stairs with a heavy load in my arm jarring my spine and slipping a disc. Since then I have had periods of slipped disc but I learnt from a company physiotherapist a few years later some exercises to stretch and strengthen the area so the discs could re-align again.
As I have got older (and coinciding with my T reduction) I started getting unexpected slipped discs again. Following these exercises I can usually get back on track within a couple of days.
So look after your back as trapped nerves in the lower back area can cause intense pain. Cycling may be loosening up the muscles and releasing a trapped nerve. Just my ramblings.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 1:21 am
by GordonGG (imported)
kristoff wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:36 am
Sounds like some of the back problems have/had. I went to a neurologist. He ordered an MRI. Current situation removing a disc, releasing the nerve to leg and thigh and hip, and then fusing L4 and L5 (lumbar portion of back).
Looking forward to a release from pain. Catch is I have to wait until 9 September.
Sorry to hear that you need such extensive surgery, but on the other hand I understand pain and hope and pray that it will alleviate your suffering.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:02 am
by zeebster (imported)
Cseriess (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 12, 2020 12:21 am
Just thought I would update on this. I have had the same point of pain in my back since that first after banding incident. Same right testicle pain radiating into my groin, leg and back. Had inguinal hernia surgery that caused some long lasting testicular pain bruising and swelling in my right testicle beginning of this year. Anyway, I started cycling again recently, and I just realized the pain is significantly reduced! I wonder if the pressure on my perineum affects the nerves in my testicles and back?
As a retired FireFighter/Paramedic, I've had back issues for many years courtesy of handling patients in unusual positions and getting them out on stretchers.
I had normally been able to take care of my back pain by seeing a chiropractor. My parents always used one and I'd been seeing one since I was a kid. On the fourth occasion that I had a injury, my chiropractor saw me a number of times and finally told me I needed to see an Orthopedic Surgeon. So I got hooked up with one of the many OrthoPods in our area, most of whom I knew from being a Paramedic for twenty years.
I saw him for three months all the while undergoing physical therapy. At that point, he said there was nothing else to be done. I was still wearing a low back brace and my back hurt all the time. When I asked if there was anything else that could be done, he said; "you're just going to have to learn to live with it".
So I went to see a Chiropractor that my parents had been using, but other than that I did not know him. He did a few X-rays and had a consultation with me. He recommended that I see him three times a week for six weeks, then four times a week for six weeks then once a week for six weeks. I'd always been leery of the multiple visits thinking it was only a money making deal, but he offered me quite a discount if I paid in advance in cash. I had nothing to lose and Workman's Compensation would not be paying for a Chiropractor after I'd seen an Orthopedic Surgeon.
After four weeks of going three times a week, my back quit hurting and I was able to get rid of the brace. After six weeks of three times a week, it felt good as new, but he warned me not to stress my back for awhile. Four weeks into the twice a week visits, I would never have known I had an issue but I had to quit at that point as my ex informed me that she wanted a divorce.
None the less, I've been pretty much pain free since then and that was twenty five years ago. Things do get out of whack occasionally but I know immediately if I need to go see my Chiropractor. He fixes it and I'm good to go again. I only see him maybe four times a year now, but my back pain is not an issue anymore.
Don't know if this story is of any interest to you, but thought I'd offer my experience.
Good luck.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Wed Aug 12, 2020 8:31 am
by Arab Nights (imported)
Zeeb. I have found some relief - not total yet - from a chiro who does the multi-visit thing. The explanation is something like this. You know how you need adjustment every time you go. It used to be that one leg was lower than the other. Every time. You get adjusted and the body slips back to its bad habit. The guy I am going to does not do a full adjustment. You go in, he runs a heat sensor up you spine, quickly adjusts you and out the door you go. His rates per adjustment are lower. The idea is you re-adjust and re-adjust until your body gets the picture.
I had a referral from a neurologist to a real good spine surgeon at a respected institute in Phoenix, but it seems medical science cannot master a simple referral. I have intervened three times when there was a glitch and it stilll was astray when COVID hit and now I have no interest in a major hospital. I am really torn. I am doing chiro, yoga and progress is glacial but there is progress. Surgery is instant, but I hear there is still about six months of getting to full recovery.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:54 am
by devi (imported)
Extreme hot wings until your hair feels like it's standing on end, then celery and dressing chased down with an ale or two used to fix my backaches and other aches before.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:36 am
by gandalf (imported)
I found that by losing some weight sure helped get rid (or at least ease) my lower back pain. I have been diagnosed with arthritis in my lower spine and extra weight did not help it. After dropping about 15 pounds, I don't have as much pain. Diet and watching the amount of fat I eat has helped me.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:56 pm
by Cseriess (imported)
gandalf (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 9:36 am
I found that by losing some weight sure helped get rid (or at least ease) my lower back pain. I have been diagnosed with arthritis in my lower spine and extra weight did not help it. After dropping about 15 pounds, I don't have as much pain. Diet and watching the amount of fat I eat has helped me.
Thanks Gandalf. I am actually reasonably slim. 5'10" , 145lbs.my right testicle aches today and so does my back. I did start 50mg of Androcur again this week though and that often makes my testicles ach.
Re: Back pain
Posted: Wed Aug 19, 2020 1:20 am
by kristoff
Cseriess (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 18, 2020 10:56 pm
Thanks Gandalf. I am actually reasonably slim. 5'10" , 145lbs.my right testicle aches today and so does my back. I did start 50mg of Androcur again this week though and that often makes my testicles ach.
Such pain is often related to low back issues. The nerves which control your area, as well as legs, exits the spine at L3,4,5. You may have a disc out of place and pinching the nerve. Recommend seeing a neurologist or orthopedic specialist. Chiropractic may also help to at least temporarily reducing pain.