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Hi, I have been silent to this point about my long-term fantasy of castration. I have spent several months learning of various ways of castration and the pros and cons.

I have chosen the burdizzo and after tomorrow will be prepared with all the things needed to do so, i.e. clamp, novacain.... I plan to do it very soon. However, before doing so I am curious to hear from anyone that has been castrated with a burdizzo by someone else doing the clamping or done yourself? I would like to read about your experiences so that I am prepared as much as one can be to have an uneventful procedure.

I would also like to hear from those that have been castrated and know more about life after castration and what your feelings are now about castration.

The burdizzo method is not quite as nice and simple as it sounds. The first problem is that burdizzo's are intended for herd animals. Such animals have much more brittle vascularity to the testicles which can be crushed permanently. Human testicular vascularity is much more resilient.

However, people have been successful using the burdizzo. But it is not painless. Recently Plik used the burdizzo on himself, read his postings at:

http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthr ... eadid=1810

Thanks for the reply. I read plik experience and frankly that is what concerns me. I do not want to go through a bad experience. I am sure it is difficult to avoid even taking all the precautions possible. On the other hand I am very excited to do this or maybe have it done very soon.

If I recall correctly I read one of your posted replies that you had done both burdizzo and surgical. If I recalled that correctly, how did your experience go and what did you do to prepare and assure the best possible outcome? Do you know of anyway to assure the cord is crushed? I had read that one person actually felt the cord severed during the clamping, do you know if that is common or a problem?

I did receive an email from a person that did this and on several others and all went well...I only hope mind does too.

Hi Cast,

If you haven't already gone ahead and tried using the burdizzo method I would strongly urge you to reconsider. My experience with it has been really unpleasant. If their is anyway you can go to Dr. Kimmel or another medical doctor I would highly recommend going that route.

I will share a few things I think I have learned from my experience trying to use the burdizzo though.

Be very careful of you use lidocaine or lidocaine with epinephrine. Remember epinephrine is a vasoconstrictor which means that it will close blood vessels and can cause gangrene. Also - if you aren't familiar with how to inject lidocaine it can be deadly. It is very important that you never inject it directly into a vain or artery (you could die if you do!!!). You should always pull back on the syringe to see if you draw blood - if you do remove the needle and try again in a different spot.

When I tried the first time I only clamped each cord once for about 20 seconds each. In my case I don't think this was sufficient to cause anything more then a shit load of pain for about 2 weeks. After 2 weeks I tried again - this time leaving the clamp closed for roughly 30 seconds. I wanted to do a second clamping on each cord but swelling made it practically impossible.

If for any reason you actually decide to do this method (again I really would recommend finding another way) be sure to clamp at least twice on each cord for at least 30 sec or so - doing it several times over the course of a month is a really bad idea and really prolongs the pain and discomfort.

In my case I didn't feel the cord snap or anything like that.

Be careful whatever you do and really consider finding a way to have it done by a doctor.

best wishes.

plik

Hi cast if i where you i thank i would listen to PLIK he went through a lot of pain and he still had to go to the doctor. I thank a better way mite be to try depo provera or androcur to see if castration is what you realey want. After about six monthes you should have a good idea if it is rite for you. Then see DR KIMMEL it would be a lot safer good luck.

Sag111 how can I get depo provera or androcur as you suggested. I have given it some thought until I can aford it financially I would like to go the chemical route. Thanks for the advice from everyone! I have found this board helpful!!!

Cast

CAST i am glad you though it over .With the chemical castration you can always change your mind .Rember you may not like castration for real but with chemical castration you can always change your mind. I have been on depo provera for five monthes now and i love the fact that i now control my sex drive instead of it contoroling me. I ordered my provera from ANAGEN.NET some people say this is not a good pharmacy though. If you go back in the archives to page fifteen and look for post titled thinking of anti androgens that was posted 5-10-02 you will find a list of pharmacies to chose from.Also listen to what others have ordered from . One is www.inhousepharmacy.com i have heard good reports from the people who use them. Iwent with provera becaus it was cheper and since than i have convinced my doctor to prescribe it so i dont have to order it any more maby your doctor could be so kind to you . Several members use androcur i think this is a better drug but in my cace it was to expenseve.Anyway good luck i hope this will help you.

Sag11 I have checked out the sites refranced and found no way I can get it with out a doctor' order. I was unable to find the message you mentioned...I still to new at using this board I guess.

I would very much appreciate it if you could find out what your doctor will do for me. Also, do you have information on how to contact Dr. Kimmel via the web.

Thanks!

Cast

hi at the bottom of all my posts is the way to contact Dr Kimmel. If castration is what you want then go to a qualified Urologist anything less is to dangerous

Thanks Riverwind for the information. By any chance do you have an email address or web site for Dr. Kimmel?

I have conclued that the burdizzo is to risky and I want a year of chemical castration then the surgery to remove my testicles if this turns out to be a permanant fixation I have to be castrated, I think it is just what I need and have been ready for a long time to recieve it...to bad it is not easier to do through the medical profession.

Cast

That's a major issue there. It took a lot of talking to a lot of doctors who were "less than sympathetic"; but I hope that will eventually change as more people become aware that there are a lot of people who choose to take back control of their lives. It's good to know that Kimmel is carrying on the work, despite the general attitudes of the medical community.

I do think you're on the right track, though, by trying the chemical route first. I wouldn't hesitate to have mine removed if I had it to do over again, but I think that for a step as permanent as this, it's best to "try it before you buy it".

Don't be afraid to tell your doctors what you want, and how you feel about it. If they react with concern, that's fine. That's a sign of a good doctor. If they react with an unreasonable attitude, then get another doctor; you don't want someone taking care of your body (for castration or otherwise) who won't be sympathetic and listen to your point of views. Sometimes they get so caught up in the "medical community's standards" that they forget the most important issue; the health, happiness and welfare of the patient. There are, however, doctors out there who will listen; you just have to find them.

MarriedUnik

Happily Married to an Angel

Castrated October 19th, 2001

In Reynosa, Mexico

CAST i was wrong the post that reads thinking of anti androgens is about info on several drugs. If you want to check out the past articles on the archive go down to the botten of the general castration disscussion board.At the bottem right hand corner you will see the last 30 days if you hit this box you can go back two years of articles. Thair is all the info you will probley need in all thies articles.I have been reading thies posts for probley two years and this is where i found my info .I have orderded wy provera from www.anagen.net and i did not need a doctors prescription. CAST if i had it to do all over again i would have goon to my doctor first becaus after i explained the problem i was having with my sex addiction he was very willing to help me .I hope this info helps you try to find thoes past articles thair worth thair waight in gold may god bless you.

:p Thanks for the feed back I have been able to access the sight sag111 talked about. I have more questions...

I noticed the provera is injectble or tablet...is one better than the other? I too will go the provera route as it will work with my finances better for now.

Once the chemical castraion begins what should one expect to happen...Does it really produce the full effect???

Cast

You want the injectable version. The oral Provera is for daily birth control. Depo-Provera is a suspension that is taken once every 3 months for birth control. Many men take it once a month for libido control.

CAST what i have found with injections once a month is the lack of intrest in sex. My wife and i can still have sex if we want but i dont care for it anymore. Same goes for masterbation i just dont care anymore.When my doctor masured my testosterone it was 126 the avrage male is 300 to 1000 so as you can see it lowers it quite a bit. The avrage woman is 40 to 80 so it is not to mutch diffrent than a woman.You could probley take a shot every three weeks if you felt that is what you needed but you should get a blood test from your doctor if you can. good luck

Curiousity is killing the cat...For all those that have had bad burdizzo expriences...what size of burdizzo did you use?

I have a burdizzo tool 16" and if I can find someone to close the handles, I want to be neutered that way. I do not want my ball sack cut off.

Steve//

stevesd, as you know reading through this posting that a burdizzo is very risky. I have learned through reading various material that a 19 inch is the only thing that will do the job. To date I have not found anyone not successful using the 19'. Anyway, bottom line, I have no way of knowing for sure.

email me and I'll share what I have found out about the burdizzo to this point.

burdizzo, first time I've heard of that.

I think I would opt for surgery, I get the impression the burdizzo doesn't obviously REMOVE anything, just stops functionality...

A count of 30 per testis was what the docs at Wayne State found successful. You can search for the link in the archives.

I have considered the burdizzo seriously and rejected it on the following grounds:

1. Too many conflicting reports about timing and number of clampings.

2. Possibility of gangrene or necrosis.

However, the doctors at WSU found it worthwhile enough to recommend it. It's really your call if you want to use it. Given a choice between burdizzo and self-castration or a choice of methods when dealing with a relatively inexperienced cutter, an adventurous doctor, or a helping friend, I favor a burdizzo because operating it seems more tolerant to mistakes than surgical extraction or banding.

awen

I was castrated with the burdizzo and although I did have to be redone because there was some nerve connections that came back it was really because I wanted to get clamped again. It was very successful and no complications. I think it is a very viable way of getting castrated. You do need to use the big burdizzo, like 16 inch to get the results. Eunuch Boots

Cast (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 02, 2002 9:54 am Curiousity is killing the cat...

Hi Cast,

Sure a burdizzo castration is what you want? My hat is off to you. You will find many people here understand your passionate need, and most of them will also tell you patience is a lifesaving virtue. As is stated here over and over: Experiences vary. Just be sure you've examined all the options as carefully as possible.

No matter how you feel about postponing your castration, (and believe me, I postponed mine for decades), I can assure you that a test drive using an anti-androgen is a good option before altering your body permanently. There are long-term mental and physical consequences to castration, depending upon whether or not you choose HRT, (either testosterone or estrogen). Some people (yours truly), find their bodies cannot tolerate HRT in any fashion. Luckily, I wouldn't go near testosterone today for love nor money.

I was castrated by Dr Kimmel, and now that it's done I don't care much about the "aesthetics" I once thought so important. I'm a eunuch, there's nothing in there and I'm MUCH happier this way. However, read the archives; there are others who ended up regretting their action to the point of suicide.

Nothing before or after has changed my life so radically as castration. It opened many more doors than it closed, and if you want to share experiences, I'll be happy to do so privately.

Best of luck to you and my wishes for a healthy and happy outcome.

Eunuch Greg

ScottieTu (imported) wrote: Thu Oct 07, 2004 9:24 am burdizzo, first time I've heard of that.

I think I would opt for surgery, I get the impression the burdizzo doesn't obviously REMOVE anything, just stops functionality...

1) Unless you use an local anesthetic it is very painfull.

2) It is almost impossiable to self clamp with out anesthetic but it has been done (Experance in BME Extreme), you will want a helper.

The burdizzo crushes the cords, blocking blood flow and then the body reabsobes the testicle(s).

_g