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Coming out/post op
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 8:41 pm
by Evolve
To those who have joined the ranks- Have you come out to anyone beyond intimate partners? What have been the reactions?
I'm coming up on four weeks as of tomorrow- Thus far, the surgeon is the only one I'm out to. I'm very much enjoying life as a eunuch and do plan to come out to those who matter in my life. I think coming out is our only path forward towards recognition and acceptance as a community. However, I realize that's far easier said than done.
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:36 pm
by Supranatural (imported)
Only my partner knows about it (he waited in the waiting room). I have come close to disclosing it when drunk before. Fortunately I did not. I want to keep it a secret unto myself.
It can be funny when you make allusive remarks that hint at your own status, yet others are blissfully unaware of what the true relevancy of such remarks actually mean haha.
Soooo maybe I will stay in the closet on this issue haha.
I guess just make sure those whom you come out to are trustworthy and decent. But don't fret over any feeling of a need to do so.
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2020 9:50 pm
by aspie_nico (imported)
Two close friends know. Nothing most people have to know.
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:19 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
I ve discussed testicular torsion and the risk of it castrating with many men. Most men younger than 30 years old will joke and giggle and get nervous to mask their fear, interest, or excitement unless its one on one and no others are around. Most men over 30 are seriously curious and very interested in both subjects even though testicular torsions are more likely to occur younger than 20 years old. Maybe they want to know more for their sons and grandsons benefits. But most men over 30 are far more serious and open to human castration than most younger men and teens. They know men face it if they live long enough.
One on one or very small groups are more talkative, accepting, questioning, and honest than larger groups where the jokers are always the first to comment and then make serious discussion less likely. Men like to save face in front of other men by showing how un gay they are in front of big groups by refusing to talk about male sex subjects other than straight sex.
Alone or in small groups men will discuss our male anatomy way more honestly, openly, and enthusiastically. They ask more questions, give more feedback, and share their feelings and ideas far more than they ever would in front of other men.
I ve never discussed this with any non medical women. But I m guessing the size of group makes a huge difference in their reactions and comments too.
Coming out one on one with no one else around to hear or worry about allows people to be far more honest and open with you. It allows them to talk and ask you questions far better than in front of a group or competing with others to talk with you.
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2020 1:34 am
by Begoneboy (imported)
Guess I've not really come out per say. I just leg people think what they want. Well with exception of within this group. Other people knowing ones status seems to be very enlightening to me.
Thank you Eunuch Archive!
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:32 am
by eunuchjeff (imported)
Interesting! I have seldom 'come out' as a castrated gay, cisgender male, but folks do notice because I'm often socially nude and exposed (nude beaches, naked parties, World Naked Bike Ride, etc.). One can't help but notice than I have a smallish, empty sac behind my cock. But few folks initiate a discussion or ask how I lost my testicles or even if I just have small ones. A few guys in group showers or at parties have asked if they can 'feel' my sac, but it never goes further.
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:42 am
by experiment (imported)
I suspect more males might be interested in castration, given that many eunuchs are really desiring to be free of their male role and life style and replace it with a new and different one. Once you understand that castration can free you to be less demanding and aggressive in your life style, as the eunuch calm frequently discussed
Too often castration and eunuch lifestyle are associated with gay behavior and lifestyle. This does bother males such as myself. Once you realize castration can free a male from his current behavior and allow him to be relieved of distractions caused by male arousals and sexual desires. It is not about a desire to be gay, be a bottom or a different type of male for many of us. I personally have no interest in being gay or participating in that lifestyle. I make no judgement for others that desire to live as such. As one who is frustrated with societies expectations for male behavior the thought of castration is almost a fantasy as a way to be free of arousals,thoughts, desires and ability of a male with functioning testicles. It is something an individual can do without revealing anything to others and just take control of our own thoughts and desires. For many it a new freedom to be experienced. For me it is still a fantasy to consider.
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:56 am
by gandalf (imported)
I did not make it a secret. My daughter recommended I do it because of Testicular Pain. My son, was not so gung-ho though he did accept that it was my decision. I did not keep it secret at church either. Two of my young (16 year olds) knew and my impression was that they thought I was gutsy to do it. e remained friends They have remained friends as has the whole church. So, I guess I am out to about 200 people, the church and other relatives who have asked.
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:40 pm
by kastranja (imported)
I first came out in spring 2016 to one very special personal friend who virtually accompanied me through the whole process of getting castrated (Oct 2016) through name and civil status change (Jan 2019) and the frequent skirmishes against gender dualism up to the quest for some more non-standard anatomical modifications. I came about to my parents and about 10 good friends including medical details mostly in autumn 2018, before taking on official changes. I came out as agender or "diverse" (third sex/gender option in Germany since 2019) through two regional newspaper articles (Oct 2018 an Jan 2019) and a regional TV feature (May 2019). No medical details were given, though. Later, I occasionally took part in discussions with friends or other trans/non-binary people and allies where I directly or indirectly disclosed I had no testiles any more. I avoided telling details to some people I thought might react reserved, but those I told were not taken aback or opposed it.
Actually, I came out to one very close friend about my desires and plans even in 1999, but the issue got buried very deep back then. She was the first one I told in 2018 that I had gone through with it. Her reaction was decisive for my later openness.
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:19 am
by JockItch (imported)
I was lifting with a workout buddy of mine at an outdoor gym on a hot sunny day. He said "I'm sweating my balls off," and I felt like saying "I already have!" I'm on testosterone and as yoked up as he is, but if he knew I was voluntarily castrated he probably wouldn't work out with me anymore.
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:49 am
by Varys2013 (imported)
experiment (imported) wrote: Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:42 am
I suspect more males might be interested in castration, given that many eunuchs are really desiring to be free of their male role and life style and replace it with a new and different one. Once you understand that castration can free you to be less demanding and aggressive in your life style, as the eunuch calm frequently discussed
Too often castration and eunuch lifestyle are associated with gay behavior and lifestyle. This does bother males such as myself. Once you realize castration can free a male from his current behavior and allow him to be relieved of distractions caused by male arousals and sexual desires. It is not about a desire to be gay, be a bottom or a different type of male for many of us. I personally have no interest in being gay or participating in that lifestyle. I make no judgement for others that desire to live as such. As one who is frustrated with societies expectations for male behavior the thought of castration is almost a fantasy as a way to be free of arousals,thoughts, desires and ability of a male with functioning testicles. It is something an individual can do without revealing anything to others and just take control of our own thoughts and desires. For many it a new freedom to be experienced. For me it is still a fantasy to consider.
Thanks for your thoughts. This is precisely where I am. As a castrated eunuch I have experienced exactly that sense of freedom. Almost complete elimination of libido has freed my mind from most of the normal "male" urges. I now find so many stereotypical male behaviors to be silly, many outright repugnant. Thinking back a year or more ago, I've said many times that it feels like there was someone else living in my head!
I'm a much better, calmer, more free version of myself.
Re: Coming out/post op
Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2020 1:07 am
by cutnbulls2ox (imported)
JockItch (imported) wrote: Sat Apr 11, 2020 12:19 am
I was lifting with a workout buddy of mine at an outdoor gym on a hot sunny day. He said "I'm sweating my balls off," and I felt like saying "I already have!" I'm on testosterone and as yoked up as he is, but if he knew I was voluntarily castrated he probably wouldn't work out with me anymore.
I m betting he would be genuinely intrigued and very curious about what your motivations were in getting yourself voluntarily castrated. If you said that you got gelded for birth control, most men would say, " Cool, you are way braver than me ! " If you said you got it for sex drive reduction, lots of men would silently understand that, even if they would never admit to thinking that about themselves to any other men.
I think one on one, that most men over about 35 years old could handle it pretty good. Younger men would be more likely be scared by it, and tend to shy away from you. From not understanding you and fearing that they might end up castrated if they hang around you, and start thinking like you do, and you maybe talking them into joining you, and you hook them up with a castrator some day..
Most men might worry more about how they will " seem " to other men when they are showering with a balless best friend in the gym showers and locker room. I think they would be thinking more about appearances, like " What will all of the other men in the gym think about me if they find out that my best friend volunteered to get his balls cut off ? What do I said to be loyal to my friend if some guys make cruel comments to him in the showers, about him being steered, and I m showering right next to him ? "
If this culture did not have such a negative stigma against voluntary castration, men would probably be coming up to you in the gym and asking you all about your surgery, and your T affects, your sex abilities, and your life as a gelding, and some would admit to thinking about joining you as a willing steer.
When I was about 13, one man about 35 came into the gym from having his vasectomy days earlier. His buddies all crowded around him saying, " Show us what it looks like ? I want to see your scars. How much did it hurt ? Drop your pants and show us ? "
The man said, "" Ok, but let me show you in the locker room, not out here."
I wanted to go see and hear all about it. But my lifting buddy was not interested and did not want to go watch and hear about it. So, I stuck with him, instead of following those men and then try to figure out how to get close enough to see and hear all about it, as just some teen they didn t know.
And years later, it is my disinterested lifting buddy who now has a vasectomy and says how great they are to everyone who asks him about it !