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Yet another reason not to use a cutter. Trust me, it's not a lot of fun for the "clients" of cutters when this happens. Yet another cutter picked up by the police, this time in Australia.

https://www.news.com.au/national/crime/ ... 7ebc3df5a2

It is so sad that men see no other way to get what they need and have to resort to "cutters". I hope the cutter gets the maximum sentence.

Wow.

Yikes.

There is no reason to use a cutter. I know some on here have and it worked out okay for them. But, really, this guy is an electrician, has no medical training - not exactly a resume for male genital surgery.

And the police found one each penis and two each testicles in the man's freezer and think he might have castrated someone? Ya Think?

Police have allegedly found a severed human penis and testicles in a tradie's freezer while investigating the removal of another person's testicle in an alleged castration fetish act.

Police went to the West End flat of electrician Ryan Andrew King, 27, in inner city Brisbane while investigating a bizarre mutilation last weekend.

Police and paramedics were called to a city backpacker hostel last Saturday night where they allegedly found a 26-year-old Sydney man with his genitals partly removed.

It is alleged the man had arranged to be partially castrated by Mr King in one of the rooms, after meeting online.

Mr King, who works as an electrician at the Queensland Performing Arts Centre and has volunteered in the SES, is not believed to be medically qualified but allegedly taught himself castration from online research.

It is alleged he may have used a Cryopen, a device for removing lesions such as warts and benign skin spots with nitrous oxide under high pressure.

After finding the allegedly mutilated man at the hostel, police searched Mr King's West End apartment and allegedly found a human penis and set of testicles in his freezer.

Police allegedly found a penis and testicles in the freezer of Brisbane tradie Ryan Andrew King, who has been charged after allegedly partly castrating a man.

Police allegedly found a penis and testicles in the freezer of Brisbane tradie Ryan Andrew King, who has been charged after allegedly partly castrating a man.

Ryan King has an extra X chromosome, his lawyer said.

King may have used a Cryopen to allegedly remove the testicle.

King may have used a Cryopen to allegedly remove the testicle.Source:Supplied

Queensland Police reported no complaints have been made about the - as yet unidentified - set of severed male human genitals and no charges have been laid in relation to the discovery.

The Sydney man who allegedly had one testicle removed by Mr King was taken to the Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital for surgery and is in a stable condition.

Police charged Mr King with one count of act intended to maim and he appeared via video link in Brisbane Magistrates Court on Monday.

Mr King's parents were in court for the appearance of their son, who was denied bail.

His defence lawyer told the court Mr King had been bullied as a student at Brisbane's elite private boys' school Anglican Church Grammar, known as "Churchie", and had Asperger's and Klinefelter syndromes.

Klinefelter syndrome, when a male is born with an extra X or female chromosome, can cause small, poorly functioning genitals and lowered fertility.

Brisbane detectives are investigating the existence of an underground fetish scene in which men apparently volunteer to have parts of their genitals removed.

Mr King will next appear in court on August 24.

I've read this news story over a couple of times and I find it very disappointing for many reasons. I live in Australia and i have found it so hard to be recognised here for my wanting to be a eunuch. I started out down all the correct part ways to try and have my surgery done to right way here in Australia and received so many road blocks and frustrations along the way, I went to a local gender clinic and ended up being told that I would never be able to get surgery here in Australia and even most MTF transgender people need to travel overseas to get surgery. For me a cutter was never an option at all! But I can kind of understand how some people end up seeing cutters due to the lack of options available.

I ended up traveling to the USA in 2017 and went to Dr Arnkoff. This was very costly for me to do but I have never looked back. I know Dr Arnkoff has had some critics but at the end of the day he offers a service that is so hard to get for some and in a mostly safe environment, much safer than a cutter!

I think the most disappointing part of this for me is that is been labeled as a fetish! I get the fact that for some this is the case but for the most of us here that is not the case at all.

Many here have been working so hard to bring forward our needs and I thank those people who have been fighting the system for us to be able to just be ourselves!

I feel that this puts back so much of the hard work. I also feel that this also shows the lack of support and empathy for how we feel.

oscarjackson (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:11 pm I've read this news story over a couple of times and I find it very disappointing for many reasons. I live in Australia and i have found it so hard to be recognised here for my wanting to be a eunuch. I started out down all the correct part ways to try and have my surgery done to right way here in Australia and received so many road blocks and frustrations along the way, I went to a local gender clinic and ended up being told that I would never be able to get surgery here in Australia and even most MTF transgender people need to travel overseas to get surgery. For me a cutter was never an option at all! But I can kind of understand how some people end up seeing cutters due to the lack of options available.

I ended up traveling to the USA in 2017 and went to Dr Arnkoff. This was very costly for me to do but I have never looked back. I know Dr Arnkoff has had some critics but at the end of the day he offers a service that is so hard to get for some and in a mostly safe environment, much safer than a cutter!

I think the most disappointing part of this for me is that is been labeled as a fetish! I get the fact that for some this is the case but for the most of us here that is not the case at all.

Many here have been working so hard to bring forward our needs and I thank those people who have been fighting the system for us to be able to just be ourselves!

I feel that this puts back so much of the hard work. I also feel that this also shows the lack of support and empathy for how we feel.

Hey @OscarJackson,

Your frustration is justified. MtE is not a fetish for most and it is not cosmetic surgery for most.

Yet, from the doctor's point of view, they are trained to "first do no harm". While many, including myself, think that refusing to do the surgery creates an environment where finding a cutter begins to seem like a good option and therefore is doing harm, the doctor looks at it from the viewpoint that they aren't going to remove two perfectly functioning glands that the body needs to ward off all sorts of morbidity. It has always befuckingbaffled me that if you asked the same urologist to surgically amputate your foreskin, the only question you'd get is "would next Tuesday at 7am work for you".

Plus, the doctor doesn't want to risk their medical license. In the US more and more doctors are willing to perform surgery that allows a male to have his genitals match his gender identity - even if that gender identity is eunuch or nullo. To weed out that the desire might be a fetish and not a gender identity, most still require a therapist letter or two.

Progress is being made. Even if slowly.

Paolo wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:41 pm Police have allegedly found a severed human penis and testicles in a tradie's freezer...

The crucial lesson is always go the medical route but my personal take away is my dick belongs in someone's freezer.

If the health systems of our countries took our concerns more seriously, then these cutters wouldn't need to be sought after by those of us that have reasons for doing so other than some fetish.

As much as some here are saying that the cutter should be legally reprimanded, lets not lose sight of how it was a voluntary fetish act. The person wanting to be cut would have found someone else to do it if not him. Maybe if he had had the option of having it done though the health service, he would have opted for that instead. Lets not cast too much judgement here. Society does that to those of us that even have medically legitimate reasons for doing so.

oscarjackson (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:11 pm I ended up traveling to the USA in 2017 and went to Dr Arnkoff. This was very costly for me to do but I have never looked back. I know Dr Arnkoff has had some critics but at the end of the day he offers a service that is so hard to get for some and in a mostly safe environment, much safer than a cutter!

I discourage people from seeing Arnkoff for nullification or penectomy, he has zero plastic surgery skills. But he does fine with through the scrotum castrations.

oscarjackson (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:11 pm I've read this news story over a couple of times and I find it very disappointing for many reasons. I live in Australia and i have found it so hard to be recognised here for my wanting to be a eunuch. I started out down all the correct part ways to try and have my surgery done to right way here in Australia and received so many road blocks and frustrations along the way, I went to a local gender clinic and ended up being told that I would never be able to get surgery here in Australia and even most MTF transgender people need to travel overseas to get surgery. For me a cutter was never an option at all! But I can kind of understand how some people end up seeing cutters due to the lack of options available.

I am in New Zealand. I was lucky that the first local urologist I saw was quite supportive. I encountered a few hurdles. The psychiatrist who assessed me did not diagnose gender dysphoria because I did not want to become more feminine, missing the point about the DSM-5 criteria and preferring to use Criterion A from DSM-IV-TR (which he freely admits), but he passed me as sane and wrote a fence-sitting assessment that was good enough for my urologist. The only local private surgical hospital is Catholic and will not touch gender surgeries, so my urologist referred me back to himself in the public system. The process was slow and somewhat convoluted, but I did succeed in the end, and my psychiatric assessment and surgery were fully taxpayer funded. I suspect that it all depends on finding the right specialists and being in a location where services are available. Orchi is so commonplace for medical reasons that any urologist can do it. With enough supporting documentation, anything is possible.

rogerwpbfl (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 01, 2020 12:26 am The crucial lesson is always go the medical route but my personal take away is my dick belongs in someone's freezer.

Well, maybe the lesbian doctor and her wife, who is also her nurse, would have a collection of petrified purloined plenteous penis popsicles in their freezer? Still, only a medical doctor for penectomy/castration.

Now police have to track all the owners of that penisis. Sounds fun macht chopped dicks with eunuchs, like a puzzle

CircItaly (imported) wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 5:00 pm Now police have to track all the owners of that penisis. Sounds fun macht chopped dicks with eunuchs, like a puzzle

It should be shown on TV and posted in public places, "Do you recognize this penis?" They could also offer a reward for information leading to the identification of its former owner. Maybe make it available for people to handle so they can see if it feels familiar?

rogerwpbfl (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 12:26 am It should be shown on TV and posted in public places, "Do you recognize this penis?" They could also offer a reward for information leading to the identification of its former owner. Maybe make it available for people to handle so they can see if it feels familiar?

If the police really cared whose penis was in the freezer, they would have given us a better description. White or black, circumcised, length, width, etc.

Plus, I wonder if the "owner" of the penis is still alive. Maybe the dingos in the back out have already scattered his bones. Plus those roos are mean bastards and will kill you to get into your carrot garden - so, once tossed in the back out, it's quick for a body to disappear.

Moral of the story is don't use cutters - even ones down under holding onto the bottom of the earth like bats.

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 1:14 am If the police really cared whose penis was in the freezer, they would have given us a better description. White or black, circumcised, length, width, etc.

Plus, I wonder if the "owner" of the penis is still alive. Maybe the dingos in the back out have already scattered his bones. Plus those roos are mean bastards and will kill you to get into your carrot garden - so, once tossed in the back out, it's quick for a body to disappear.

Moral of the story is don't use cutters - even ones down under holding onto the bottom of the earth like bats.

Ok, what if police did give a description as such, "the discovered penis is Caucasian, measures 7 1/2 inches in its current state with a circumference of 5 inches"?

Can you imagine the comments on the articles that would appear?

rogerwpbfl (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:55 am Ok, what if police did give a description as such, "the discovered penis is Caucasian, measures 7 1/2 inches in its current state with a circumference of 5 inches"?

Can you imagine the comments on the articles that would appear?

Yup. A lot of guys asking if they could have a transplant.

let's just say Caucasian, around 50 years. At this point I'll just say if I have a reasonable suspicion who it belonged to, the police will figure it out quite easily.

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 03, 2020 4:53 am Yup. A lot of guys asking if they could have a transplant.

Lol @TopManFL

Find me a cutter who is a retired doctor and we'll talk ��

Redpackage (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 6:34 pm Find me a cutter who is a retired doctor and we'll talk ��

I always thought a retired veterinarian would be the best bet. Friends of ours were in practice together. One did large and exotic animals, he castrated elephants, and she was a small animal vet. They had so much experience castrating. I would definitely trust her to castrate me rather than a urologist.

I am definitely not recommending anyone use a cutter. However, as difficult as it is to find a willing surgeon men are still going to take the risk. The procedure itself is remarkably simple (I have posted a video on my blog) and yet if the vessels are not securely ligated and sterility is not meticulously maintained it could end in disaster. It's simply time for the medical community to recognize MtE as a legitimate gender preference and cutters will be relegated to history. Personally I never wanted to become a Eunuch but I'm now very happy as one and have empathy for those who legitimately desire to be rid of their balls.

In 2020 it's much easier to find a doctor who can help than it is to find a cutter. I know of far more people in the last 5 years who were castrated by a legitimate surgeon than I do those who have used the services of a non-medically licensed person. The fact of the matter is, these days, t

TopManFL (imported) wrote: Fri Jul 31, 2020 12:11 pm here is no reason to use a cutter

when there are so many surgeons willing to help. This was not the case when I was castrated. I've been called a hypocrite for using a cutter back in 2005 and now advocating the use of a surgeon, by people seeking help to lose their testicles now.

Newsflash: There was little to no access to legitimate surgeries to remove our otherwise unwanted but healthy balls back in 2005. The one option I can think of was so old and frail, he had to stop. The only other I know of remotely close to that time was arrested and put into prison for doing unauthorized surgeries after one of his patients died. Everyone else was a cutter. Now the opposite is true, there may be one or two cutters working (at least in the USA), but the legitimate options far outweigh the non-medical options.

Simply put, there is no reason to be seeking the services of a cutter now. There are so many better options available, I keep hoping to hear those who are still cutters are no longer performing these surgeries.

So if you're considering being castrated at this point, do yourself a huge favor and find a doctor willing to help. Compared to 15 years ago, they're all over now, at least in the USA.

Cseriess (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 11, 2020 10:25 pm I always thought a retired veterinarian would be the best bet. Friends of ours were in practice together. One did large and exotic animals, he castrated elephants, and she was a small animal vet. They had so much experience castrating. I would definitely trust her to castrate me rather than a urologist.

Why would anyone want to castrated an elephant? Ernie of Maine.

Many captive elephants are castrated. You dont think they would let us do the things we do to them in circuses and zoos if they weren't. They are castrated when they hit puberty basically.

Losethem (imported) wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:30 am In 2020 it's much easier to find a doctor who can help than it is to find a cutter. I know of far more people in the last 5 years who were castrated by a legitimate surgeon than I do those who have used the services of a non-medically licensed person. The fact of the matter is, these days, t

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Losethem (imported) wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 10:30 am =1596161460]
here is no reason to use a cutter

when there are so many surgeons willing to help. This was not the case when I was castrated. I've been called a hypocrite for using a cutter back in 2005 and now advocating the use of a surgeon, by people seeking help to lose their testicles now.

Newsflash: There was little to no access to legitimate surgeries to remove our otherwise unwanted but healthy balls back in 2005. The one option I can think of was so old and frail, he had to stop. The only other I know of remotely close to that time was arrested and put into prison for doing unauthorized surgeries after one of his patients died. Everyone else was a cutter. Now the opposite is true, there may be one or two cutters working (at least in the USA), but the legitimate options far outweigh the non-medical options.

Simply put, there is no reason to be seeking the services of a cutter now. There are so many better options available, I keep hoping to hear those who are still cutters are no longer performing these surgeries.

So if you're considering being castrated at this point, do yourself a huge favor and find a doctor willing to help. Compared to
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15 years ago, they're all over now, at least in the USA.

All I know is what I read here about the difficulties finding a willing doctor and the hoops men have to jump through, not to mention the expense. Yet if what you say is true and there are many willing doctors I suppose it's by far better to save money, think long and hard about an irreversible procedure and do it safely. Although my orchiectomy was technically elective there was a well established medical reason to have both dead testicles removed. Now I do know the doctor in North Carolina who removed my scrotum deals primarily in SRS and she does advertise MtE castrations yet still requires the psychological screening and letters. I think she charges about $3k for an orchi and scrotal removal, which seems pretty reasonable (I paid about $1200 just for the sack to be removed).

I do hope you are right because I can imagine the risks of getting your nuts removed in some seedy hotel room by a guy with no real medical training and questionable techniques and sterility.