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Hi folks,

I'm just at the start of my journey to nutlessness, and I'd love to hear from anyone who has any sort of advice, or suggestions, or what their experiences are, and anything else that might be of help in my furthering this matter. As a result, I'm looking for any castrated men in Australia. If possible, within N.S.W.

The sorts of questions I'd like to ask are, I think, pretty obvious. Like what was your pathway? As in did you go through "proper medical channels"? Did you try some sort of drug induced castration first, and if so, what sort of methods for obtaining the meds are required? Did you have difficulties in finding a G.P. that was supportive? What about finding a surgeon? Is surgical castration a realistic thing to be considering here in the land of Oz without some dire medical need?

I'm still figuring a lot of things out, but I think it's probably wise to look into the more simple and practical questions early. What I mean is, there's no point in getting all worked up about becoming a gelding when it's not a practical possibility here.

Not ruling anything in or out yet, just inquiring about possible futures.

I started on this path at the young age of 19.5, but I never thought it was my crazy act. I cannot advise you about this. It all depends on your desire. Of course, you definitely need to see a doctor. Wish you luck!

Valery_V (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 12:35 pm I started on this path at the young age of 19.5, but I never thought it was my crazy act. I cannot advise you about this. It all depends on your desire. Of course, you definitely need to see a doctor. Wish you luck!

I take my hat off to you. That would have required quite a bit more maturity than I probably had at the same age.

Presently my biggest issue is following up on a chemical trial. I don't know anything much about the practicalities of obtaining the right drug(s).

With respect to a surgical solution, I strongly suspect that I'm not going to get much distance here in Australia. I think this for two reasons. The first is the rather conservative medical profession, the other is the conservative attitude of medicos here. As a result, I think a short holiday in a foreign country where medical vacationing happens might be the go. Hospitals in Thailand advertise inguinal orchiectomy starting at US$4800. There are even something analogous to travel agents who tee up accommodation, transport and the hospital bookings.

By the time this damned virus is dealt with so that international travel is on again, I may well have saved up enough to go.

So far, the simple plan is this:

Find out about what things would be like with almost all testosterone gone. This is where I need to find out more about sourcing meds.

A large decrease in sex drive would be quite desirable. As I've mentioned before though, I have very strong misgivings about the possibility of sinking into a very deep funk. I've read elsewhere on this site about a drug regimen that lowers T more gently. More research needed here. I would like to know that even if I opted for HRT, that should I be unable to obtain meds for some reason, that I'd be at least OK.

Assuming that the trial goes well, and after some time with low T I'm not alone in a corner with a black dog, then I can consider maybe moving towards a booking in Thailand. I will also need to find out what sort of referral they may require too.

And that's about the short of it, so far.

I for some reason thought that with me everything is differently: that at the age of 19.5 years I lacked mind to refrain from total cancellation. During much late period, I would try to refrain from so radical modification. However I was never sorry and is still happy with my body. Over it well worked and I practically do not face many problems about which our friends here at a forum speak...

BillyBlogs (imported) wrote: Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:58 pm Hospitals in Thailand advertise inguinal orchiectomy starting at US$4800. There are even something analogous to travel agents who tee up accommodation, transport and the hospital bookings.

"Inguinal orchiectomy"

https://healthjade.net/orchiectomy/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inguinal_orchiectomy

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7807348/

I had two testicles that did not work due to the way I had a vasectomy done by a surgeon. It took 12 years after before they stopped working but during this time I suffered the equivalent of blue balls continuously. Testosterone tests pathology proved they had stopped working but there was still pain. I fixed it with an injection or two of pure high quality "Gin" and now that testical is only an empty shell. It proved to be safe, a little enjoyable painful which was less after each injection but very effective. The other one must have stopped working entirely as there was no pain so I never gave it the treatment. That kept the money hungry surgeons out of the picture however having no testosterone I developed osteoporosis but was prescribed testosterone injections (HRT) which I have been using for some time. The injections fixed the osteoporosis and now I have a life which is largely neutered as the injections are regulated to provide me with a very low level of hormone.

Hi. You found a great place to ask your questions. There are a couple of must reed stickies about chemical and surgical castration on here. Explore the site and read them a couple of times! Chemical trial is definitely the way to go. I think, others may have a different experience, that androcur is the easiest antiandrogen to acquire. There are some side effects I didn't enjoy, shortness of breath being the main one, but it was very effective. I found an online trans medical group where a Dr prescribed me spironolactone. That was a much better experience than androcur, but caused almost immediate breast growth.

I loved being chemically castrated. The emotional and mental state I found myself in was just bliss, but I need to tweak the physical stuff before moving on. Good luck. Let us know how you get on.

Fellow Aussie here! Yeah I don't think there's many avenues to go surgically here, I didn't look into chemical much.

I decided to go the Bangkok route, much easier.

"Some like it hot!"

Welcome BillyBlogs, lots of Aussie men are interested in castration. Your country has many men who were voluntarily gelded from their numbers online. All that livestock you raise there gets lots of males interested in human castration. You should find fellow Aussies on here. And most Aussie men are exceptionally friendly, good natured, and great to be around. You have a great country with super attractive men.

Other side of the ditch, but came out to my lesbian GP, got referred to a private urologist, got referred to a public psychiatrist for an assessment (took 11 months!), had my surgery in a public hospital (because local private is Catholic). All up took about 21 months, completed at age 48.

Eunuchs can be described as a nonbinary transgender identity. Key gatekeepers are finding an LGBT-friendly GP and a urologist willing to provide or refer for trans surgery. Many providers are willing to treat nonbinary trans people. There are plenty of conservative or religious surgeons who will not, but colleagues know how to work around them.

I also spent a couple of years in therapy which helped me with many issues. If you can find a gender therapist or psychologist, they can help you build a documentation trail so that your surgeons can meet their duty of care.

Hi there boblast49,

I have to say I take my hat off to you, and your compatriots who very literally took matters into their own hands. It seem either squeamishness or knowledge of mortality becomes stronger with age, and I'm reluctant to follow such a path myself at the present. I'm very much leaning towards a chemical trial though.

Billy.

sern6262 (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:07 pm Fellow Aussie here! Yeah I don't think there's many avenues to go surgically here, I didn't look into chemical much.

I decided to go the Bangkok route, much easier.

Yes, I've given some thought to a "medi-holiday", but for the time being that's looking very unlikely.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:15 am Welcome BillyBlogs, lots of Aussie men are interested in castration. Your country has many men who were voluntarily gelded from their numbers online.

I'll have to get myself more familiar with how the personals and that works. I tend to be a bit of a loner, so that end of the web is a bit mysterious to me.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:15 am All that livestock you raise there gets lots of males interested in human castration.

Now that is an interesting hypothesis. But then again, what else should one expect from a culture where cow-pokes biting the nuts off livestock is considered normal.

cutnbulls2ox (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 1:15 am You should find fellow Aussies on here. And most Aussie men are exceptionally friendly, good natured, and great to be around. You have a great country with super attractive men.

Thanks for the compliment, on behalf of my countrymen.

catoboros (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 26, 2021 10:21 am Other side of the ditch, but came out to my lesbian GP, got referred to a private urologist, got referred to a public psychiatrist for an assessment (took 11 months!), had my surgery in a public hospital (because local private is Catholic). All up took about 21 months, completed at age 48.

Eunuchs can be described as a nonbinary transgender identity. Key gatekeepers are finding an LGBT-friendly GP and a urologist willing to provide or refer for trans surgery. Many providers are willing to treat nonbinary trans people. There are plenty of conservative or religious surgeons who will not, but colleagues know how to work around them.

I also spent a couple of years in therapy which helped me with many issues. If you can find a gender therapist or psychologist, they can help you build a documentation trail so that your surgeons can meet their duty of care.

Hi,

I'm taking first tentative steps next week. Nothing too serious at this time, just a bit of sounding out of my GP. In the end I might need to travel into Sydney to find medical support there. I won't cast nasturtiums at this time though, so far my GP as been quite good in a more general sort of way.

By the way, apart from those weird conical mountains, your home country is rather beautiful. Funny, I live on the weathered stumps of mountains that once were the size of the Himalayas. You live on or near some that have the ambition to get that big.

BillyBlogs (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:40 pm By the way, apart from those weird conical mountains, your home country is rather beautiful. Funny, I live on the weathered stumps of mountains that once were the size of the Himalayas. You live on or near some that have the ambition to get that big.

I live in the South Island, and our stunning mountains make more sense when you realise that the islands of New Zealand are the peaks of the submerged continent of Zealandia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealandia

catoboros (imported) wrote: Sat Aug 28, 2021 10:37 am I live in the South Island, and our stunning mountains make more sense when you realise that the islands of New Zealand are the peaks of the submerged continent of Zealandia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zealandia

Well, as you say, makes a lot of sense. The "weird" bit is about the notion that here, the valley passes have long ago weathered away, or maybe it's more correct to say the peaks that defined the valley passes have long ago weathered away. In any case, to cross the remains of the Great Dividing Range, one must climb up and go over, rather than try to follow a valley through.

I spent about a month on your lovely South Island. It was one of those rapidly moving events though, and everything is blurred together in my memory now. I do remember standing on the east coast though, and thinking about how incredibly far away South America was. I found that once the suspicion and cynicism that comes from living in a larger city is suppressed, the friendliness of the locals was refreshing, and the place felt good to be in. Had the best fun flying south in a light plane. The pilot made what could have easily been a tiresome cramped event into a great time with lots of info and banter.

BillyBlogs (imported) wrote: Fri Aug 27, 2021 6:02 pm Yes, I've given some thought to a "medi-holiday", but for the time being that's looking very unlikely.

Hopefully people can travel again next year and the madness will have died down. Bangkok was great in my opinion

sern6262 (imported) wrote: Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:07 pm Fellow Aussie here! Yeah I don't think there's many avenues to go surgically here, I didn't look into chemical much.

I decided to go the Bangkok route, much easier.

May I ask where about in Bangkok?