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So, we have entered the era of AI's.

It is incredible how able this OpenAI is in writing short stories. I think in a very soon future it will be mandatory by a law to state at the beginning of any writing, whether it was written by a human or by AI.

It is actually very easy to use the OpenAI interface, as it understands human language. Just describe what type of story you like to have, how long it should be, and it is done faster than you can read. You can add details to make story more interesting or how things should develope.

Also, this AI is very capable of writing absurd stuff, so prepare to laugh after asking for nonsense stuff. Like "write a story about two boys playing xbox during japanese EDO era, eating rice, and drinking medieval coca cola"

I did not dare to do that, but I wonder how many castration stories that could create for our fun

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If I know in advance that a fantasy story is created by artificial intelligence, I will not want to read it, despite all sorts of intricacies in the plot ...

I am only interested in the real feelings of the writer and his view of life, even in special fantastic circumstances.

This sounds exciting but a bit scary at the same time haha..

Don't underestimate AI! It very capable of creating and describing feelings. You should try it

erikboy (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:46 pm Don't underestimate AI! It very capable of creating and describing feelings. You should try it

What feelings?

After all, it's just a program: a set of algorithms.

Although someone once told me that a person is a set of programs .

Valery_V (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:53 pm What feelings?

After all, it's just a program: a set of algorithms.

Although someone once told me that a person is a set of programs .

Please go and check it out It is truly very easy. The most difficult part is to open an account. You just need to tell what about the story should be, and it will be there in a second. If you describe "Write a sad story about a man loosing his best friend" You will get enough sadness in the story. Although, the lenght of the story is limited to 4000 letters. Still even as a short story, it will have its beginning culmination and end. EA library is full of such short stories.

erikboy (imported) wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:07 pm Please go and check it out It is truly very easy. The most difficult part is to open an account. You just need to tell what about the story should be, and it will be there in a second. If you describe "Write a sad story about a man loosing his best friend" You will get enough sadness in the story. Although, the lenght of the story is limited to 4000 letters. Still even as a short story, it will have its beginning culmination and end. EA library is full of such short stories.

Maybe later, when I finish reading the "Boys of Blue Creek" saga by the real writer Paolo (from the EA library).

It makes me wonder what it would do if I put the rough sketch (about 10 pages) of my planned 100-120 page eunuch/nullo "novel" into it.

Losethem (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:09 am It makes me wonder what it would do if I put the rough sketch (about 10 pages) of my planned 100-120 page eunuch/nullo "novel" into it.

Well, how so!

This is dishonest of you!

You recently promised to write this literary work with your own hands.

I'd still like to hope it's not AI and not give up reading assuming it's AI .

Losethem (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 12:09 am It makes me wonder what it would do if I put the rough sketch (about 10 pages) of my planned 100-120 page eunuch/nullo "novel" into it.

It would probably be about as successful as your AI art attempt at "eunuchs on the moon".

You mean, something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8V2U7v ... 9Cberclips

Someone really needs to try this out. Seriously.

Just not me!

Once upon a time, people were amused by this:

Kraftwerk - The Robots (1978)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcJ1q0c1F4g

And now, for example, it just scares me.

Now I understand why the products of the so-called "speech writers" are verbal diarrhea.

They obviously resort to the services of AI .

I subscribe to a free computer security letter put out by Bruce Schneier who is one of the top level experts on cryptography and computer security, mostly summarizing and giving links to the various security bugs, exploits etc. in the online world...

In his latest issue, he posted the result of a test he did on one of the AI engines where he told it to "write an essay on AI in the style of Bruce Schneier" - It did a pretty good job, I might have bought it as his.... His own comment was that it wasn't at the point he could retire, but he might be able to go on vacation for a few days... Scary for sure....

WheelyCurious

WheelyCurious wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 5:39 am I subscribe to a free computer security letter put out by Bruce Schneier who is one of the top level experts on cryptography and computer security, mostly summarizing and giving links to the various security bugs, exploits etc. in the online world...

In his latest issue, he posted the result of a test he did on one of the AI engines where he told it to "write an essay on AI in the style of Bruce Schneier" - It did a pretty good job, I might have bought it as his.... His own comment was that it wasn't at the point he could retire, but he might be able to go on vacation for a few days... Scary for sure....

WheelyCurious

And totally not scary. AI at this stage doesn't know when to stop, and if it lacks details, it confabulates 'believable bullshit'. (coworkers tried asking it questions for IT job interview. Results were "believable on the surface, confident and wrong"). Worse - there is no indication - when it was writing something true and checked and when it was total fiction.

So - if you need precision and not fiction - all what was generated needs to be human-reviewed. And as it was not human who generated it - it will/may require more time.

IMO, this will fill up internet with more advertisements and stuff, indistinguishable from some sane text at first glance and it will make finding something specific even harder than it is now.

At least before Artificial Idiot - you'd need to pay humans. Now you can do it essentially for free.

To quote another one:

- Hey, John, come back to us, we need a programmer!

- But you have monkey with GPT-3 AI.

- Monkey with GPT-3 AI is now a team lead manager. We need programmer again.

ChatGPT is one of the newest, and supposedly most powerful, AI text writers. Theoretically it can write poetry as well as essays.

William McGonagall is reputed to be the worst published poet in the history of the English language. David Hugh-Jones chose some of McGonagall's poems and used their topics as prompts for ChatGPT. On his web site, you can read the prompt given to the computer and both McGonagall's original poem (with the themes very clear in the poem) and the AI version of a poem on the same themes. Can you tell which is which???

https://wyclif.substack.com/p/thought-b ... dium=email

They're both so bad it's hard to tell.

fhunter wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:02 am And totally not scary. AI at this stage doesn't know when to stop, and if it lacks details, it confabulates 'believable bullshit'. (coworkers tried asking it questions for IT job interview. Results were "believable on the surface, confident and wrong"). Worse - there is no indication - when it was writing something true and checked and when it was total fiction.

So - if you need precision and not fiction - all what was generated needs to be human-reviewed. And as it was not human who generated it - it will/may require more time.

IMO, this will fill up internet with more advertisements and stuff, indistinguishable from some sane text at first glance and it will make finding something specific even harder than it is now.

At least before Artificial Idiot - you'd need to pay humans. Now you can do it essentially for free.

To quote another one:

It's ok, we're safe until it can interpret the difference between what product is saying and what they mean.

I'm not an expert, so I can only speak my personal opinion.

If I have empathy for the author, then I am interested in his statements, stories, and so on.

For example, from LT I am ready to listen to anything, even something with which I do not agree, since it is interesting to me .

But even the most intelligent things spoken by AI will seem unspeakably boring to me...

Nothing will ever beat Snoopy's "Dark & Stormy Night".

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Valery_V (imported) wrote: Sun Dec 18, 2022 3:10 pm I'm not an expert, so I can only speak my personal opinion.

If I have empathy for the author, then I am interested in his statements, stories, and so on.

For example, from LT I am ready to listen to anything, even something with which I do not agree, since it is interesting to me .

But even the most intelligent things spoken by AI will seem unspeakably boring to me...

You're very kind, thank you.

Now what you said about my using some sort of AI to help write the story/novel I had in mind, makes more sense.