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A question for men who have no penises:

How do women (especially women who you are interested in having a relationship with) act when they find out that you have no penis?

happousai (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2002 11:04 am A question for men who have no penises:

How do women (especially women who you are interested in having a relationship with) act when they find out that you have no penis?

In my experience only (and this is a rough approximation over several years):

25% - Fascinated and find it an erotic plus

25% - Aghast and find th whole idea abhorrent

50% - Confused and flip-flopping

Bottom line, I guess, is only 25% find it acceptable or a plus, but then again, that's still more than I can handle at one time . . .

Take care,

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Tomas (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2002 11:25 am Bottom line, I guess, is only 25% find it acceptable or a

> plus, but then again, that's still more than I can handle

> at one time . . .

I wonder if that actually might give penisless men an edge over intact males overall. While 75% of women wouldn't react positively to his condition, for the 25% that do, he is special and unique - there are probably no other guys like him around (that the women know of, anyway). And in the end, it's not about the quantity of relationships he can get; it's the quality.

(How many guys around here have no penises, anyway? Such guys seem to be scarce.)

In my experience only ...

Tomas (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2002 11:25 am I guess, is only 25% find it acceptable or a plus, but then again, that's still more than I can handle at one time

What is it like to be nullo? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

I can give you my answer but have to say that I don't appear like Tom, or others who ahve had full penectomies. Mine was not planned, and all internal tissues are gone but about one inch of shaft remained to which the glans was reattached. It is very narrow, has no sensation, and cannot ejaculate.

Taht said, most women don't want any part of me once I share this with them prior to actually being at the point of intimacy. Of those that get by this some get frustrated in a shor time as they don't have any validation that they "arouse or please" me.

The few taht get past this point come to prefer me, as they know that I will not impose on them, but gladly respond when they desire oral and manual stimulation. And they needn't give anything back. So the pleasure is all theirs.

I wonder how feasible it is for a penectomized man to have sex with a woman, without her finding out about his lack of penis.

If he can pull that off the first few times, it might allow him to get his "foot in the door", so to speak.

David S.: I think you're right. Playboy magazine ran an article two or three years ago about what women REALLY want. ...

2. They want physical comfort. Amazingly, most women really have no use for a penis. They really would rather (according to Playboy) simply cuddle up with the guy. Really. The typical woman would rather lie naked with a guy and just cuddle. The thing with the penis is simply for making the guy happy ...

You didn't REALLY think she was in love with your cock, did you???

Very True - sounds like my wife.

...there are more things between Heaven and Earth, dear Horatio, than are drempt of in you philosphies...

Just right click your mouse on these images and the click on "...save as..." or you can just click "open link"

I'd say that most of these young ladies are throughly enjoying themselves...

http://www.weirdinsertion.com/movie/sam ... /toy2.html

http://www.weirdinsertion.com/movie/pho ... /toy2.html

http://www.weirdinsertion.com/movie/sha ... /toy2.html

http://128.241.244.138/freetour/lina1.mpg

And of course, this last one. You may be half right. There some who have lots of uses for a penis, they just don't have much use for what is attached to it...

http://128.241.244.138/freetour/6sample3.mpg

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Mac (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2002 1:57 am What is it like to be nullo? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

For some reason I find questions like this difficult to answer. Not because thay cause any distress or are intrusive (if I wasn't willing to share info I wouldn't have had info on line since 1994 . . .), but because there are so many facets and some may be of more importance than others to the reader.

I'll give it a shot by just listing some of the points that pop into mind while looking at these questions.

What is it like to be a nullo? Probably not as 'exciting' as others would hope for. I'd say that 99% of the people around me have no idea I'm modded in that way. Those who know are aware because I told them or made it somehow obvious. Very few have found out on their own.

So, that means that over 99% of the folks around me behave just as they did while I was still owner/operator of a trouser snake. That means that in relation to others there is less than a one percent change/difference.

For me personally the biggest differences are moving differently because of not having to make allowance for genitals getting in the way (sitting, standing, walking, crossing legs, whatever).

( the next few sort of get into 'disadvantages' . . . )

Another is having to squat to pee. This takes longer (can't just unzip, whip it out, pee, shake, stuff it back in, zip, but have to actually push clothing below the waist to a below the knee position then sit on the pot). This partial undressing, re-dressing takes extra time.

Add to that the necessity of finding sit-down accomodations rather than just standing in public restrooms adds a level of difficulty. Additionally, many public restrooms are filthy. In those instances one can feel OK standing a foot from a urinal and pissing into it, but may not want to sit on anything with one's naked butt . . .

While camping and such the level of difficulty and discomfort is even more increased by having to hang one's butt out in the open in some nasty weather . . .

There are devices, made for women in similar situations, that allow the stand, unzip, pee, zip performance, and I have used them camping and traveling.

An additional option in such situations is a Foley catheter with a clamp to start/stop the flow. Works nicely, but has the usual indwelling catheter potential problems.

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Mac (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2002 1:57 am What is it like to be nullo? What are the advantages and disadvantages?

Continued . . .

Continuing with disadvantages, there is the difficulty with personal interactions with those few who are made aware of the mods. With women (or should I say potential sexual partners - could be either sex but my thoughts go immediately to the women) there is the revulsion felt by some, the indifference felt by others, and the disbelief/shock of most. It does ad another level of difficulty in forming sexual attachments, and even adds difficulty to non-sexual interaction with some who are made aware of the situation.

With men (not being though of as sexual partners and excluding most members of forums like this) there is mostly shock and revulsion at the very thought of having one's penis hacked off. usually best if not brought up at all unless one is fairly sure of one's audience . . .

(I will have to admit that there are some in both of those camps who are intrigued or fascinated. They make life as a nullo enjoyable.)

The advantages are not having to pre-position and re-position one's genitals when doing such things as crossing one's legs, sitting, sliding out of bed, etc. If my genitals were to suddenly reappear I'd have a Hell of a time getting back into the unconcious habits that I've lost. I know I'd hurt myself before I re-learned them.

There is also an advantage in the way clothing fits. Let's face it, if one's genitals are at least more than a poor joke in size, they tend to be a bit bulky and have to be accounted for in the cut and fit of clothing. Without them in the way, it is much simpler, and the options are much wider. It's also much more comfortable.

(Yes, I tend to wear things that are fairly form-fitting in the crotch now that I can. It is very comfortable, and is psychologicly satisfying in an exhibitionistic way. What I wear usually leave little doubt that there is absolutely no room for anything even faintly resembling male human genitals in that vicinity.)

Heck, that's enough for now. It's been a long day.

Tomas (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2002 11:25 am Take care,

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how do men react when they find out you dont have it?

i think the sit to pee thing would be cool, a sort of

"mark of settting apart" from the regular crowd

Tomas (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2002 6:40 pm (Yes, I tend to wear things that are fairly form-fitting in the crotch now that I can. It is very comfortable, and is psychologicly satisfying in an exhibitionistic way. What I wear usually leave little doubt that there is absolutely no room for anything even faintly resembling male human genitals in that vicinity.)

Do people who see you like that come up to you and ask about your genitals?

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Tomas (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2002 6:21 pm Add to that the necessity of finding sit-down

> accomodations rather than just standing in public

> restrooms adds a level of difficulty. Additionally, many

> public restrooms are filthy. In those instances one can

> feel OK standing a foot from a urinal and pissing into it,

> but may not want to sit on anything with one's naked

> butt . . .

I almost always sit down to pee, because I never felt quite comfortable with handling my penis to stand up to pee for some reason.

I don't find public restrooms that bad (then again, judging from what I've heard, I haven't been to the really bad ones). If there's urine on the toilet seat (which I see occasionally), I can wipe it off with toilet paper first. Then, I cover both halves of the seat with 4 squares of toilet paper each and sit on it and go about my business.

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Tomas (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2002 6:21 pm Another is having to squat to pee. This takes longer

> (can't just unzip, whip it out, pee, shake, stuff it back

> in, zip, but have to actually push clothing below the

> waist to a below the knee position then sit on the

> pot).

For me, here's what I do to pee, when I'm at home (thus I know the toilet is clean):

1. Pull my pants down and sit on the pot.

2. Retract my foreskin. Make sure my penis is aimed into the bowl and not outside it.

3. Pee.

4. Wipe the drops of urine off my penis with toilet paper.

5. Pull my pants back up.

6. Wash my hands, since I touched my penis.

A guy without a penis could definitely skip step 2. What about skipping step 4 - are there stray drops of urine remaining after he's done peeing? And what about step 6?

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Tomas (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2002 6:21 pm There are devices, made for women in similar

> situations, that allow the stand, unzip, pee, zip

> performance, and I have used them camping and

> traveling.

For anyone who's wondering, here's what they look like:

http://www.travelmateinfo.com/

Oh yeah, that reminds me. Tomas, have you ever tried to do something like what's explained on this webpage (A Women's Guide on How to Pee Standing Up, Without Devices):

http://www.restrooms.org/standing.html

Then again, it makes reference to pulling on your labia in order to aim the stream, which you can't do.

cutmydick (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2002 7:13 am how do men react when they find out you dont have it?

The reactions vary, but are mostly on the negative side - perhaps from their own subconcious fears, I don't know.

For the most part they become self-concious, uncomfortable, stand-offish. Some become, for some unknown reason, belligerent (their own castration fears?).

One can end up being treated like a black at a KKK rally . . .

The other extreme are those who very strongly want to see or touch, and almost won't take "NO!" for an answer.

In the middle are those who are reasonably mature and intelligent who just view it as another datum, like my height or weight. This is as it should be. Unless a male is sizing me up as a sexual partner or sexual competitor, how I'm equipped should have NO bearing on how we interact. Sadly that's not the case.

In general only those men who already know me very well learn of it from me. I don't try to hide it, but it's not "Hi, I'm Tom, and I'm a eunuch" as an introduction. Sometimes they actually notice my crotch appears smooth from what I'm wearing, but that is rare. Honestly, most men do NOT spend their time looking at other men's crotches in public . . . (Women, however . . . )

Side Note: I have several gay friends, and I've gone to gay bars and such with them (quite a kick, actually). Depending on the club and it's atmosphere I've actually been rather thoroughly felt up on a casual basis by people I've never seen before and with luck would never see again.

(The "Tacky Tavern" comes to mind as such a place. The expressions on faces are interesting. The first was puzzled then more or less shocked, then an assortment of reactions moved across the room at high speed as word-of-mouth went by. Several just HAD to check it out themselves. It was all friendly (uh, very) and over fairly quickly when they found that I wasn't interested in anything further.)

This is not just something for the gay bars, though. I've been felt up by women, and even had one go fishing in my pants right on the dance floor (Thanks, Mia! That was fun! :p ) Personally, I much prefer the women, but to each their own.

Tomas (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2002 11:25 am http://home.earthlink.net/~zip98498/tomsig01.gif

happousai (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2002 8:17 am Do people who see you like that come up to you and ask about your genitals?

That is extremely rare. I o

happousai (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2002 8:26 am nly recall maybe two or three times in the last ten years.

For me, here's what I do to pee, when I'm at home (thus I know the toilet is clean):

1. Pull my pants down and sit on the pot.

2. Retract my foreskin. Make sure my penis is aimed into the bowl and not outside it.

3. Pee.

4. Wipe the drops of urine off my penis with toilet paper.

5. Pull my pants back up.

6. Wash my hands, since I touched my penis.

A guy without a penis could definitely skip step 2. What about skipping step 4 - are there stray drops of urine

remaining after he's done peeing? And what about step 6?

For me, step 4 is not terribly necessary, but is something I do (*blot* *blot*) a

happousai (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2002 8:26 am nd step 6, of course. "Always wash your hands . . ." etc.

Oh yeah, that reminds me. Tomas, have you ever tried to do something like what's explained on this webpage (A Women's Guide on How to Pee Standing Up, W

ithout Devices):

http://www.restrooms.org/standing.html

Yeah, I tried it, and so did my wife - worked for her but not at all for me. I think even more than not having anything to grab onto it was a problem of my opening being farther to the rear than hers was, and not nearly as flexible. Most I managed were some very messy sprays in various directions.

Tomas (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2002 11:25 am http://home.earthlink.net/~zip98498/tomsig01.gif

What is it like to be a nullo?

( disadvantages )

having to squat to pee ...

Tomas (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2002 6:21 pm the necessity of finding sit-down accomodations rather than just standing in public restrooms ... While camping and such the level of difficulty and discomfort is increased by having to hang one's butt out in the open in some nasty weather . . .

Squatting to pee becomes natural after doing it for awhile. However, many men's public restrooms have limited stall facilities. Women have always had to stick the

Tomas (imported) wrote: Fri Nov 08, 2002 6:40 pm ir bare butt out when peeing outside.

( advantages )

not having to pre-position and re-position one's genitals when doing such things as crossing one's legs, sitting, sliding out of bed, etc. ... also an advantage in the way clothing fits. ... Without them in the way, it is much simpler, and the opt

ions are much wider. It's also much more comfortable.All of those advantages sound great.

Tomas (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2002 8:56 am This is not just something for the gay bars, though. I've been felt up by women, and even had one go fishing in my pants right on the dance floor (Thanks, Mia! That was fun! :p ) Personally, I much prefer the women, but to each their own.

LOL! I just noticed your Favorite Quote in your Yahoo! Profile:

""WHERE'S YOUR THINGY?!??" (From a charming young lady, Mia, with her hand in my pants at a club...)"

What's the story behind that anyway, if I may ask? She decided to grope you and was surprised when couldn't find your penis? What happened after she said that?

happousai (imported) wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2002 12:50 pm LOL! I just noticed your Favorite Quote in your Yahoo! Profile:

""WHERE'S YOUR THINGY?!??" (From a charming young lady, Mia, with her hand in my pants at a club...)"

What's the story behind that anyway, if I may ask? She decided to grope you and was surprised when couldn't find your penis? What happened after she said that?

Well, we'd been doing some very close and suggestive dancing and she casually reached down to see if I was responding (yeah, I suppose that's a "grope"), and found nothing. She asked why and I told her I didn't have anything down there.

At that point she totally surprised me and reached inside my pants and fished about saying "Where's your thingy?!??" (Mia was nothing if not direct.)

Pretty simple story, really. As to what happened after that, I let her fish for almost another four years. She never did find what she was looking for, but we both enjoyed her efforts . . .

Below's a pic that was snapped of Mia and I "out on the town" one night nearly a year after our first encounter. Oh! That's right! That one you asked about? That was the night we first met . . .

Tomas (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 07, 2002 11:25 am http://home.earthlink.net/~zip98498/tomsig01.gif

After viewing the links, I A:Found a suspicious dampness in my antie-pays. B: Marvelled at the engineering involved.

I have a Sybian,a gift from u-kno-hu, and enjoy it all too much. In fact, I've asked for second one so that a galpal can saddle up, facing me, so we can ride the range together.:p

The Sybian is no substitute for the real "Thingy" since it has no heart, but at least one does not need a crew to set it up and operate it safely.

The other machines shown in the links look like something out of a torture chamber. And you'd better make sure your minister or Mom-in-law doesn't have a key to your house, LOL. Can you imagine someone, other than a sexual associate, walking in while you being "done" with one of those things?

I guess I still prefer the real "Thingy"!

Love,

FUBG

Official Sex Machine Test Pilot

Innocent Girl

hi,

i still have my penis. As you can see i mostly like it to be there and iam proud of the jewels it can carry

but sometimes i really love the idea of having it removed.

so i sometimes went to a clothing store (preffering those where you can get cheap clothes in an anonymous atmosphere)

and buy tight clothes (prefferring those made for girls, like stretch jeans).

after i've bought it i take it on, trying to hide my genitals with some tape (as they are not so big, its easy to get a nice nullo look with some tape).

than iam going into city, loving the lokking of girls when they recognize that there is possibly something missing between my legs !

...the mechanical instruments of "350 RPM" are noisy. Certainly nothing that you would want in an apartment with thin walls.

But of course, whooping and hollering on your sybian would make a lot of noise, too.

In my garage I have a small block 350 chevy engine on a dyno test stand with a flywheel and starter. It makes about 500 HP @ 470 ft/lbs of torque. We could put a couple of quiet mufflers from PEP boys on the headers to keep it quiet.

Then, I can mount a rod on the flywheel about 4" from the center. With the appropriate quide, a Wieder benchpress bench to lay on and firm dildo it could surely send you into another world at about 6500 RPM with an 8" stroke. That is, provided a quart of synthetic motor oil would not get hot enough from the friction to smoke. The problem is, if it got stuck up there and "locked up" it would rub all of the skin off of your ass and back before I could get it stopped.

Maybe we better not try it.

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that intrigues me is how you express yourself sexually. Do you have anyway to enjoy any finality to sexual interaction? Are you able to enjoy sexuality?

I too have not stood to pee for a long time, either at home or on the road. Eventhough I still have my dick, I would rather sit and pee. It is really easy. I just sit and with my left hand, hold the shaft downward and pee. After I am through, I wipe off. I am not cut, so it takes a little more to wipe off, but then that provides a little fun. Then I wash uo, and am on my way. I have found that by sitting, it keeps the bathroom much cleaner, and fresher smelling, not having all of the splatters around. I still want my dick and balls cut off though. So for me, it really would not change anything.

FianceeUvBigGuy (imported) wrote: Thu Nov 14, 2002 12:43 am I have a Sybian,a gift from u-kno-hu, and enjoy it all too much. In fact, I've asked for second one so that a galpal can saddle up, facing me, so we can ride the range together.:p

The Sybian is no substitute for the real "Thingy" since it has no heart, but at least one does not need a crew to set it up and operate it safely.

Of all the mechanical sex machines, the Symbian definitely seems the most satisfying to the women. After initial intrepidation, women who try it want to continue using it, and I think the orgasms they get are real (their whole body flushes from the pleasure). I think it is worth thinking about for any guys who can't please their women entirely with their "natural" gifts. Note however, that a real Symbian is pretty expensive!

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Mac (imported) wrote: Sat Nov 09, 2002 10:08 am What is it like to be a nullo?

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( the next few sort of get into 'disadvantages' . . . )

Another is having to squat to pee. This takes longer (can't just unzip, whip it out, pee, shake, stuff it back in, zip, but have to actually push clothing below the waist to a below the knee position then sit on the pot). This partial undressing, re-dressing takes extra time.

Add to that the necessity of finding sit-down accomodations rather than just standing in public restrooms adds a level of difficulty. Additionally, many public restrooms are filthy. In those instances one can feel OK standing a foot from a urinal and pissing into it, but may not want to sit on anything with one's naked butt . . .

While camping and such the level of difficulty and discomfort is even more increased by having to hang one's butt out in the open in some nasty weather . . .
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I squat or sit all of the time and don't find these to be major disadvantages, except for the lack of an adequate number of stalls in the men's restrooms.