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OK, I am really getting frustrated about finding information about pure penectomies. I have seen Tom's great web site and I think that his surgery was great. Here's the problem, I feel there are some strange people on here but I don't care. People have their rights to think and act as they wish and I applaud them for it. I am happily married with 4 kids and all are very young. My wife is tired of sex. She loves my but just is tired of having sex at all. On the other hand I am overly arroused alot of the time. I have always been true to my wife and never cheated, but it is frustrating to have an overactive libido and still want to make my wife happy. We have talked for about 3 years about a penectomy with castration such as the one on Tom's website - www.bmeworld.com/smooth.

I am frustraterd about 1)Finding a good surgeon that can perform the surgery like the one mentioned above. 2) The cost of the surgery, My wife and I can't afford it especially with 4 kids. and 3) This is very personal between my wife and I and I want it very private. I would be embarassed if others found out that know me, but my wife and I are totally prepared for the surgery and really feel it would be benefitial to our relationship.

Any advice?

Any advice?

Advice? Save up the money for a visit to Dr. Kimmel. This will reduce your sex drive to the point that you will be "in control". Once you get a legal castration, it may or may not be easier to find a Urologist willing to do the penectomy. Or you may have to save up more money for a trip to Thailand.

Here's the information on Dr. Kimmel:

http://www.geocities.com/sherrylanina/C ... ndWho.html

He charges up to $2000.

You could go with chemical castration and I would recommend it for you as the first step. This will let you see what it is like not having a sex drive and then you can base your decision of some reality. I don't think you have any idea the changes that you will experience, you may be able to explain them on paper but you have not lived it. It is not just that easy to cut it all off and life is grand. You say you and your wife are all for it, she is not the one having it all cut off. I don't mean to discourage you but if you were chemically castrated for a year, you would experience what it is like to be a eunuch and if you like it then make your trip to see Dr Kimmel, figure it will cost you between 4 and 5 thousand.

I think you need to take your time and think this through some more. We are all here to help in any way we can and many of us have gone down that road and are happy with the results, I know I am.

I agre with RIVERWIND first i think a person that is thinking about castration should use chemical castration first. You donot know how you will like it unles you try it first rember that surgery to remove testicles and penis is permanent and cant be put back togeather .I am on depo provera and i can say i donot care about sex anymore and my wife and i are very happy with this drug. As for penectomy you may not feel the need to do this once you have removed your sex drive. Good luck on your quest.

I sure do appreciate the advice. I've thought about all the possible solutions. Chemical or physical castration may be the route We/I am willing to take. From all the research we have done it may seem the best thing to do.

Honestly I'd say unless you are generally just wanting your penis gone, leave it alone. It is a much more difficult operation (apparently, I have not had it done) than castration is. Castration is what will give you the desired result of a lower sex drive.

I'm with the others here, that is the route to go. I'd highly recommend going the chemical route first. This way you can see if this is want you truly desire without going to the extreme of having your testicles physically removed.

If it is what you want, you can get your testicles removed later. If it isn't, you can come down off the drugs and you still have your testicles.

...and while you are at it make your old lady get hers cut as part of the deal.

After all, she doesn't want to use it again, does she?

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just as much do need to go. Your wife needs to add her own pleasure centers.

> Clitoris and labia

Blaise (imported) wrote: Sun Nov 10, 2002 6:51 pm just as much do need to go. Your wife needs to add her own pleasure centers.

Like this?

http://www.toddbertrang.com/pics/femcir ... 7days3.jpg

It's a mean world. If the guy can't play, why should the gal?

If any wife want's her husband to let go of his sexual pleasure, she and he might won't to consider the same thing for her.

fear, fantasy mixed with aging, fear of aging, fear of what I don't even know how to name come into play in these musings.

I have a penis that is no longer any good to me though it might become a source of pleasure and intimacy again. I spend hours looking at images of women without hair or getting shaved and tug away at my flaccid weenie. I have a girlfriend who shares that fantasy. I don't always know what to make our us, though I enoy our telephone consersations and sometimes visits to each other [we live in different parts of the country].

I have enough strange fantasies about the loss of sexuality and have had them long enough that they compose at least part of who I am. I have a kind of charged but frustrated sexual desire and fantasy life.

This board is intriguing to me. I enjoy the conversations, the ambiguities, and the energy here. I am amazed that what caught my attention at five and six-years-of-age still holds my attention.

There is something monstrous and evil about a woman [of man] not having complete sexual organs. And there is something fascinating about it too.

There is something fascinating and terrible about really facing the loss of one's testicles and one erections. I am uncertain and thrilled, afraid and intrigued all in the same moment.

On this board, I'm never quite certain what's real and unreal about me! Thanks for the images of clitless women. Somehow they hit home in an irrational way that I cannot name. I am horrified that this happens to women and yet I want to masturbate to the horrible images. If I could masturbate to them, I'm certain that I would.

I am intrigued by what others think and feel about these matters. I can accept that some of what turns me on would be an awful experience to most human beings. Still, I am intrigued that someone who considers himself tender-hearted feels this way. It's what Carl Jung said about accepting the shadow.

Blaise (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2002 4:59 am It's a mean world. If the guy can't play, why should the gal?

If any wife want's her husband to let go of his sexual pleasure, she and he might

[want] to consider the same thing for her.

In my case, I just desire to be nullified because (1) I dislike the sex drive and aggression caused by having testicles, and (2) I dislike how my penis gets in the way all the time, having to be adjusted when I change sitting positions, etc.

If I find a woman that I love in the future, it would certainly be a plus if she *preferred* me nullified. As to whether her vulva has been circumcised, either way would be fine with me. Although, I think there's something sexually alluring about a circumcised vulva. I think it looks neater, and there's also no labia to block the vaginal opening; she just has to spread her legs, and she's wide open. (If she was incapable of orgasm, then I might not have to give her cunningulus, though...)

The lack of labia is beautiful. That is part of the horror for me that I find it incredibly beautiful. A completely hairless, clitless, and labia free woman is beautiful. But it must be awful to live that way!

My horror about not having a cock or balls or having those that don't really work is the fascination with some primal fear faced in the real world. It is the same fascination in knowing that a woman has stolen from her what belongs to her as a right of simply being a human being.

For my surgery, I got a body shave. It looks awful and feels even worse. Yet, I ought to have gotten a full body shave when I was a weight lifter (not body builder as such) and had trim, hard muscles to enjoy. Now, I feel and look silly!

I think what is intriguing to me is how testosterone controles our mindes . With out it we are calm and more in control of our bodies with it we have all kindes of thoughts . Some of them beeing dangeries but we feel we need to do thies things regardless of how dangeries it may be .This is why i say to think every thing out befor you act on your thoughts and fantasies. For what you do today you have to live with the rest of your life so you better be sure of what you are doing.

seems to calm me! Desire makes me feel good. It makes me feel complete. When my medications interfer with normal sexual functioning, I am unhappy, unfulfilled, and incomplete. Common assumptions about the effects of testosterone may be mistaken.

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Blaise (imported) wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:26 pm When my medications interfer with normal sexual

> functioning, I am unhappy, unfulfilled, and incomplete.

A girl I know has said basically the exact same thing to me. She was on some sort of medication to manage menstrual symptoms I think, but stopped taking it because it decreased her sex drive and she didn't like that.

The weird thing (to me) is that she has a higher than normal sex drive and is somewhat frustrated because right now there's no one in her life to have sex with. Yet, she would rather have an unsatisfied sex drive than no sex drive.

without libido were much better than the months of impotence. What bothered me about not having desire was that I felt less than human.

Still, it was pleasant having time (on my hands!) just to smell the flowers.