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What reason do most give for the 'wrong' in the world? Human greed, 'evil'. Most just throw their hands up. I think that sex is the single greatest obstacle towards a better world. It divides us like nothing else.

I'm going to see if there are any others with this opinion on other boards, but wanted to ask here as its the only place that people have taken the step to lower testosterone. I want to see how much androcur I can sell!

I think when we don't have separate sexes, it will be viewed as something like throwing off the yoke of slavery, only much more significant.

I know more about female sexualty now than I ever did before I was castrated. My wife is now more open about her desires than before. I still take a active role in her sex life and I read her body language much better. I know when she wants sex and enjoy her talking about it. I have seen her naked in front of other men and don't mind a bit. Sex is great I wish I could acheve a errection on demand like most men.

ALLREADYDONE (imported) wrote: Thu Mar 06, 2003 4:47 pm I know more about female sexualty now than I ever did before I was castrated. My wife is now more open about her desires than before. I still take a active role in her sex life and I read her body language much better. I know when she wants sex and enjoy her talking about it. I have seen her naked in front of other men and don't mind a bit. Sex is great I wish I could acheve a errection on demand like most men.

You're still dealing with sex then. The idea is to get away from it. I suppose if she had a hysterectomy you would be more similar, but other differences would show up. Women and men are fundamentally the same, and I don't like the thought of leaving my very intelligent, well spoken girlfriend. But just think of how you wouldn't think about sex so much if you were alone or with another eunuch.

A good theory, but...

Was it sex that caused Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Janet Reno, or Saddam Hussein to kill scores of thier own people, including children?

All of these people killed for irrational or emotional means. Their sexual drive is just one more thing pulling people from the rational.

...why do you think that we are all here?

It is because we are not rational! ...we're NUTS...or maybe not.

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Sex is considered bad because it's used as a guilt trip.

It's a way of making sure that someone else doesn't enjoy themselves and rather submits to the "authority" ...

Sex is used as a control for the masses. Make them feel guilty for enjoying themselves and make them bend and sdcrape for forgiveness. That way, you control their behaviour.

Dave

Fen's question in Marcuse's splendid little essay "Eros and Civilization." Dave has summarized Marcuse's argument.

Dave (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 07, 2003 9:59 am Sex is considered bad because it's used as a guilt trip.

It's a way of making sure that someone else doesn't enjoy themselves and rather submits to the "authority" ...

Sex is used as a control for the masses. Make them feel guilty for enjoying themselves and make them bend and sdcrape for forgiveness. That way, you control their behaviour.

Dave

I don't seek to use sex to control (like maybe Muslims do), but to eliminate it. See, if sex does not affect you, then you cannot be controlled that way. You grow in power.

other late antiquity Romans. Eliminating sexual desire was the key to freedom. I don't understand why people fear their sexuality.

...paraphrased quote of Saint Augustine...

Oh Lord, grant me chastity....but not yet!!!!

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Blaise (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 08, 2003 9:56 am other late antiquity Romans. Eliminating sexual desire was the key to freedom. I don't understand why people fear their sexuality.

Not freedom, it's the key to survival. I suppose some people would rather be dead than celibate, but at some point they will have to make that choice. The more efficient eunuchs will have the power to kill anyone

You've lost me on that response.

Blaise (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2003 4:05 am You've lost me on that response.

It's full circle to natural selection. If it is a major advantage to be eunuch, the eunuch will live, and the others won't. Pretty simple.

The leaders of the Roman Catholic Church are a kind of eunuch creature. Is that your model?

Most "leaders" are...

Having been on Androcu for 5 months (till I couldn't afford it anylonger) I agree with you. By the way, how much do you charge for it?

Blaise (imported) wrote: Mon Mar 10, 2003 12:13 pm The leaders of the Roman Catholic Church are a kind of eunuch creature. Is that your model?

Not at all. The idea is to have basically geeks come together. Math and science would be the focus. Progress in every way would be the goals (speeding up evolution through genetic manipulation). I just think sex is the only obstacle to geeks who already think of progress.