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Hello!!!! This most likely is the end of my journey here. I never realized that I was amoung, shelfish un-caring people before. I always found that the people here where kind loving and understanding. After the responces that I recieved on a very simple issue, I have been called "spirutally sick", hard headed, compulsive, moving to fast, not listening, and so on.

I have stated, that I wonder how some people would react to all of us, if they knew we wanted our testicles cut off???? We say we are non-judgemental, kind loving people, and then, I find that you are no different than the rest of the prejudice, judgemental world, of balck and white. Talk about spiritually sick.

On top of judging me as I have chosen a different life style than most of you, Now Im hearing how you really felt about what I did and how I did it in reference to my surgery and my injecting myself. I gues you didn't care, but where just enjoying the entertainment. On top of that, your unkind words that have surfaced are those of people who are closed minded. Well you have hurt me for real. I think that along with your castrations, maybe you need lobodamies. You are no more normal or less normal than anyone else in this world. I will pray for you all in my 'spiritually sick kinda way. Ya know, I have found regular kinda men that know of my choices, and they have not judged me. We are good friends to this day. You all might want to investigate your own mental health, soiritual health, etc etc. If I listed all your qwarks here, from wearing funny clothing to your habbits and focusses in your lifes, you would all be locked up in a mental institution. I do wish you all the best. Do the world a favor, and do the new commer a favor, be real, be honest, and be loving, or get off this sight, you don't belong here. scottie

Can you give us a link to the thread in question, scottie?

Edit: Nevermind, I found it myself.

Scottie,

I am sorry for my comments, please forgive me. Please take a moment, deep breath, before you write us off. I dont think there is any member myself included that does not care for you. What you did last year had us all worried and I know I still worry about you, as I do all of the members of this site. You have asked for help with something that most of us know little about. There are other sites that can help you with your newest quest. You are a valued member of this site and we have never laughed at you, never. Scottie, you have scared the hell out of us, made us worry about you, but none of us has ever laughed at you.

What you did last year was very dangerous, how could you think that we dont care. I do think that what several of us feel is that you come in and ask us for advise then go do something else. No one has given you advise that would harm you. Please reconsider and again I am sorry.

River

Hi Scottie! In the time that I've been at EA, their have been many times that I was hurt or felt like leaving. Then somebody , like this and previous post's will say something very kind and then you think: Hey that person is O.K. We're all broken people here to one degree or another, that's why we are here. Sometimes ,myself included, we answer to post's without fully getting it. I assure you that the people at EA are all basically good folk's. If not, the Nun would throw them out. They are a family with hurts and dislikes. I'm glad you made this post, perhaps we will all be better for it.

Great Big Hugs, Leona Lee :hearthrob

I thank you and accept your appologies. The things you said is what I did beleive. I want to beleive. Ya know with the emotions of a eunuch, I sometimes get more emotional than when I had testicles. I made mistakes, and I almost lost my life. I know this, but it is what I have to accept. I have had to accept the pain, the healing. and all that went with it. I did listen to much of what was told of me. what I din't listen to almost killed me. Now I can advise others, and be of service to others. I will alwys be greatful to all those who cared and helped. I think thats why I was so hurt about this issue. I never ever expected to get blasted like I was. Thanks for your sentiments. scottie

Scottie,

Before you go off half popped, let's stop and think about what YOU put everyone HERE through when you first came onto the Boards.

You mention selfish people. You mention being hurt.

And you can honestly say, after the mess you got into, and the emotional strain that you put on some of these "selfish" people here, that the reaction that you just got, which you say "hurt you" comes as a surprise?

Talk about the pot and the fucking kettle...

You come with questions. You get answers.

You ask for advice. You get advice.

You disregard said advice, and get yourself into a mess.

Then you proceed to tell us all about said mess.

And still, you get support!

What else do YOU want from this site?

Then, when someone who sees it all coming again - and it probably was/is coming again, given your online personality here - calls you down for it. And you get mad.

I think you need to stop and take a breath, take a step back, and see where you're coming from here and just how stupid you sound when you do it.

Basically, I'll tell you the same thing I tell the boys here - if you're going to act like a toddler, I'll treat you like one.

Enough is enough.

Stay or go - it's your life.

Hi All at EA! Does everyone here think that this kind of treatment to Scottie is the right thing to do? I had given Scottie a green square for a hug.

When I looked again, he had red squares around the block. SUSPENDED. I would think that kindness would have been a better solution. Love is alway's a better way,

if I have spoke out of turn, I apoligise now. This is the way it looks to me.

Hugs, Leona :hearthrob

That mass of red squares came from ME.

It seems that with my post count, etc., for me to hit a reputation is either the breath of life or the kiss of death. I won't be doing that anymore.

I was the one who suspended Scottie for his post, because after what a lot of folks on the board here did to support him, he comes back with a reply like that.

It was unwarranted, and obviously, when confronted with the plain truth of what he was told, he didn't like it.

I am not the one to judge him as a person, or his lover, or anyone else involved. It's their lives. However, I will not tolerate such remarks towards those who come here and try to support others in need, even if they don't heed sensible advice to start with.

Some of the comments made were out of line, though laced with understandable frustration. Sometimes folks are at their least diplomatic when they are angry/frustrated/hurt/disappointed, etc.

Paolo wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2005 8:20 am I was the one who suspended Scottie for his post, because after what a lot of folks on the board here did to support him, he comes back with a reply like that.

Gee, someone has to be grown up enough here to stop this. Personally I think that some of the replies to Scottie were mean and nasty - and that if y'all persist in having to get the last word, then you will drive anyone away. SO go an apologize unconditionnaly - that means not trying to prove you were right (Again and again and again) let someone else have the last word. (the world doesn't end if you don't, you know)

If in being TOTALLY HONEST, you hurt someone's feelings, then apologize like a mensch and be done with it. I've done it and I certainly not less for it. And by the way most people never ask anyone for total honesty - THE COLD CRUEL FACTS !!! And it is wise never to give them to anyone so bluntly that you hurt them. There are a couple posts here that just take my breath away because they are so

Everyone should calm down, take a deep breath and stop battling the world.

Scotty they have hert me so bad i rearley post in here anymore but thats the way it goes I guess what i mean is the posts i have put in here recently and someone pulled them and i never flamed anyone i just said a few facts and poof it was pulled.so how can i post with fellings anymore knowing my posts will be pulled.Hmmmmmm you know i have never hert anyone in here

:hearthrob

sag111 (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:04 pm Scotty they have hert me so bad i rearley post in here anymore but thats the way it goes I guess what i mean is the posts i have put in here recently and someone pulled them and i never flamed anyone i just said a few facts and poof it was pulled.so how can i post with fellings anymore knowing my posts will be pulled.Hmmmmmm you know i have never hert anyone in here

Well, I sure have never seen anything out of line.Your a Loving person and we need you here.Balance the ship, so to speak. Great Big Hugs from Leona

Sag,

Even when a post is pulled, which is extremely rare, an Administrator always ALWAYS sees a note to where and why it was pulled. I don't recall ever seeing a post notification that one of your posts was pulled???

Please PM or email me about this.

Hi! I ddin't even know that I was suspended. Its ok, I didn't want anyone getting this upset anyway. I realize now that, we all have "issues" and evn the most enlightened is plagued by same. thank You, scottie

I would like to know what happened also!

sag111 (imported) wrote: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:04 pm Scotty they have hert me so bad i rearley post in here anymore but thats the way it goes I guess what i mean is the posts i have put in here recently and someone pulled them and i never flamed anyone i just said a few facts and poof it was pulled.so how can i post with fellings anymore knowing my posts will be pulled.Hmmmmmm you know i have never hert anyone in here

You are one of my favorite people whom I have encountered on this site. I have missed your posts, insight, warmth, and compassion. It is good to see your post and your name again.

Having contacted everyone with Mod/Admin powers, no one knows what happened to SAG111's said posts. They may have shown up as a preview for him, but they never made it into the PHP scheme of things. In fact, as far as the Board is concerned, they never even happened. I am at a loss to explain it.

Thanks Paolo for taking the time with this and yes if this happens again i will contact you and see if their is a problem.I do like posting here and i feel since i have been through a lot i can help others that have the same problems as i have.

This board has helped my through a very hard time in my life and i will alwasy be geratfull for that .

Again thanks for getting back to me on this matter i thought i realey pissed somone off

Thank you oh so much!!!! scottie

As always, civility and mutual respect are in order on any board. If I recall correctly, Scottie has a job (counseling) which is probably stressful at times, and, in any case, he is just the effusive sort. Yes, effusiveness can involve rash actions, and there is no question that he got himself into trouble with something rash he did. But It doesn't seem to me that the chastity belt thing was significant, and shouldn't have involved risks. I, too, know nothing about that sort of thing. Anyway, in my view, it's just a good idea to be mild and civil most of the time.

As far as Sag111 is concerned, I have no idea what the objection to his posts could have been. All the ones I ever saw were as congenial and positive as they could have been. What I'd say to Sag is, just shake off whatever somebody did that was negative. Being treated unpleasantly by a few people is part of life--many people get their only pleasure in life, from thinking they've made somebody else miserable. Concentrate on all the people that are your good friends, and ignore the people that aren't.

Just for the record, and everyone else as well:

Sag's posts never happened.

Somewhere between him sending them, and the server getting them, and the php processing handling them, they evaporated. NO ONE deleted them. They wandered off into computer la-la land...and no one knows why.

Yup Paolos right i think on this

sag,I was wondering why you stopped posting.You know the old saying,You can't please everyone.I stopped trying long ago.you'll always have a friend here with me.take care my friend.[twin]