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Are there any Christian men out there considering castration as a means of reducing unwanted same sex attraction?

Are there any who have done this?

Saul

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Saul (imported) wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:43 am Are there any Christian men out there considering castration as a means of reducing unwanted same sex attraction?

Are there any who have done this?

I don't know why same sex sexual attraction would be unwanted. I desire all sexual attraction. Sex is wonderful.

Castration will reduce all sexual attraction, both hetero and homo - equally. You can't change your sexual orientation by castration. Forget it.

Saul,

I'm with Jeff where he says, "

JeffEunuch (imported) wrote: Thu Sep 14, 2006 2:59 pm Castration will reduce all sexual attraction, both hetero and homo - equally. You can't change your sexual orientation by castration.

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I'm Christian, married, and was dealing with unwanted appetites for "paraphilias" (aka perversions). In addition to the perversions, I wanted to be a girl. Figuring my male libido had gone wacky, I got castrated in April 2005.

All sexual interest has vanished. Not just the perverted appetites but ordinary interest as well. Although my wife had lost interest due to menopause, she was starting to feel unattractive since I NEVER made advances anymore. Haven't masturbated for a year; no need, no desire.

But you know what? The desire to be a girl has remained undiminshed. And if anything, my sexual orientation has shifted a little toward men. Not talking arousal, just that I'd like the female role.

At least with castration, one can control desire. Some eunuchs take HRT a few days prior to lovemaking. After that, they can stop HRT and be done with desire until next time.

In case you are wondering, I felt the Lord enabling my castration. My always-full schedule at work opened up in a way never seen before -- two high-profile projects both got delayed by other causes for a month. Nor have I regretted castration; it's nice not having perverted appetites.

Surprisingly, you won't find any preachers interpreting Matt. 5:29-30 literally. They may interpret everything else literally, but not those verses. But Jesus meant them literally. Sometimes, it is best to cut off the testicles so that the "little head" doesn't take you in a direction you don't want to go.

May the Lord guide you through this tough area,

Bryan/Terri

I am in full agreement with the above posts. Castration would be a very drastic step to take just to reduce a homosexual desire. I would recommend some counselling at this point. When I was a young man, I always wondered if I was Gay because most of my sexual experiences had been with males. After getting some counselling, I found that I was actually a heterosexual without much experience.

Castration would nullify all sexual desire. And please don't try a DIY operation, you will regret it.

We all are what we are - some are heterosexual and some folks are not. You need professional advice to help you figure out what you are and what you really want to be. Changing your sexual orientation is not a trivial process like changing the color of your socks.

All of the responses have correct. What you are feeling is ok and natural. Don't beat yourself up and make a life changing decision so quickly. There are people you can talk to confidentially about these things and there are great people here on the board you can talk to about how you're feeling.

I don't think anyone here on the board hasn't gone through what you are experiencing.

Please don't do anything drastic. Take your time to work things out and talk to the people on the board.

Hello Jeff, Bryan, Kangan & Taylor (Sounds like a firm of lawyers! LOL)

Thank you for your replies. I am not going to do anything drastic in the immediate future - thank you for your concern.

My mail if for two reasons. For myself and for the rights of other men who have excessive and (for them) inappropriate sex drives. I have changed my profile a little to reflect this.

I feel that castration is a right for those men who really want to go for it. It should be more widely available - after appropriate time and coulseling of course.

Men who want to become women seems te be acceptable these days. (And so it should be). Testicular and penile castration with cosmetic reconstruction, sylicone bags stuffed up the armpits, a blonde wig, new name like Monique and off you go. (LOL no disrespect to transexuals) But men who want castration for more suptle reasons to reduce sexdrive to live a celibate life for example as men - that remains schoking.

I'm glad I've found this message board!

Saul

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Hi,

I am a Christian looking forward to being a eunuch. What ever your reasons for wanting castration are the Bible is solidly in favor of castration.

In Isaiah 56:4 God says To the eunuchs who keep my sabbaths,who choose what pleases me and hold fast to my covenant- to them I will give ...a memorial and a name better than sons and daughters...an everlasting name that will not be cut off.

Jesus said, In Matthew 19:12 For some are eunuchs because they were born that way, others were made that way by men; ....The one who can accept this should accept it.

And in Acts 8:27 an angel sent Phillip to meet the Ethiopian eunuch on a desert road. This scripture is a little long but it says in summary that the Ethiopian eunuch asks to be become a Christian, and Phillip baptizes him

What I read in these scriptures is that God accepts seeks and loves EUNUCHS as well as anyone.

thankyou:

SteveA

SteveA,

Speaking of the Ethiopian eunuch, makes you wonder why Scripture brings out the fact the person was a eunuch. Was there something distinctive in appearance? To underscore his high rank in Candace's court? My guess is it signifies a warm welcome to eunuchs in the new Kingdom.

Terri

As a Christian, yes, very much part of my decision to want to be a Eunuch was my unwanted sexual attration to other homosexuals. It is very hard to interweave being a Christian and being homosexual. The church makes it so hard for you then. I know I need the support of other Eunuchs everyday. I am so thankful for Eunuch Archive's support.

Do you think God really cares whom you love? Isn't loving more important than the sex of the one you love? If God hates homosexuals, why did he make so many of them?

Don't cut off your balls because you're afraid of loving. Even if it's just sex you want, there's nothing wrong with that, as long as you don't hurt someone.

If you believe in a God that hates you because you're homosexual, maybe your belief in that God is what needs changing. Get yourself a different God. That one's an asshole.

You're inseperable from God. He can't hate you, because you're part of him. It's your belief -- your view of God -- that needs to be changed; re-examine it; don't cut off your balls.

Slammr (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2006 9:27 am Do you think God really cares whom you love? Isn't loving more important than the sex of the one you love? If God hates homosexuals, why did he make so many of them?

Don't cut off your balls because you're afraid of loving. Even if it's just sex you want, there's nothing wrong with that, as long as you don't hurt someone.

If you believe in a God that hates you because you're homosexual, maybe your belief in that God is what needs changing. Get yourself a different God. That one's an asshole.

You're inseperable from God. He can't hate you, because you're part of him. It's your belief -- your view of God -- that needs to be changed; re-examine it; don't cut off your balls.

i AM GETTING CUT FOR SPIRITUAL REASONS.. BUT NOT BECAUSE i AM GAY

I believe Matthew 19:12 can be interpreted on one level at least to refer to literal castration, and I believe that the one who can accept it should.

But the vast majority of men cannot accept it, and if you don't feel God calling you to castration, then chances are that you fit into this majority.

While not saying one way or the other how I feel about it, I will say I can understand the position of the gay man wanting castration because of his desires.

In any event, you will probably want to think this out very well before you take any action. Castration is irreversible as you probably know. Once they're gone, you don't get them back ever again. You will never be the same person again. Things can never be how they were before. So make the decision you feel is right and think it out thoroughly.

Hello "OneBallBoi"

Christian homosexuals can try and live happily with their sexuality. Many do. Others modify their spiritual beliefs to fit. Maybe this covers more than 99%.

But for those who cannot make this match and compromise, and have great difficulty remaining celebate - castration (chemical and/or surgical) is a real option which should be respected. This if combined with low level HRT has all the known benefits of eunuch life with reduced urges which could lead the man to get AIDS, hepatitis A to Z and all the rest.

Several men wanabe ex-gay have mailed me privatly about this. Also heterosexual christian men who get themselves into a mess with agressive sexual behaviour have mailed. They feel I have hit on a point that speaks to them.

Saul

God gave me the capacity to love. He gave me the desire to love men. He gave me a man to love above all other men. My desires to be a eunuch stem from God making me neutral of gender in my heart and mind. My great need to become a eunuch in order to cure my problems of sexual addiction came from the hands of humans in acts that were far from human. It is important to seperate what comes from God as opposed to what is caused by man.

Saul (imported) wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:24 am Hello "OneBallBoi"

Christian homosexuals can try and live happily with their sexuality. Many do. Others modify their spiritual beliefs to fit. Maybe this covers more than 99%.

But for those who cannot make this match and compromise, and have great difficulty remaining celebate - castration (chemical and/or surgical) is a real option which should be respected.

I don't agree. Anyone who believes homosexuality (or, for that matter, masturbation) to be a sin needs to either find another religion or find a way to accept that they will sin.

Saul (imported) wrote: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:24 am This if combined with low level HRT has all the known benefits of eunuch life with reduced urges which could lead the man to get AIDS, hepatitis A to Z and all the rest.

You exaggerate greatly. Using a condom is a far easier (and ultimately safer) way to avoid HIV and hepatitis. Furthermore, safe and effective vaccines are available for hepatitis A and hepatitis B.

I am in discussion with four men privatly about this. One is a Buhdist monk who was castrated 10 years ago and is very happy with his calm. He was previously preocupied with sexual ideas relating to fellow monks. One is a straight man who had a "self abuse" problem, who after many DIY attempts achieved surgical castration. The other two are 'Ex-gay" men who are in a trajectory for castration.

Yes its for a very small minority. Its drastic. But it gives them the life they want.

If transexuals can do it because they believe they are women trapped in mens bodies then why not these men?

Fine for people who have their head together and have the condoms.

For those Chrisian men who pre-casration wake up weekend after weekend with yet another rectum full of some unknown mans seamen, it may be a very effective way of saving a whole lot of disease and guilt. What do they need - yet another poster campaign? Lets face it, it works with cats and dogs. It works with hypersexual men who do not want to live this way.

Saul

Saul (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 18, 2006 3:29 am Fine for people who have their head together and have the condoms.

For those Chrisian men who pre-casration wake up weekend after weekend with yet another rectum full of some unknown mans seamen, it may be a very effective way of saving a whole lot of disease and guilt. What do they need - yet another poster campaign? Lets face it, it works with cats and dogs. It works with hypersexual men who do not want to live this way.

Saul

Have you tried condoms? They'll keep the semen out of your ass -- also might keep away the diseases. The guilt? That's something you'll have to work on yourself.

If you want to cut off your balls -- cut off your balls -- but spare us this Christian moralizing about homosexuality.

Hello Everyone,

I am really pleased with all the reactions I am getting on this topic. It has clearly struck a cord - the combination of faith, sex and castration, not only for "ex-gay" men but also for sexual offenders and a surprising number of straight men. I for one have come on a long way in a short time. I have learned a great deal from men who have been there and done this - particularly that faith driven castration is an issue that is not conifined to Christianity alone.

There is a marked difference in tone between many of the public replies and all but one of the private ones. One theoretical and ethical, the other more desparate and pragmatic; Often actually very sad to the point of tragedy.

I am now bowing out of this public discussion. Please feel free to send private mail to me if you wish.

Saul