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Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:40 pm**

Hello

It is a great privilege for me which to be among you. That made a few weeks that I was recorded on this site but as my source language is not English (I am a French man), I am not always at ease to express me as I would like it. Also, I would not do many appearances in the forums. However, I learned already much from things with the various very interesting topics suggested on this site.

When I read testimonys of men who underwent a voluntary castration, I note that certain men are satisfied to be castrated and that other men regret having made it. I have a question on this subject: is there a correlation between the satisfaction of castration and the age (starting from a certain age, are the men satisfied to be castrated than the young men)?

If I put this question, it is because I think of the male menopause of the man (myth or reality?) as from 50 years which involves a loss of the libido, if my information is exact. It is thus perhaps probable that a man voluntarily castrated after 50 years is less affected by castration than a young man. What do you think about it?

Yours sincerely.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:00 pm**

Hello

Philos (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2006 10:40 pm When I read testimonys of men who underwent a voluntary castration, I note that certain men are satisfied to be castrated and that other men regret having made it. I have a question on this subject: is there a correlation between the satisfaction of castration and the age (starting from a certain age, are the men satisfied to be castrated than the young men)?

If I put this question, it is because I think of the male menopause of the man (myth or reality?) as from 50 years which involves a loss of the libido, if my information is exact. It is thus perhaps probable that a man voluntarily castrated after 50 years is less affected by castration than a young man. What do you think about it?

Yours sincerely.

I am over 60. While I am not experiencing male menopause (if there is such a thing), I do notice a slight decrease in sexual desire. My feeling is that an older man would experience a lesser effect of castration than a younger more virile man.

So I find this question of great interest. The only problem is that the answers will be subjective and not scientific since there is no way to perform a castration twice on a person, once when young and again when old in order to make a proper comparison.

Posted: **Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:55 am**

I am 57 and never felt the slightest drop in sexual desire -- until using DP. I had a dramitic drop in t-levels with some side-effects. But the biggest fan is my wife. Less pressure and now more closeness. She definately liked our drives closer. This seems to mirror a lot of statements from men married for a long time.

Don

Posted: **Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:23 am**

This is exactly what I've been worried about too. I'm planning to begin chemical castration, and I have normal T levels (mid 500s)--I'm 28 and physically a very healthy male. There's a big difference between jumping from a curb versus jumping from a third-floor window, and diet probably has a lot to do with it too. Let's be honest here--T has a lot of good effects along with some of the more unsavory ones--it's a useful metabolic hormone and it has a big effect on promoting mental function. I'm REALLY glad that some of the advice from people here has kept me from jumping right into this, since if you're in my position, there is a definite tradeoff to be made.

I'll discuss this more in another thread where I more formally introduce myself and discuss my goals (I don't want to hijack your thread), but you've really nailed an issue that I want to see explored more.

Posted: **Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:20 am**

graylayer02 (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:23 am This is exactly what I've been worried about too. I'm planning to begin chemical castration, and I have normal T levels (mid 500s)--I'm 28 and physically a very healthy male. There's a big difference between jumping from a curb versus jumping from a third-floor window, and diet probably has a lot to do with it too. Let's be honest here--T has a lot of good effects along with some of the more unsavory ones--it's a useful metabolic hormone and it has a big effect on promoting mental function. I'm REALLY glad that some of the advice from people here has kept me from jumping right into this, since if you're in my position, there is a definite tradeoff to be made.

I'll discuss this more in another thread where I more formally introduce myself and discuss my goals (I don't want to hijack your thread), but you've really nailed an issue that I want to see explored more.

Go for it! I have no regrets!

Studlover

Posted: **Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:14 am**

Everyone is different, age might seem to indicate that some older eunuchs enjoy their lives more or have less disatisfaction after castration, but I really believe that age doesn't factor in as much as we might think. If you truly want and need to be castrated, you won't regret it. I think some younger men who have gotten castrated were into fantasy and took the next step of actually getting castrated, then they regretted it. So I think it's the "fantasy angle" that causes some to regret their castrations.

Posted: **Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:20 am**

I'm 25 and was castrated 4 years ago, and did have some problems after castration with depression - some of which can probably be attributed to the sudden drop in testosterone and issues that I was struggling with. Though everyone is different, I think younger people will probably notice a bigger difference.

Nobody can say "do it" or "don't do it", this is your decision and you are unique! The more you can explore your reasons for wanting castration before doing anything, the less troubles you will probably face after.

If you can lay these issues to rest without surgery, you will be happier - surgery is not a good way to go! HOWEVER, I am a young-ish eunuch who is 99.9% happy with who I am today.

I would not change what was done, though I would like to have worked through the issues that led me here with myself before going through surgery.

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:00 am**

Hello

I would like to thank you all for your welcome answers. I excuse myself not to have answered you earlier but I exchanged some messages with Frenchcast during these last days. I made a point of also answering each one among you presenting as much as possible some new ideas and questions.

Thank you once again. That serenity is with you.

Yours sincerely.

Philos

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:02 am**

Kangan (imported) wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2006 11:00 pm I am over 60. While I am not experiencing male menopause (if there is such a thing), I do notice a slight decrease in sexual desire. My feeling is that an older man would experience a lesser effect of castration than a younger more virile man.

So I find this question of great interest. The only problem is that the answers will be subjective and not scientific since there is no way to perform a castration twice on a person, once when young and again when old in order to make a proper comparison.

Hello Kangan

Thank you for your answer. I am happy my question did not leave you indifferent. Although men can't be castrated twice (once when he is young and once when he is older), the correlation to which I referred related to the comparison between the two groups of individuals and not for each individual (I do not know if I express myself well, it is a little difficult for me, I know that I have progress to make but I do not despair !). If it was a joke, I don't mind ! By the way, laughing is good for health and in France we used to say : « le rire est le propre de l'Homme ».

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:04 am**

DonnyMac (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:55 am I am 57 and never felt the slightest drop in sexual desire -- until using DP. I had a dramitic drop in t-levels with some side-effects. But the biggest fan is my wife. Less pressure and now more closeness. She definately liked our drives closer. This seems to mirror a lot of statements fr
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Hello Don

Thank you for your answer. I am very happy for you that your wife is satisfied with this new closeness. But I am afraid not to have understood the direction of your last sentence (french people have no gift for languages, you know !).

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:06 am**

graylayer02 (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:23 am This is exactly what I've been worried about too. I'm planning to begin chemical castration, and I have normal T levels (mid 500s)--I'm 28 and physically a very healthy male. There's a big difference between jumping from a curb versus jumping from a third-floor window, and diet probably has a lot to do with it too. Let's be honest here--T has a lot of good effects along with some of the more unsavory ones--it's a useful metabolic hormone and it has a big effect on promoting mental function. I'm REALLY glad that some of the advice from people here has kept me from jumping right into this, since if you're in my position, there is a definite tradeoff to be made.

I'll discuss this more in another thread where I more formally introduce myself and discuss my goals (I don't want to hijack your thread), but you've really nailed an issue that I want to see explored more.

Hello Graylayer02

Thank you for your answer. I understood that my question was useful and I am very happy that it provided to you food for thought.

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:07 am**

Studlover (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2006 7:20 am Go for it! I have no regrets!

Studlover

Hello Studlover

Thank you for your answer and as for all the messages written in french language and perfectly comprehensible as you sent to me a few weeks ago. I am happy to see you go well.

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:09 am**

Hash (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:14 am Everyone is different, age might seem to indicate that some older eunuchs enjoy their lives more or have less disatisfaction after castration, but I really believe that age doesn't factor in as much as we might think. If you truly want and need to be castrated, you won't regret it. I think some younger men who have gotten castrated were into fantasy and took the next step of actually getting castrated, then they regretted it. So I think it's the "fantasy angle" that causes some to regret their castrations.

Hello Hash

Thank you for your very relevant answer. I agree with you : I also think that the age is not the only criterion to be taken into account in the decision of (physical) castration in the broad sense (bilateral orchiectomy with or without penectomy). However, it seems to me that it would be judicious to wait the favourable moment for such a decision. During antiquity, a philosopher- Socrate- said : « know yourself ». So, I think that castration should be decided only if our mind is closely persuaded that it will bring the waited benefit : calm, serenity, self-acceptance of body, ... But self-knowledge can take several years. Actually, when self-knowledge is reached, I think that the mind is prepared with the events occuring in the life : death of close people of course, but also important decisions (such as decision of castration). Concerning the age to which self-knowledge is reached, it depends of people, of course. However, I read interesting information in a relevant study concerning the performances at work (it acted of the executives working in many companies but I don't know any more how the level of performance was evaluated) which could have a link with self-knowledge. When the men are young, the level of performance is of course the best. From about 35 years old, the level of performance decreases to reach the minimum between 42 and 43 years old. But starting from this age, the level of performance goes up. When I compare my personal case with this study, I find that there is truth : I feel myself indeed more productive now than 5 or 6 years ago. More precisely, I find that I know myself better since the age from 44 years old : I know now what is really important in my life and what I really. Would this be the age of decision ?

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:11 am**

thefraj (imported) wrote: Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:20 am I'm 25 and was castrated 4 years ago, and did have some problems after castration with depression - some of which can probably be attributed to the sudden drop in testosterone and issues that I was struggling with. Though everyone is different, I think younger people will probably notice a bigger difference.

Nobody can say "do it" or "don't do it", this is your decision and you are unique! The more you can explore your reasons for wanting castration before doing anything, the less troubles you will probably face after.

If you can lay these issues to rest without surgery, you will be happier - surgery is not a good way to go! HOWEVER, I am a young-ish eunuch who is 99.9% happy with who I am today. I would not change what was done, though I would like to have worked through the issues that led me here with myself before going through surgery.

Hello Thefraj

Thank you for your answer. Your testimony is useful and reassuring. It is true that each man is unique. Our own conviction is undoubtedly the main thing to take into account when self-knowledge is reached. I am happy you really enjoy your life. I find you very cute on the picture, indeed !

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2006 6:43 am**

Philos (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:04 am Hello Don

Philos (imported) wrote: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:02 am Thank you for your answer. I am
very happy for you that your wife is satisfied with this new closeness. But I am afraid not to have understood the direction of your last sentence (

french people have no gift for languages, you know !).

Philos, what I meant is that many married men are in a similar situation -- a mismatched sex drive. That was one reason my doctor was so supportive. She said that many men when they are married a long time tend to have almost the same drive as when younger but the wives tend to taper off. This leads to bitter feelings by both the husband and wife and often leads to divorce. By reducing my drive, my wife are more in sync. I know several other couples in the same situation.

Posted: **Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:54 am**

What ever you do, take your time. Dont hurry into this or let anybody push you into castration.

Do chemical castration first, I used Androcur from a German Drug Company. It worked well and helped me make my decision. Take castration on a test drive and see how you like castration and take it for a year of more, in that time you will start to understand what being a eunuch is. Get your doctor on board with what you are doing and why, have him monitor you from this point forward. All of this will help you make that finally decision more then anything else.

Durning that year learn everything you can about castration and the effects is has or can have on you, only then if everything is still a go, have the castration.

Good luck and remember any question you have about castration can be answered here, what you will find is that everybody is different and what happened to me or what will happen to you will not be the same. The thing we can do is give you a heads up and be here for you.

River

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