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uk people,
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 12:08 am
by ukboy20 (imported)
looking to be castrated, i live in london, am 21 years old and would very much like some help
if you could send me in the right direction it would be fantastic
Re: uk people,
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:59 am
by colin (imported)
You are very young to make such a life changing decision.
Try making contact with 'The Fraj' who is frequently on this site.
He is not much older than you and was castrated some years ago. He is honest enough to say that there were issues that he did not think through and which have caused him some problems. Fortunately, with support from family and friends he seems to have adjusted and would be a good source of information for you.
Re: uk people,
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 7:06 am
by ukboy20 (imported)
i realise its young but i know what i want, i have taken chemicals to stop testosterone, i felt happer than ever before
Re: uk people,
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:07 am
by Hash (imported)
Check the posts of "homptydumpty." He is your age and was castrated recently by Dr. Kimmel.
Re: uk people,
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:53 am
by homptydumpty (imported)
I wish I knew a way to turn you... I would hate to be the one to point you in a foul direction. I wouldn't saw its worth it to come all the way to the US, only because my tests results haven't come back yet. I do have a deep down fear that the putrid place I excepted my fait in may lead to some ungodly disease or virus such as HIV, Hepatitis.
I must say aside from the surgery, everything is beautiful.
z
Re: uk people,
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:16 pm
by Paolo
How long, as for the chemicals, and what affects have you experienced so far?
When you test drive the new car, you don't just cruise town with the radio on.
You try and burn off the tires, blow the speakers, and see if that 140 mph speedometer goes all the way up.
(Apologies if you've posted this data; I'm a bit behind.)
What I'm getting at is the test drive on chemical castration should last longer, so you will KNOW the full effect. If you're confident that you can live with it, only then should you proceed.
Whether chemical, surgical, or due to complications of disease, the effects of testosterone withdrawal are the same. The lifestyle change is the lifestyle change.
The big question is, do you want to make it permanent - or risk damage control with HRT later on if it turns out to be a mistake?
Re: uk people,
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:35 pm
by ukboy20 (imported)
amazing thing happened today, i told my dr, ex bf about all of this, i knew he knows alot about the subject. he is prepared to do it in 9 months time is the nhs decides not.
Re: uk people,
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 1:24 pm
by kristoff
ukboy20 (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:35 pm
amazing thing happened today, i told my dr, ex bf about all of this, i knew he knows alot about the subject. he is prepared to do it in 9 months time is the nhs decides not.
This is the best approach you can take, I think! Good wishes
Re: uk people,
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:53 pm
by Quillman (imported)
I wish you the best of luck- it is the first time I have ever heard of any Doctor in the NHS in the UK that was prepared to help in this way.
I should mention that the only route for most of us in the UK is the Belgium Clinic if you can afford the two thousand euro fee.
Cheers
Quillman UK
Re: uk people,
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:58 am
by JesusA
ukboy20 (imported) wrote: Tue Nov 28, 2006 12:35 pm
amazing thing happened today, i told my dr, ex bf about all of this, i knew he knows alot about the subject. he is prepared to do it in 9 months time is the nhs decides not.
If this does come to pass, you will be the second Archive member I know of who has convinced the NHS to perform a voluntary castration. It certainly isn't easy. But, it isn't impossible either.
Nine more months on chemical castration will help you to decide if this is really right for you or not. Make certain that you do all of your homework on the long-term physiological effects. Read the thread "Consequences of Castration" on the Nonfiction Board for some brief life stories. Carefully read Phil's long thread detailing his experiences.
Make certain you know as much as possible before taking any irreversible step.
Best of luck.
Re: uk people,
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:31 am
by thefraj (imported)
Hi UKBoy (and everyone)! Sorry for not replying sooner. I'm here in the UK too, and was about your age when I went to see Dr Kimmel.
Because of the nature of this thread, and some bad thoughts recently, I found I couldn't write a response even though I tried. Looking at the clock I can say that it has taken me two hours to write this. My own words are starting to irritate the hell out of me. And I guess I found that some of my own issues havn't yet been put to bed entirely. (maybe 75% of them had?)
I can't pretend to know exactly how you feel, but I know how much you want this and how much risk you'll be willing to take to get it. I know I did. It would be wonderful if you can persuade doctor(s) in the UK that this is right for you, for your mental health and wellbeing. And receive the qualified medical help you deserve. You will be very fortunate (and in fairly safe hands!) if you can persuade your doctors of this.
And this 9 months may actually come as a bit of a blessing in disguise. Just as Jesus said, chemical castration will give you the same effect as being cut, without doing anything irreversible. You can be a eunuch even without cutting. And discontinue the medication and you'll be back the way you were.
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Anyway, I'm going to stop right there, because there's something I consider more important to watch out for. After castration, watch out for depression! I had some issues that I thought I had entirely dealt with. I now realize, after talking about this whole subject with friends from Form Media, and here in this thread, that I still have some demons. And these demons are empowered by societies refusal to accept this whole subject. Societies heterosexual, hyper-mascline/hyper-femanine role models and views.
When I tried going to my doctor at 17, I was offered a course of psyhotherapy that my parents forced me into, to "help me deal with my sexual issues". I was sick. I am sick. This is where these bad thoughts come in. This is what gives those demons power.
It is not normal to want to be castrated, is it? It is worth thinking about this for a moment. I don't say this as a negative thing. You know what you want. I know what I wanted. I wonder what makes us feel this way? I don't know. I suspect the answer is like asking someone why they are gay, or transgendered. Maybe we are all sick in some way? Defective and lacking as human beings. Like a broken mechanical part of society that doesn't function as expected. Maybe our only place - besides the very rim of society - is in a mental institute, or the kilns of Auschwitz-Birkenau?
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Anyway, normally I would edit everything above this line. It was just my thoughts and feelings transposed into words. And I suppose I just wanted people to know I have been watching this thread. I just wish I could be more use to UKBoy right now. I hope - in a strange way - by airing my deamons I hope to at least show what my problems were dealing with it.
I certainly wish you the best of luck, however it happens. Just please try and make sure you are safe.
AND PLEASE try the chemical route before doing any surgery!
Re: uk people,
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 1:37 pm
by ukboy20 (imported)
thanks guys