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Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:22 am
by TheWannabe (imported)
I'm 21 years old. By now, it has become obvious to me that I am never going to find the girlfriend I want. I'm not handsome myself, and even start to become a little fat, yet I would never want an ugly girlfriend. Despite this, I don't consider myself superficial. I simply have been searching for a beautiful, sweet, cute, and intelligent girl. All my attempts over the years have been fruitless. I am now depressed and everything feels hopeless.
I have a lot of femdom fantasies -- I've had them since a little kid -- but I think I'm 50% submissive and 50% dominant. I have castration fantasies. This story I would love to have happen to me:
http://www.asstr.org/~Kristen/putrid/casparty.htm
Alright. I don't have the balls to cut off my own balls(!). Even if it was done in the way I want to to be done, or in a hospital without pain, I would probably regret it afterwards.
Yet I can't stop thinking of how nice it would be to finally be releaved from the constant pain of being overly horny all the damn time. I will most likely never get to live out my fantasies, not even if I become really rich. So wouldn't the most humane thing for me to do to get castrated?
Like many of you, the thought of a beautiful, dominant female forcing my balls off turns me on. But what's after that? I have read a lot about eunuchs, so I have a pretty good idea, but I don't think it's possible to fully grasp how it feels until you've done it. And I probably won't do it.
But GOD I hate the feeling of those stupid balls between my legs. It would be nice to just have a penis there. And frankly, I hate cleaning up the cum after I've jerked off. No cum would just be a pro side for me...
But I guess it's hard to get hard when you have no balls. Hrm...
Aren't there any pills that you can eat that have no side effects and simply make you lose interest in sex? I would love to learn about those. Especially if they are cheap. This would be much better than getting a castration, which is so definite and permanent.
I guess if there were any such thing, most of you wouldn't seek castration. But I guess I can always hope for them to come up with this "reversed viagra" pill. (I would buy from a spam mail if they offered me it!)

Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:42 am
by confuzed (imported)
TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:22 am
Aren't there any pills that you can eat that have no side effects and simply make you lose interest in sex? I would love to learn about those. Especially if they are cheap. This would be much better than getting a castration, which is so definite and permanent.
There is a drug called Androcur that will help lower your desire for sex..
If you do a search in the Chemical Castration & Hormones section you will find more details on it..
Welcome to the site and I hope you get sorted...
Confuzed
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:49 am
by Paolo
Welcome to the zoo, buddy!
What you posted here reads to me like ALL the WRONG reasons to get castrated. If you're already depressed, it will probably only get worse.
To be blunt and to the point, if you get yourself castrated right now, as I read your post, you're making the biggest mistake of your life to date. For you, there would nothing "humane" about it.
As 'confuzed' recommends, there are some drugs you can try, with fully reversible effects after a short time off of them, that will mimic the effects of castration.
Cutting your balls off is forever. Chemical castration over a few months or so is not.
Please stay around and make use of the search function to find more threads to read.
http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/search.php
Just punch in depression, androcur, depo provera, etc. Happy reading!
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:43 am
by wolverine1 (imported)
I totally agree with Paolo - If you're reading this please reconsider! I don;t mean to be patronising, but at your age there is every possiblility that your high sex drive could be the latter end of puberty?
I'm not claiming to be an expert but were you a 'late bloomer'? I didn't start puberty until about 14/15, but I had friends who didn't start until 16 - maybe your 'overactive' drive is normal, but you're more aware of it than you would have been at say 16? that's not forgetting that puberty can last for quite some time once things get moving so to speak.
I'm not saying 'do it' or 'don't do it', but I would ask you to seriously consider the outcome of such a life-changing decision - how long have you been thinking about this? personally, i've been interested in castration for a whole host of reasons since I was 16, and yet now at 29, i'm still intact and it's only now (through circumstances and support from people here in the archive) that i'm starting to feel comfortable enough that it's the right decision for me...
well, that's all I can say for now - I hope it helps, if you wanna talk then please drop me a line. best wishes, j

Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:58 am
by Eunuchist (imported)
While I disagree that a bothersome libido is a "wrong" reason for castration (I also believe that removal of testosterone can be helpful in certain types of depression, myself having benefited from it), I agree that there are more or less safe, reversible drugs out there that
Paolo wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:49 am
mimic the effects of castration
and have been helpful for many people here in making a right decision for themselves. The drugs are also relatively inexpensive as a short-term "test drive". As I see it, the downside with chemical castration is that it tends to produce (depending on the type of drugs and dosage) a number of side effects that are not normally associated with surgical castration (breathing difficulties, liver toxicity, tumor susceptibility, etc.). It may also become relatively expensive to maintain an effective castration regime over time.
Surgical castration, while being the the most effective, quickest, cheapest and the most studied approach, is of course also a permanent one. It is permanent in the sense that it results in irreversible loss of testicles and fertility (unless one is already infertile at the time of castration). Today, what once have been an additional permanent effect of castration - loss of androgenic impact - have become mostly reversible by means of administration of various synthetic or bioidentical hormones for those who might be interested.
Having said that, I feel that a word of caution should be uttered against mind altering drugs such as SSRI's for the sole purpose of achieving impotence. These are powerful and dangerously unpredictable drugs that should only be taken as a very last resort, due to their association with lasting brain damage, the infamous debilitating "withdrawal syndrome" and other unwanted psychological side effects.
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 1:19 pm
by twaddler (imported)
Eunuchist (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:58 am
Having said that, I feel that a word of caution should be uttered against mind altering drugs such as SSRI's for the sole purpose of achieving impotence. These are powerful and dangerously unpredictable drugs that should only be taken as a very last resort, due to their association with lasting brain damage, the infamous debilitating "withdrawal syndrome" and other unwanted psychological side effects.
Yes -- say 'No' to SSRIs. I'm going through some really wonderful withdrawals right now and it is truly awful (like firecrackers going off in my head a couple times every minute or three -- painful).
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:05 pm
by MsJamie (imported)
I would recommend to go see a therapist. Seriously. Preferably one that is familiar with gender issues.
I'm not saying that you have a gender issue. The reason is that many therapists that don't work with gender patients will immediately consider you to be one, and you don't really need to be paying them to convince them of that when you need to be working on the underlying causes of the depression.
A good therapist will help guide you into making the correct decision regarding castration. If it is truly right for you, then they can certainly help you find an appropriate surgeon and provide the referral that you will need.
I was clipped at the beginning of February, and it was the best thing that I have ever done. Mine was done in the local hospital by a wonderful urologist who really knew her stuff.
I did mine through my health plan, and followed the Standards of Care for TS patients. Even though I did spend six months seeing a therapist every few weeks, it was quite helpful for many issues not related to my gender issues. I would put the total cost of the surgery, including the therapist visits, to be around $600 total. I suppose that my surgery was approved a bit quicker than most would be due to the fact I had transitioned several years ago, and it's apparent that I've been on female hormones for a number of years. Even if I had to double the number pshrink visits, it would still come in well below the cost of a trip to Philadelphia (if he's even still doing it).
Jamie
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:17 pm
by numnuts (imported)
You guys are so negative. Twenty one is an excellent age for castration.
Life is short. If everyone waited for the perfect time for the perfect reason to do the perfect thing, no one would ever leave the house and we'd all die sittin' in a chair watching Jeopardy.
And BTW, did you SEE the three way tie!? Is that THEE most amazing........ NOT!
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 7:34 pm
by jemagirl (imported)
Hi,
I just want to say that if your questioning wether this is for you, then the way to find out is not to just do it and see. That's not something I'm saying to be harsh. You are 21 now and you have many years to love or regret your decision. So that makes it most important to know for sure if this is for you.
You asked if there are any meds that will have the same effect as castration with out side effects. First of all, All medications have side effects, even placebos if they are made of sugar. In fact castration itself has side effects. So you have to do looking into this to see whether the benefits are worth putting up with the side effects. Chemical castration even with the side effects is minor compared to surgical castration.
This is one of those life choices were you really do want to have a guide... not to choose for you but to help you choose for your self the life that suits you best. So I also agree a counselor would be a great help to you. Plus it's how you lay the ground work for getting the surgery if you decide that is what you want.
Take care and don't rush into it.
Jema
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 10:18 pm
by OneBallBoi (imported)
No matter what, I always recommend a test drive of real castration by trying one of the chemical castration drugs. The real thing is serious and can't be undone. I have been on Androcur for over 3 years now.
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 2:02 am
by nonuts (imported)
I agree, chemical castration test drive is most advisable, however, being on any chemical drug for such a long time can have undesirable effects as well.
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Thu Mar 22, 2007 4:36 pm
by IbPervert (imported)
Ask your Doctor to put you on an antidepressant. Currently, I am on Lexapro and it has really suppressed my libido and my ability ejaculate has been greatly diminished....actually almost gone! Before Lexapro I could only read a page or two of a sex story before i had to jo, and now I can read whole stories...actually several sex stories..and not even get a erection. If you do not or can not afford a doctor then track down your local mental health clinic, and ask for help. It might take several trys at different antidepressants to find one that works with your body. I tried one that after two weeks gave me serve migraines, so keep trying.
Also, remember that beauty is only skin deep. Go out and Volunteer to help community groups, and meet people, get involved. I heard psychic Sylvia Browne say that first you have to be happy and comfortable with yourself, before anyone will be interested in you! So hang in there.
To be perfectly honest....God does not care how you have sex! Only your fellow man and religion care.
Sex is a gift for
1) us humans to enjoy
and
2) to procreate when needed.
One last item!
Fantasies are always better then reality!!!!!!
With that piece of advice you need to deal with your depression (or come to terms with) BEFORE getting your nuts removed!
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:37 am
by TheWannabe (imported)
Isn't it ironic that the thought of cutting off one's balls is only sexually attractive BEFORE it has happened?
And why is there only an emoticon for a penis WITH balls on a forum for eunuchs?! :-S
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:14 am
by wolfpuck (imported)
i have similar problems. failed relationships, trouble meeting people, the ceaseless need that never gets met.... and an afinity for femdom. I must admit, i have entertained teh thought myself, yet i know it would be a mistake. i can relate to the depression, i have troulbes with that too, especially considering my gf is gone.
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:21 am
by Kangan (imported)
TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2007 1:37 am
Isn't it ironic that the thought of cutting off one's balls is only sexually attractive BEFORE it has happened?
A castration fetish is definitely the wrong reason for being castrated.
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 8:46 am
by jemagirl (imported)
One way to help separate the aspect of fetish is to consider the idea post orgasm. In this case I would also say post clean up since that is one of the issues you feel strongly about. I do think think this is something that would be good to share with a therapist, as you would need to lay that groundwork any way. I say that inspire of my own phobia about therapists. For what ever reason you feel the desire to become a eunuch, it is very hard to resolve the issue on your own. We all need help sometimes even if it is with different issues and different aims.
Jema
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:38 am
by numnuts (imported)
Also, always discuss these issues with your parents and family. Tell them you want your danglie bits snipped away and chances are they'll either agree it's a good idea, or tell you it's been something THEY wanted to suggest to you for years, but never had the nerve to initiate the conversation. You'll probablyn all be very relieved.
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:32 am
by markdf (imported)
Kangan (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 23, 2007 7:21 am
A castration fetish is definitely the wrong reason for being castrated.
Exactly. A castration fetish is a reason to castrate OTHER people. A scalpel and a pad of waiver forms is all you'd need to get started. Or just a straight razor and some rohypnol.

(just kidding of course)
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:33 am
by Hairless (imported)
Hi guy: Don't let your perception of your looks hold you down. You are way too young to be cutting off your balls. Just because you haven't found that one girl that can look past the superficial and see the great guy underneath doesn't mean you won't. It would really be sad if you got castrated and then found the girl of your dreams. I have seen a lot of very attractive women with guys I didn't think were their match, but they did. A good personality will go a lot farther than looks. You may not be able to do much about your looks, but you can do wonders with a personality. If you ever think you would like to have kids, remember this. Two great looking people usually have not so great looking kids. Just an observation.
If you like being a male, I don't think you would like being a eunuch. Like the others have said try the chemical castration. Depo-provera is pretty easy to get. If you can stand to giving yourself a shot, by the third month you will know if you can stand being without testosterone. A couple months after that you will know if you can stand the hot flashes and the depression. Personally I couldn't get past the three month mark. I did go ahead and have my balls and scrotum removed and really like the feeling, but I take a testosterone shot every three weeks. I am an old guy though and didn't need my balls any more to make kids. They gave me four great kids, so they did their job well. Know I can enjoy being balless and still function as a man.
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:46 pm
by A-1 (imported)
Go jump off of a high bridge, but tie a bungee cord to your sack...

Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 10:00 am
by IbPervert (imported)
I believe that the root of most sex problems is religion, and its thoughts on how to control people! Life will be easier when you fully realize that God loves you period no matter if your good or bad. Also the feelings of Guilt is the difference between a good person and a bad person. Feeling guilty about masturbating and splashing semen all over the place is your parents talking! Its your priest, pastor, or rabbi talking. Its the world telling you "THIS IS HOW YOU SHOULD FEEL!" True feelings of guilt are things like stealing from the store. God sent you hear to learn and experience then report back.
One last thing, If you want to get rid of the nuts wrap them in hamburger then call in a pit bull!
ibpervert
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:19 am
by The Old Man (imported)
TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:22 am
I'm 21 years old. By now, it has become obvious to me that I am never going to find the girlfriend I want. I'm not handsome myself, and even start to become a little fat, yet I would never want an ugly girlfriend. Despite this, I don't consider myself superficial. I simply have been searching for a beautiful, sweet, cute, and intelligent girl. All my attempts over the years have been fruitless. I am now depressed and everything feels hopeless.
I have a lot of femdom fantasies -- I've had them since a little kid -- but I think I'm 50% submissive and 50% dominant. I have castration fantasies. This story I would love to have happen to me:
http://www.asstr.org/~Kristen/putrid/casparty.htm
Alright. I don't have the balls to cut off my own balls(!). Even if it was done in the way I want to to be done, or in a hospital without pain, I would probably regret it afterwards.
Yet I can't stop thinking of how nice it would be to finally be releaved from the constant pain of being overly horny all the damn time. I will most likely never get to live out my fantasies, not even if I become really rich. So wouldn't the most humane thing for me to do to get castrated?
Like many of you, the thought of a beautiful, dominant female forcing my balls off turns me on. But what's after that? I have read a lot about eunuchs, so I have a pretty good idea, but I don't think it's possible to fully grasp how it feels until you've done it. And I probably won't do it.
But GOD I hate the feeling of those stupid balls between my legs. It would be nice to just have a penis there. And frankly, I hate cleaning up the cum after I've jerked off. No cum would just be a pro side for me...
But I guess it's hard to get hard when you have no balls. Hrm...
Aren't there any pills that you can eat that have no side effects and simply make you lose interest in sex? I would love to learn about those. Especially if they are cheap. This would be much better than getting a castration, which is so definite and permanent.
I guess if there were any such thing, most of you wouldn't seek castration. But I guess I can always hope for them to come up with this "reversed viagra" pill. (I would buy from a spam mail if they offered me it!)
I strongly suggest that you try the least harmful experiments first. In my opinion, the least harmful thing to try is Tamoxifen. Taking 10 mg/day for a week should temporarily eliminate your libido, making it easier for you to think about your options. When you stop taking Tamoxifen, it will take about a month for your libido to return. I think that this is because the smallest size, 10 mg, is too much. Experiment with one tablet every two or three days and you will also have less risk of side effects. I have read recently that the original dosage determination (for treating breast cancer) were too high.
Don't use it with something else, like Androcur, which will, at the least, cause sterility if you use it too long. You don't need less testosterone if you lose your interest in sex.
Added later:
Tamoxifen costs about 40 to 60 cents per 10 mg pill, depending on where you buy it. Some web sites require a prescription, but the cheapest don't. Check their reputation before spending money. Typical, $40 for 100 pills, $29 for 60 pills.
These are not "reverse viagra" pills. They don't have any effect on your ability to get an erection, they don't keep you from getting an erection and having sex, and they don't keep you from getting a woman pregnant. Instead, they do exactly what you asked for; they "
" They affect your desires, not your abilities.
One interesting side effect; Tamoxifen slightly increases your testosterone level.
You said that "
" That kind of partner is hard to find, but if you do find her some day I thing that it will take care of a lot of your problems. Do you want both submissive and dominant the same evening, or do you want them on different days? If you are willing to just enjoy oral sex for a while without intercourse, you can be dominant when you bring her to orgasm, and she can be dominant when she returns the favor. If you didn't like what she did when she was dominant, take your turn again; as long as only the one whose turrn it is to be dominant can decide to stop, it won't take you long to both learn to play fair.
You said "
TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:22 am
I simply have been searching for a beautiful, sweet, cute, and intelligent girl.
" Beautiful is often a poor choice. Either she thinks too much of herself or whe knows she can find someone better than you. There is less competition for intelligent girls, and they have more imagination in bed. Furthermore, intelligence lasts, beauty doesn't. I'm not sure that sweet goes with 50 submissive and 50% dominant. "Sweet" girls tend to be submissive. If cute is important to you, you ought to be able to find that. In short, there's nothing wrong with knowing what you want, but be sure that you haven't excluded 100% of the female population. I strongly suggest that you have done that and there may have been nothing wrong with the way you looked for a girl friend, just none to find.
Do you have any female friends--just friends, not girl friends? If you have one that you are sure you can trust, you might think about talking to her after Tamoxifen has made it possible for you to talk to her about sexual things while making it clear to her that you've lost your libido and won't be making a pass at her. Sometimes, a female friend who you trust and who trusts you can be a great help. She doesn't have to be your own age, although I met my closest female friend when we were both in grade school.
I hope that you have found at least some of this useful.
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:40 am
by TheWannabe (imported)
The Old Man: You have no idea how badly I would like to have or have had a girl friend (as in just a buddy). It's always been a dream of mine. Never happened.
And the thing about 50/50 sub/dom is absolutely not some sort of requirement. I would GLADLY accept a 100% submissive or 100% dominant girlfriend. But it's not happening.
I draw the line where I don't feel attracted to a girl. Maybe I'm being picky, but what the hell? I can't be together with a girl who I am not attracted to, can I? Many girls actually turn me off just by their terrible looks.
It should be noted that I have tried hitting on those as well. No luck.
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 10:04 am
by kristoff
TheWannabe (imported) wrote: Sun Mar 25, 2007 9:40 am
The Old Man: You have no idea how badly I would like to have or have had a girl friend (as in just a buddy). It's always been a dream of mine. Never happened.
And the thing about 50/50 sub/dom is absolutely not some sort of requirement. I would GLADLY accept a 100% submissive or 100% dominant girlfriend. But it's not happening.
I draw the line where I don't feel attracted to a girl. Maybe I'm being picky, but what the hell? I can't be together with a girl who I am not attracted to, can I? Many girls actually turn me off just by their terrible looks.
It should be noted that I have tried hitting on those as well. No luck.
It is amazing how one's tastes and interests broaden with age! More and more people are attractive at a wider range of ages, races, weights, etc. You will eventually mellow your "pickiness" - I certainly did. I actually started to like real people and not expect Adonis and perfection of character and personality....
Re: Castration -- the only way out?
Posted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 11:51 am
by twaddler (imported)
Chemical castration as a test run is definitely a must.