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after a lot of thought I have decided to go ahead with castration and to use an elasterator.

I have rejected chemical castration as not being permanent, burdizzo as being too painful and results being too slow, I want to be rid of my testacles now not in a couple of years time.

Can anybody say how long I should wait after applying the band that I should wait before cutting my testacles off. Should I wait until they are dead and hence have no feeling or should I wait until they drop off.

Can anybody reccommend an anti-biotic to use.

manow69 (imported) wrote: Thu May 31, 2007 6:05 am after a lot of thought I have decided to go ahead with castration and to use an elasterator.

I have rejected chemical castration as not being permanent, burdizzo as being too painful and results being too slow, I want to be rid of my testacles now not in a couple of years time.

Can anybody say how long I should wait after applying the band that I should wait before cutting my testacles off. Should I wait until they are dead and hence have no feeling or should I wait until they drop off.

Can anybody reccommend an anti-biotic to use.

If you can get past the super intense pain for any length of time, wait about 10 days til they are thoroughly rotten. By that time of course, you will probably need to check in to the ER for any of several complications of this type of action. Course if you are gonna band and cut em, why not just do it in the Hospital parking lot and crawl in? When your done in ER and OR, you can get a nice vacation on MHU. Course you can always borrow my saws-all

manow69 (imported) wrote: Thu May 31, 2007 6:05 am after a lot of thought I have decided to go ahead with castration and to use an elasterator.

I have rejected chemical castration as not being permanent, burdizzo as being too painful and results being too slow, I want to be rid of my testacles now not in a couple of years time.

Can anybody say how long I should wait after applying the band that I should wait before cutting my testacles off. Should I wait until they are dead and hence have no feeling or should I wait until they drop off.

Can anybody reccommend an anti-biotic to use.

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It might seem an ideal way when you feel there are no alternatives but I've never spoken to anyone who has done it this way. In the one article I've read, the protagonist enjoying time in hospital with visits from the friendly, neighborhood psychiatrists... Seeing the pics didn't exactly instill confidence in the method either... Not an ideal scenario.

I'm not saying no one has ever done it that way but I've never read about anyone on here doing it with bands safely and/or successfully.

It might seem like a good low-risk idea but....so did many other things in life - a trip on Concorde and Christmas in Phuket - and look what happened...

A couple of bean shaped things in a little sack don't look like much but, unfortunately, they're a bit more than a skin tag...

No kidding, they are extremely tough little buggers. They seem to always bounce back, or is that swing back into shape.

If you do try this make sure your tetnus booster is up. Use lots of bands you don't want necrosis seeping back in. WAIT until they fall off. Be prepared to wait months not days. Have great Health Insurance and be prepared to let the whole world know that you didn't follow Krister's advice.

Talk to your health care provider. Ask what you need to do to get results.

I you live in southern California, Near Philadelphia, or Trinidad Colorado. You have been told which Doctors to get with.

With persistance you will either get castrated or comitted.

Remember that with an elastrator, the parts ROT until they fall off. I've done it to enough sheep to know that it's far from pleasant.

If you need medical attention once you've started the process, which is very likely, you will probably spend time under psychiatric observation. You will probably show up in the local newspaper with your name, and possibly your photograph, made very public.

At least in the U.K. you will not have the extremely high emergency room bill to pay that you would have in the U.S., but it would probably still be far cheaper in the long run for you to look into the O.R.R. in Belgium.

While you seem absolutely convinced that you will need to go through with surgical castration, I think that most everyone here would recommend a "test drive" with chemical first. It's not that expensive, it's quick, and it's reversible should you change your mind.

While someone here on the Archive may have successfully used an elastrator, I can't recall anyone writing about it. Your chances of success are slim. Your chances of disaster are high.

JesusA wrote: Thu May 31, 2007 11:28 am While someone here on the Archive may have successfully used an elastrator, I can't recall anyone writing about it. Your chances of success are slim. Your chances of disaster are high.

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It seems to me, the fact that there doesn't seem to be much evidence here of guys doing it with an elastrator (don't know about the bigger/stronger bands like eze or tri), that it's not as common as most believe. I think the *idea* of it can have sexy connotations but I'm thinking the reality is anything but. The few pics I've seen of guys who've used an elastrator had a surgical looking scar too, so I presume surgery was later involved.

I guess, if it was easy, everyone would be rushing to a band on...

I have seen pictures of elastrator castrations on BME.

None of them look like they healed properly.

Every one I have heard of ended up with hospital time to do repairs.

Pleassse don't do this, you'll regret it big time. Krister is right and even though Dr. Kimmel will cost you $2000. grand, all you've got to do is make an appointment and he'll remove your testicles with just a consultation. It's still the best and safest way to go. Hash

I'm considering banding myself. Here is a link with a lot of detailed information about doing it yourself:

http://www.bmeworld.com/tom3/elastrator.htm.

As I understand it, the greatest risks are infection because of the lingering dead tissue and bleeding because of the bands falling off. (Everyone seems to agree you should use more than one band.) At BME, they advise to cut your testicles off as soon as they are numb (12 hours) to avoid infection.

Personally, I don't know why one couldn't save enough of the scrotum after cutting to turn the scrotum up over the band(s) and perhaps tie the scrotum up or even sew it up (using lots of Benzocaine) over one of the lower bands into the dead tissue to prevent the bands falling off prematurely (which is the cause of bleeding). I would apply lots of Benzocaine in every orifice to prevent the serious type of infection called sepsis which comes on slowly and is probably the most frequent reason for going to the ER. Symptoms of sepsis can be found at www.Wikipedia.com.

Regarding others thinking you're crazy, I have talked to many people here where I live in San Antonio about castration and most agree that it is a personal choice that makes even more sense than abortion--especially in certain circumstances, i.e., being HIV+ and wanting to reduce the risk of infecting others.

It appears to me that we are quickly getting past the days when a man who desires castration is considered crazy. Thank God. (That's assuming he seems normal in most other ways which is sadly not the case with many here at Eunuch.com)

You'd be surprised. Many ordinary citizens are very much aware of how difficult it is for a man to get himself castrated safely. I'm amazed at the number of women I talk to about this who already know the score and think the system is much more crazy than the castration wannabe. Try finding an article on the Internet about some "crazy" castrating himself and you will likely find nothing these days. More and more people are getting sympathetic to us. I wouldn't pay too much attention to those who raise the spector of spending time at the local booby hatch--assuming you appear rational in most other ways.

Personally, I'm waiting for my first appointment with a shrink before I consider banding myself. But I have all the home equipment I need--including a Burdizzo--to make real the threat of doing it myself! Sadly, that is what I am told is needed to get the permission slip to have it done safely by a urolgoist.

Regarding medical insurance, if you have none, try your local welfare office.

At this point, all I will say is, if one is intent upon pursuing such an approach, you MAY be successful. You may live. You may die..... I would be very certain to have alternatives arranged - i.e., a friend who can assist, call for help, etc. Do NOT do this alone, assuming one is intent and compelled to do things this way. I would also recommend something stronger than benzocaine, notably after the fact. At least some hydrocodone or such.... And do remember how to dial 911 if needed.

Relative to the seeming wider acceptance of castration, don't even begin to think things are getting that easy. Hell, tell that to someone in the queer community in many / most areas. There are pockets of acceptance, but that is much more rare than common. It is getting better, but not nearly as fast as it ought. Same with castration. There is slow, painstaking progress, but not nearly enough....

And don't forget to be on the News! That's very helpful to enlightening the public, and the more aware the general public becomes of castration, the better chance there is of it becomeing popular.

Thank You for your efforts!

P.S. And remember to poop before you go the the Emergency Room. There's nothing worse than having to poop when you're in an ambulance or Emergency Room. Just FYI is all.

If you really can't be talked out of it, at least take a month or two and use a ball stretcher to make the scrotum as long as possible.

Then band as close to the testicles as possible.

That will leave the Doctors at the ER more to work with when you're brought in...

dometoo (imported) wrote: Sat Jun 02, 2007 6:30 pm If you really can't be talked out of it, at least take a month or two and use a ball stretcher to make the scrotum as long as possible.

Then band as close to the testicles as possible.

That will leave the Doctors at the ER more to work with when you're brought in...

Good advice.

...then there is the problem of 'rotten nuts' for a month or so.

Imagine going to the grocery store after the pain is gone and stinking up the place.

Or, going to work and again, stinking up the place...

Better get real here.

If you don't listen to reason she will come and slap you!

A-1 (imported) wrote: Sun Jun 03, 2007 12:13 pm ...then there is the problem of 'rotten nuts' for a month or so.

Imagine going to the grocery store after the pain is gone and stinking up the place.

Or, going to work and again, stinking up the place...

Better get real here.

If you don't listen to reason she will come and slap you!

Waiting for them to fall off is for the barnyard - not modern society.

Kangan (imported) wrote: Tue Jun 05, 2007 10:32 pm Waiting for them to fall off is for the barnyard - not modern society.

Elastrators are for the barnyard too, not modern society.

Why can't they make effective elastrators, or even burdizzos for that matter, for humans?

Is it the human physiology that makes these items ineffective? Or is it just that the inventors of these items didn't design them for humans?

Is it conceivable that these or other items could be perfected or created to do the same job on human males?

And has it not happened yet simply because there are no mechanical engineers with the desire to create or perfect such an item?

My guess is that the market for human castration devices is pretty small, even if not for the legal problems. --FLO--

Uncle Flo (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:49 am My guess is that the market for human castration devices is pretty small, even if not for the legal problems. --FLO--

I don't think the legal consideration would matter. It could be sold as a novelty. That kind of consideration is bypassed all the time. Even sex toys are sold as 'Novelties', not to be used on humans or something similar.

And they could also be touted as more effectively redesigned items for animals. (You ANIMAL YOU! He says in such an uncharacteristically gay voice) LIZA~! You look LOVELY! (Now that I'm drunk)

And btw, when is Eunuch.Org going to open an online store to sell T-Shirts, Coffee Mugs, guillotines, elastrators, burdizzos, etc. As novelties of course, with the Eunuch.Org Logo attached.

And what is the Eunuch.Org Logo anyway?

numnuts (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2007 9:30 am Why can't they make effective elastrators, or even burdizzos for that matter, for humans?

Is it the human physiology that makes these items ineffective? Or is it just that the inventors of these items didn't design them for humans?

Is it conceivable that these or other items could be perfected or created to do the same job on human males?

And has it not happened yet simply because there are no mechanical engineers with the desire to create or perfect such an item?

I'm experimenting with that right now. Stay tuned.

numnuts (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:44 am And btw, when is Eunuch.Org going to open an online store to sell T-Shirts, Coffee Mugs, guillotines, elastrators, burdizzos, etc. As novelties of course, with the Eunuch.Org Logo attached.

And what is the Eunuch.Org Logo anyway?

Logo suggestion: penis rampant minus testicles over a background of crossed swords (or chainsaws).

Kangan (imported) wrote: Wed Jun 06, 2007 11:32 pm Logo suggestion: penis rampant minus testicles over a background of crossed swords (or chainsaws).

or crossed recip saws...

the tri-bander is a great improvement over the green ring elastrator

The flat bands wont roll and are a lot more powerful.Dont know if the bands are as painful as the rings were.

The pain from the green rings was extreme after a while.

Has anyone left a tri-bander ring on

long enough to attest to how much pain it causes.

Some one did develop a burdizzo that was different

It was made by wimco.The normal burdizzo has the cord stops all on one blade and none on the other.Wimco used much smaller stops with one on each blade going in opposite directions.The jaws were offset and had much narrower edges than all the other burdizzo s I had seen before.It was called a emaculatome instead of burdizzo.It was also made of stainless steel.

When I first saw it I thought it would cut the skin of the scrotum because the edges looked so narrow.The vet that used it on me assured me it would not cut me and the bruising would be far less.

When it was applied to my scrotum I was surprised it left less of a mark than the burdizzo that we used on previous attempts.

The previous attemps with burdizzo failed to get rid of my testicles.The wimco cut my cords well and successfully castrated me .

I dont think wimco sells these anymore.The only place I seen them is on ebay.