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I did it.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 4:16 am
by Kangan (imported)
It is now a week after my final clamping experiment. Both balls are dead.

It was almost too easy. A $6 plastic woodworking clamp with flat jaws did the trick. Since my vas deferens had been removed in a vasectomy operation many years ago, I could clamp the cords quite easily. It is the vas that prevents a good result with the traditional Burdizzo clamp.

I clamped each side for one minute. Done. No blood flow to my balls. They are still there, but are non-functional now. It didn't even hurt that much - only a feeling of pinching like putting your finger in a vise and tightening it. The clamp had a self locking mechanism so that I didn't need to hold it closed once it was applied. I think a pair of flat face pliers could have worked as well.

Now the hot flashes begin.... I can still get erect but I don't really want to.

I do want to have the dead balls removed surgically. Next step - go see my GP and have a thorough physical and a T-test. Will he realize that my balls are dead? I'll keep everyone posted....

Re: I did it.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:07 am
by Kusanagi (imported)
congrats kangan on achieving your goal

Re: I did it.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:10 am
by ramses (imported)
I wish you eternal happiness with your eunufication!

Re: I did it.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:29 am
by Kangan (imported)
ramses (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:10 am I wish you eternal happiness with your eunufication!

Geez... I wish I had thought of that word first!

As to happiness, only time will tell.... So far so good....

Re: I did it.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:45 am
by Hot (imported)
congratulations on a job well done.

Re: I did it.

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:01 am
by ramses (imported)
Kangan (imported) wrote: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:29 am Geez... I wish I had thought of that word first!

As to happiness, only time will tell.... So far so good....

If you could do it again, would it be called re-eunification? 🍑👋

Re: I did it.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:16 am
by Kangan (imported)
ramses (imported) wrote: Tue Aug 28, 2007 5:01 am If you could do it again, would it be called re-eunification? 🍑👋

GROAN!

Re: I did it.

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 6:19 am
by Kangan (imported)
I'm fairly certain that my testicles are dead. Re-clamping the cords produces no pain, so cords are damaged for sure. Also, erections are less frequent, and hot flashes are happening. And I don't care so much about reading the stories on here either.... I used to log on daily - now it's weekly or just plain weakly....

Re: I did it.

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:41 am
by bryan (imported)
Kangan,

Congratulations on three counts:

1. You are rid of testosterone and its effects.

2. YOU DID IT YOURSELF...

3....WITHOUT a trip to the emergency room!

Prior to scheduling an appointment with Dr. Kimmel, I made a weak attempt at DIY castration. Modified vise-grip pliers to have a flat face as you mention. Mistook the vas deferens for the cords, plus I didn't have the heart to squeeze hard.

But like you say, the fact that your vas deferens was gone definitely helped matters.

Enjoy your new phase of life,

Terri

Re: I did it.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:06 am
by Kangan (imported)
bryan (imported) wrote: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:41 am Kangan,

Congratulations on three counts:

1. You are rid of testosterone and its effects.

2. YOU DID IT YOURSELF...

3....WITHOUT a trip to the emergency room!

Prior to scheduling an appointment with Dr. Kimmel, I made a weak attempt at DIY castration. Modified vise-grip pliers to have a flat face as you mention. Mistook the vas deferens for the cords, plus I didn't have the heart to squeeze hard.

But like you say, the fact that your vas deferens was gone definitely helped matters.

Enjoy your new phase of life,

Terri

Thanks for your kind words, Bryan.

It is wonderful to no longer have the urge to fantacize about sex all the time.

I still want them gone - but I keep putting off a visit to my doctor for a physical, as I am just too busy to be able to schedule any down time for an operation.

Squeezing the cord minus vas deferens was almost too easy. The pinch from the clamp was more of a squeezing sensation than real pain. Guess I was lucky.

Re: I did it.

Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:54 am
by Eunuchist (imported)
Kangan (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2007 5:06 am Thanks for your kind words, Bryan.

It is wonderful to no longer have the urge to fantacize about sex all the time.

I still want them gone - but I keep putting off a visit to my doctor for a physical, as I am just too busy to be able to schedule any down time for an operation.

Squeezing the cord minus vas deferens was almost too easy. The pinch from the clamp was more of a squeezing sensation than real pain. Guess I was lucky.

Well, I am also very happy on your behalf and that you seem to be doing well and are pleased with the results. I think that it was about time you had some success considering all the time and energy you've invested into this. Congrats! 🤘

BTW, I think that you can probably make a convincing case for an orchiectomy with your local GP, now that you very well may have a "valid" medical reason for the procedure. Of course, if confronted, you can always make up a good story as to why you ended up this way in the first place, without going in too much detail. However, at your age, the risk of developing testicular cancer is very low (and according to what I have read on the topic it doesn't seem that injuries elevate the risk too much) so unless we are talking about possible necrosis/infection, I don't think it's such a big deal if left alone for a (good) while. Another issue, however, is whether there might be some regeneration of testicular function over time. It's really hard to tell right away, you'd have to pay close attention to your feelings/behavior as well as sexual function and see if you can detect any important changes in this regard.

Re: I did it.

Posted: Mon Sep 10, 2007 5:25 am
by Kangan (imported)
Eunuchist (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 09, 2007 9:54 am BTW, I think that you can probably make a convincing case for an orchiectomy with your local GP, now that you very well may have a "valid" medical reason for the procedure. Of course, if confronted, you can always make up a good story as to why you ended up this way in the first place, without going in too much detail. However, at your age, the risk of developing testicular cancer is very low (and according to what I have read on the topic it doesn't seem that injuries elevate the risk too much) so unless we are talking about possible necrosis/infection, I don't think it's such a big deal if left alone for a (good) while. Another issue, however, is whether there might be some regeneration of testicular function over time. It's really hard to tell right away, you'd have to pay close attention to your feelings/behavior as well as sexual function and see if you can detect any important changes in this regard.

My thinking exactly. I'll tell the doctor that I slipped and fell onto a saw horse or something a while back.

Necrosis is something to be concerned about, hence the need for a physical somewhere down the road.

Regeneration is easy to take care of with my handy little clamp. I figure that if it hurts when I put the clamp to the cord, then something is trying to regenerate. (Now I am not a pain freak so I don't do this all the time....) It does make a good test to tell if things are dead down there or not.

As for sexual feelings: I still like to see my wife (or another woman) in the nude, but it doesn't excite me like it used to. Also, I don't think about sex as often or as deeply as I used to. Sexual intercourse with the wife has dropped from once a week to only once a month or slightly less. Orgasms still produce some fluid but the sensation isn't as strong. Oh yeah, I forgot to mention, I don't access the EA as often....:-\

One benefit is that I can now urinate with a good strong stream unlike before. No more getting up in the middle of the night, etc.:)

Re: I did it.

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:42 am
by Kangan (imported)
It has now been many months since I did the right side and about a month since I did the left side. There was some minor groin pain immediately after each clamping, but it faded. Now it is back and hurts quite strongly at times. I think that there is some healing or reforming of the damaged blood vessels going on as it is only the upper part of the cords inside my abdomen that hurt. The testicles are mostly dead feeling.

Any advice from folks with Burdizzo experience after-effects? I'm beginning to think that I might need the services of an urologist.

Re: I did it.

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 6:45 am
by mrt (imported)
Kangan (imported) wrote: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:42 am It has now been many months since I did the right side and about a month since I did the left side. There was some minor groin pain immediately after each clamping, but it faded. Now it is back and hurts quite strongly at times. I think that there is some healing or reforming of the damaged blood vessels going on as it is only the upper part of the cords inside my abdomen that hurt. The testicles are mostly dead feeling.

Any advice from folks with Burdizzo experience after-effects? I'm beginning to think that I might need the services of an urologist.

I had some long talks with a pain doctor and did a lot of "google" type R&D about chronic testicular pain which I had to deal with (A Urologist)

Here is what I think is correct. *I'm NOT a doctor. Check with real ones before you make any solid conclusions and or decisions. Testicular pain is often treated with a variety of schemes. NSAIDs, Support garments, Tens Therapy, Opiates, Injectable Nerve blocks and surgical nerve seperation as well as Orchiectomy. If we consider you as a sort of Do It Yourself "Orchiectomy" patient you would have what I think would be considered a "Scrotal" Orchiectomy because your nerves have been cut (Or crushed in your case) lower down. Inside the scrotum near the testicles. This from everything I've read is not very effective. I think its 55% cure rate for chronic pain. What makes it 90% Plus is to remove the testicles with the cords cut very high and the remaining stub of the cord heavly injected with nerve blocking drugs.

This is just me but I would speak to my GP, come clean on the history and ask him / her to refer you to a Urologist who is experienced doing Orchiectomy and have her/him finish the job correctly. Cut high and use nerve blocking meds. Unless they do it laproscopicly your going to come home with two very large scars along the public area. You may have inflamed the cords so badly that this won't work :( in which case your options are limited. In this case an expert in Pain Meds is your best choice.

Good Luck!

Re: I did it.

Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 9:56 am
by devi (imported)
My Congrats on your final eunichation.

Re: I did it.

Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:41 am
by Kangan (imported)
Mr. T, the pain is NOT in the testes, it is in the cords and then only intermittantly. You do make a valid point about the problems of surgery after the fact. I wanted a bilateral orchiectomy 30 years ago, but there was no way to get one then.

I would still like to hear from some folks who have used a Burdizzo or other tool to crush their cords. What can I expect by way of after-effects from having crunched cords and dead testicles?

Re: I did it.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:38 am
by mrt (imported)
Kangan (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 24, 2007 3:41 am Mr. T, the pain is NOT in the testes, it is in the cords and then only intermittantly. You do make a valid point about the problems of surgery after the fact. I wanted a bilateral orchiectomy 30 years ago, but there was no way to get one then.

I would still like to hear from some folks who have used a Burdizzo or other tool to crush their cords. What can I expect by way of after-effects from having crunched cords and dead testicles?

I'm sorry. I'm not doing a good job of saying this. The cords - thats my point. Leaving the cords in IS (I think)the problem. For men with Chronic Pain they did several studies. Those that had a scrotal Orchiectomy leaving significant length of the cord in had a 55% cure rate. Those that had an Inguinal Orchiectomy (Where the make an incision up in the pubic area, fish around for the cords and pull out the testes without touching the scrotum. Then cut the cord much higher up had 90%+ cure rates for pain. The cords are the problem.

Jerry? Are you reading this? He had to have a surgical "do over" where they went in and disected the cords later and he felt 100% better afterwards. He can tell you better then I.

If your "nuts are dead" as you reported - then it should not be a huge deal to get the remains and the cords removed by a surgeon. There is also (my opinion) an issue with carrying around a scrotum this full of dead material for a long time.

Re: I did it.

Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 6:43 am
by Kangan (imported)
mrt (imported) wrote: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:38 am If your "nuts are dead" as you reported - then it should not be a huge deal to get the remains and the cords removed by a surgeon. There is also (my opinion) an issue with carrying around a scrotum this full of dead material for a long time.

Thanks Mr. T! I agree that carrying dead tissue is not a good idea. The downside is that the abdominal surgery takes you out of circulation for a goodly while - and I cannot afford any downtime right now.... I'd rather go for the scrotal route and hope for the best. Still some downtime, but not as long.