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After being on Androcur for about 3 months 2 months castrated I have discontinued use about 2 1/2 weeks ago. The sexual urges are coming back. The 2 months of being castrated were the best in my life. I enjoyed seeing my penis shrink into the shaft skin and stay there, almost like not being circumcised. With manual stimulation I could still become erect. I masturbated a couple of times I think out of curiosity, and was happy to only get a very small amount of clear, watery ejaculate with a very week orgasm. I really enjoyed looking at pretty women and telling myself "Your castrated, you couldn't do it even if you wanted to" and not wanting to. I am going to wait a while and then order more Androcur. Next time though I am not going to end the castration so soon. Being castrated was just too enjoyable. The sexual urges and erections coming back are just not welcome.

Have you considered surgical castration, so you can enjoy being a castrate permanently?

I agree with xyzzxzx. f you enjoy being chemically castrated, you should go for the gusto and have yourself snipped permanently.

it would be a consideration, but to find the full effects, i would only do so after at least a full year of androcur. you got a small taste really, some effects dont set in for a long time, like depression and lack of energy and feeling weak all the time. I didn't start really getting into that till several years in. Just remember, in this decision, there is no undo button....

DonFL has it right. Six months should be the absolute minimum to make certain that it's right for you. A full year would be better.

It is a good indicator that you've been on Androcur for three months; liked the effects; and now don't like what's happening as you go off it. Don't do anything irreversible until absolutely certain.

I've got to concur with DonFL and Jesus, although I don't have all the experience and knowledge they do. I've been on Androcur for two months now and, like you, have never felt better in my life. I experienced really low energy shortly after starting on the drug, but have found that if I force myself to exercise I feel even as energetic as I did before Androcur. People have commented that I'm more energetic, calm and happy. This, along with my therapist's evaluation and the results of some heavy-duty psychological testing, confirms for me that I'm heading in the right direction. I've definitely got absolutely no libido 99% of the time and as for the other 1%, it doesn't really much matter. I'm extremely happy. I feel certain I'm transgender and male to eunuch. None the less, I feel it's an extremely smart thing for me not rush into castration. When I first saw my gender therapist 2 months ago I thought I'd wait three months and then I'd get castrated. Then Jesus talked some sense into me. I've got to give him a lot of credit here, I can be extremely stubborn. There really is no reason to rush. I'm already getting the effects of really low testosterone. Truth is, especially in the first few weeks on Androcur, I was having some problem imagining I could ever go through with castration. I don't really hate my testicles like some although I've never felt they really belonged on my body. Plus, I've got some other concerns about the detrimental side effects that can come with castration, like osteoporosis. So, I'm staying on Androcur for at least 6 months, as Jesus suggests, and possibly much longer while I get further experience with the effects of low T and have the time to very clearly determine, with what I hope will be mostly logical thinking, not emotions, what is the best answer for me. Right now, I can't imagine not being eventually castrated. OTOH, there's absolutely no reason to rush and every reason to be cautious. I am planning on getting a symbolic 'eunuch' tattoo. This, however, isn't a permanent change to my body chemistry. I very much identify with the eunuch community. If I'm not castrated in the end, I'll still be fine with the tattoo and I'll have wound up deciding to hang on to my balls. I think you're taking the right approach by trying Androcur again for a longer time period and I'd follow the advice of Jesus and DonFL on the length for that, too.

-todd

I have always wanted to be castrated, since puberty actually. Surgical castration is a big step that I don't think I'm really ready to take at this time. Trying chemical castration though has got me thinking that surgical castration may be what I really desire. I'm not ready yet though. I am going to wait for maby a month and go back on Androcur and see what happens.

Started back on Androcur about mid January. Am having trouble getting dosage correct, seems I went to maintenance dosage too soon. My sex drive is drastically reduced, but still getting morning erections and masturbating once a week. Am going to increase dosage for next month or so to get to castrate level desired. I'll see what happens.

You should stay on a dose for at least a month to see the effects. Most often you will need several months to get a better idea. I do not seem to see what dose you are on. Most seem to start out around 100mg of androcur (cyprotetone acetate) a day. For many that works well. After a month you may want to adjust the dose up or down 50mg a day as needed. You should only take as much as needed. Taking more then needed is unwise and can be dangerous. Once you shut down your balls taking more drugs can not shut them down any more.

Even if you have no testosterone in your system you can still get weak erections. You can still even have orgasm if you work long enough and hard enough. So you can not fully judge your "castration level" just on physical indicators. The true way is from a blood test. Too many think that castration will completely stop all erections and never have another orgasm. While it may happen for some, most will still experience erection on a lesser scale.

Hang in there and give it a true and long test. Wish you luck

I started with 150 (50 3 x day) for 2 weeks, then 100 (50 2 x day) for 2 weeks, then 50 (25 2 x day) My first experience I took 50 per day for about a month, then 75 for a couple of weeks. This didn't do it, but it did reduce sex drive drastically. Then I took 150 for 2 weeks 100 for 2 weeks and that did castrate me. On a maintanace dose of 50 I felt I was at a good level.

I have increased to 150 again and will continue this for the 2 weeks and go to 100 for 2 weeks then 50. I hope this will bring me to the same level I experienced before. I fully expect to be capable of erections, but not unwanted ones. I expect to be able to achieve orgasm. But as it stands I still feel the need to masturbate, I am still getting morning erections, and am still getting more ejaculate than my first experience.

I do not understand your reason for keep changing from a high dose to a low dose and back to a high dose. Do not think that is all that good on your body. Why not just split the difference and stay at 100mg for two months and see how that works. You can not really get a good test drive with only a few weeks at a level.

From what I have read, it is my understanding that the high dose will block the testosterone and the lower dose will keep it blocked. (Maintenance Dosage) This time I think I went to the maintenance dose before the desired effects were achieved. So I am trying by going back on the high dose to get to where I want to be, then maintain that level with a dose of 50 a day. Two months into this and

nonsex (imported) wrote: Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:02 pm I am still getting morning erections, and am

compelled to masturbate.

I do not think you understand what maintenance dosage really is. Once you have achieved castration effects you will need to take a certain level of the drug. That level in your case is not 50 mg as you have found out. The maintenance level for everyone is different.

Lets say you are on 100mg for a month and still get some morning erections and still compelled to masturbate. But when you are on 150mg a day you do not have these effects then your maintenance level would be 150mg a day.

Maintenance level is the dose that works for you that will give the desired effect. You should not have to increase or decrease over a long periods of time. This is the ideal amount of the drug that will work day in and day out. You will not have to make any adjustments every month.

You should never have to go to 50mg at any time. I am guessing that either 100mg or 150mg is what you need to be on all the time to reach your desired effects and your correct maintentance level of the drug.

bobbie (imported) wrote: Fri Mar 28, 2008 9:15 am You should never have to go to 50mg at any time. I am guessing that either 100mg or 150mg is what you need to be on all the time to reach your desired effects and your correct maintentance level of the drug.

When I was preop I used to be on only 50mg a day and that was easily enough. It had quite a marked effect and if I had taken any more I would have been too tired to do anything, and probably become depressed as well. As with all medications effects vary. 50mg may be a low dose for many, but better to start low and then see if you need to build it up.

I found that my desired dosage of Androcur to be 150 mg. I have not had an erection in about two months. I am loving the effects of chemical castration. I do not feel a slave anymore to my previous oppressive male sexuality.

The advice on the Inhouse Pharmacy website (from whom I bought my cyproterone acetate) is to start on a low dose and increase it only if necessary. I wonder if people are just being impatient for a result. There does seem to be a delay. I started on 50mg daily but it didn't affect my erections straight away. I quit taking the drug after 8 days as I was experiencing hot flashes in the form of hot prickly legs at night and I couldn't stand the loss of sleep. Despite quitting the cyproterone, my erections diminished until I became impotent by about the 3rd or 4th week. After a couple more weeks I started getting morning erections again, but it was many months before I was back to 'normal'. If my reaction to the drug in my short trial was anything to go by, I'd be surprised if I'd need as much as 50mg as a maintenance dose.

I am a big guy, 6' 250 pounds and 50mg of Andocur is more then enough to keep me at a T-level of under 80. I have been going back and forth between using DP and Andocur and the Andocur by far works the best to reduce my T-levels, my last test on DP( 150mg per month) was 160 and Andocur (50mg per day) six months later was 79. Also my liver fuctions are fine.

The only problem I am having is my doctor wants me to start HRT to get my levels back to normal. But I keep on telling him I am fine with the way I am.

cb2000user (imported) wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:26 am The only problem I am having is my doctor wants me to start HRT to get my levels back to normal. But I keep on telling him I am fine with the way I am.

Doctors just can not get it. Some guys just do not want to have testosterone in there system. They keep wanting to put us on HRT. Many do not even care if it is male or female hormones, as long as we are on one or the other. I went through the same thing with two doctors. They just can not see that I am more happy without the testosterone. You just have to stand your ground. Being on chemical castration drugs will make it more difficult. Just hang in there and stand your ground. Wish you the best of luck

I had the very same thing like Riverwind.

Androcur is very very powerful. I feel one cannot stress enough the factor of time.

So, I think, for most of us a low dose of androcur will be perfect. Swinging the doses should be disencouraged.

Take care,

Vesal!

I think I will try 100 a day and see if it is enough. Don't want to take any more than is needed.

I have been taking 100mg per day for almost 6 weeks. At 3 weeks I had my T level checked and I was at 66 and the reference level of 241-827. Over all I feel great and will be having my T level checked in a little less than 3 months. I don't get nocturnal erections or spontaneous ones but am quite able to maintain an erection with manual stimulation and have a quite satisfying orgasm. I was quite surprised with this but it is still early so this too might change. I hope to soon go down to 50mg per day and see if I still get the same results.

I quit taking the CA about two weeks ago (ran out) and now have a mild throbing and tenderness under my nipples. Has anyone else experienced this after stopping androcur? I shold have my supply of CA again next week.

ramses (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:38 am I quit taking the CA about two weeks ago (ran out) and now have a mild throbing and tenderness under my nipples. Has anyone else experienced this after stopping androcur? I shold have my supply of CA again next week.

When I had tenderness and throbbing under my nipples I got some breast growth.

ramses (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 30, 2008 8:38 am I quit taking the CA about two weeks ago (ran out) and now have a mild throbing and tenderness under my nipples. Has anyone else experienced this after stopping androcur? I shold have my supply of CA again next week.

I had this a 6 months ago followed by some small breast growth, the tenderness and growth stoped when I went back to Androcur and off DP.

i have tenderness and have noticed some breast growth after 6 months, but the tenderness comes and goes