Castration as social rebellion?

[EunuchAusTX (imported)]

I was wondering something. When I was castrated two years ago, I had it done for a lot of the same reasons as most of the voluntary eunuchs here (decreased libido, eunuch calm, etc.). But looking back I suspect the fact that castration is so strongly taboo in our culture was also a part of its appeal. I mean, there are fewer ways to place yourself squarely outside the mainstream than to modify or remove your genitalia, which can be attractive to social innovators and those with a strong desire to be different. So I want to ask the voluntary eunuchs (and wannabes) here whether the taboo nature of castration plays any role in why they had it done (or want it done). Any thoughts?

[kennath7 (imported)]

the taboo nature of castration . good question

no, it did not have any roll in the decision process

[mrt (imported)]

Being different is fine but my surgery had nothing to do with that. It was pretty simple. PAIN! I also wasn't too keen on my atrophied natal testicles. (More macho male stuff)

[chilliwilli (imported)]

Social rebellion, you bet. There is validity in removing a useless or detrimental part of oneself. A "perverted" submissive sexuality only works to serve another, or only serves an abusive social order. There is no "religion" to protect a submissive male from abuse. There are no social protections, if anything the system just abuses you more. Your just fucked!

A severe beating at the age of 4 or 5, and years of abuse in the name of feminism, turned me into a submissive male. My mind has been altered. Today, I would never allow a woman into my home. It would be like a sheep opening the door to a wolf. Cutting your nuts off takes it one step further.

So here, castration to avoid a life of more use, abuse, and turmoil as well as serving the social order could be view as social rebellion, most defineatly.

chilli-

[Uncle Flo (imported)]

A good point. I am sure that castration can serve as a form of rebellion. In fact, I would go so far as to say that it played some part, among other factors. in my decision to be castrated. --FLO--

[Dana Lane (imported)]

I am a wannabe Eunuch (at the moment but eventually want all my male bits eliminated) but it has nothing to do with social rebellion. I do find it funny, however, something I want for myself makes your average guy cringe.

[graylayer02 (imported)]

Dunno, I can think of much easier and cost-effective ways to mark one's self as different. A facial tattoo, a nose ring, a funny haircut, a trenchcoat in July, or a Borat speedo perhaps. What is or isn't in my pants isn't exactly visible for the rest of the world to see, and I'm glad. I mean, what if everybody had x-ray vision? :shakemitk

[chilliwilli (imported)]

I mean, what if everybody had x-ray vision? :shakemitk

Than we would all be the same.

chilli-

[dancinggizmos (imported)]

I have seen quite a few who have actually taken it like a taboo.

Especially us younger guys need to try something like depo provera or something else if it is soething wanted.

However I have heard a few younger guys who were much happier after a while after they hadthem rmeoved as they were not fighting being agressive and raping other girls. I have seen a positive effect, I howveer have heard another story where this other guy was notso happy about loosing them and goingthrough counceling as he had commited rape ona minor mid 20's as well as had other sexual issues and charges in the past. He however became a better person in society and decided to settle down. Must be Testicular hypofunction as this does exist and it can be treated as well.

It is a very diverse thing that people can do for various reasons.

I was wondering something. When I was castrated two years ago, I had it done for a lot of the same reasons as most of the voluntary eunuchs here (decreased libido, eunuch calm, etc.). But looking back I suspect the fact that castration is so strongly taboo in our culture was also a part of its appeal. I mean, there are fewer ways to place yourself squarely outside the mainstream than to modify or remove your genitalia, which can be attractive to social innovators and those with a strong desire to be different. So I want to ask t

he voluntary eunuchs (and wanna

bes) here whether the taboo nature of castration plays any role in why they had it done (or want it done). Any thoughts?

[nullorchis (imported)]

Quite the contrary. No one knows of my desire to be castrated, or of my current treatment (siterone) to reduce testosterone. Social rebellion has nothing to do with it. While I do not strive to "fit in" with the norm, I just don't need the complexities of being gawked at because my balls were removed, or because I voluntarily reduced my testosterone via chemicals. Should I ever obtain the opportunity to be surgically castrated I would do everything possible to keep it a secret. In that I am not sexually active that would not be difficult. Eventually though a MD exam would reveal the obvious. But I would have to try and make it due to some medical reason, not due to a voluntary choice. Thus, I am not fearful about being castrated, but am quite fearful in being found out that I was castrated by choice.

[chilliwilli (imported)]

I have seen quite a few who have actually taken it like a taboo.

Especially us younger guys need to try something like depo provera or something else if it is soething wanted.

However I have heard a few younger guys who were much happier after a while after they hadthem rmeoved as they were not fighting being agressive and raping other girls. I have seen a positive effect, I howveer have heard another story where this other guy was notso happy about loosing them and goingthrough counceling as he had commited rape ona minor mid 20's as well as had other sexual issues and charges in the past. He however became a better person in society and decided to settle down. Must be Testicular hypofunction as this does exist and it can be treated as well.

It is a very diverse thing that people can do for various reasons.

So in the cases listed it appears the exact opposite, castration as social conformity.

chilli-

[FianceeUvBigGuy (imported)]

Yoli here, enjoying the long-prayed-for rain.

Of "my" four castrated friends none were "done" as some sort of rebellious statement.

Barry T. Eunuch (friend and sex partner) was done for two reasons; To curb urges he had toward young boys and to satisfy his total bitch of a mother. (May she die in agony and roast in Hell!)

Houston Eunuch #1 was castrated to relieve "tensions", so far as he lets on.

Houston Eunuch #2 was, I suspect, castrated forcefully or given an "either/or" ultimatum of some sort (This IS Texas, after all.)

"Treasure", the Thai ladyboy I so enjoy, sexually and otherwise, sought castration to better feminize herself...it worked, natural breasts and all, but she has no desire to lose her tiny but tasty peepee and undergo SRS. Perhaps her parents viewed it as some sort of rebellion...I really don't know, but she was castrated before what we consider legal age...Fifteen, I think. EEEEK!

If the one prospective new eunuch I know, friend Marlene's "pet" fiance, gives her his balls as a wedding gift, which she wants and expects, it will be to please her and not to thumb his nose at convention. (I think it's about 60/40 he'll actually lose his balls for love.)

I can't see cutting off one's own nose OR balls to spite someone else...individual or society in general. If you want to really spite someone else...cut off HIS balls.

Y'know, with every passing day I'm increasingly grateful for being born with ovaries and a >^..^<, and that I grew some very nice bewbs!

Yoli

Official Soothsayer Of The EA

[jockey_elance (imported)]

If I had it done, I would want it to be a secret, and only tell certain people

If the one prospective new eunuch I know, friend Marlene's "pet" fiance, gives her his balls as a wedding gift, which she wants and expects, it will be to please her and not to thumb his nose at convention. (I think it's about 60/40 he'll actually lose his balls for love.)

That sounds like a much better reason. I would be flattered if someone asked for my balls.

[Eunuch2be (imported)]

I would have to say that my desire to become a eunuch was in the form of rebellion against my family.

For many, many years I have struggled with Gender Identity Disorder to the point of actually taking the gender transformation pathway back in 1996-1998, having to give it up due to financial dificulties.

Around 6 years ago the possibility of becoming a eunuch came up and I came accross this website. And I looked forward with hopeful anticipation. Because I was raised in a very close family, albeit a conservative religous one also, their reaction to going through gender transformation and SRS scared the living daylight out of me. So when I came accross the possibility of having 'the boys' removed it was like a light at the end of the tunnell. Something I could do, no one could stop me, and better yet, no one would know. Unless I told them.

While my initial reason may have been a bit of rebellion, over the convening years I truly have wanted to lose the balls, as I really have no need for them.

Recently I have restarted my transition to womanhood, knowing that losing my balls would not sufficiently satisfy my desire to be female. I still look forward to having 'the boys' removed if not near the present time, then when the final chop chop is done.