Orgasm after castration

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I totally agree. I've been a eunuch for three years (although I did use HRT for one of these years!) but have been off for a little while now.

But it's true the chest does become a very sensitive but I only Very recently realised that it can also be an extremely erotic area because of this (http://www.eunuch.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=8091) (not to mention personal!)

One thing I have noticed is that orgasms can be much softer and don't have that shock factor that they did with high levels of teststorone. However, I recently found that with gentle nipple stimulation and stimulation of other parts of the body I found it possible to reach a point at least as good as before I was cut.

But maybe it's fair to say that sex has changed for me as a result. Not better or worse, but it does change subtly. The skin, touching becomes much more important. Maybe the whole 'foreplay' thing becomes a little more important? http://thefraj.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/GIF ... tongue.gif As I guy I was never much for 'messing around' with these things, but I do feel they're important now.

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🙏 Cheers ♥Jessy!♥ for digging this post out! So many people I meet who just assume that "castration is the end of the sex life for all eunuchs". True - without Mother Nature forcing heavy urges on eunuchs I suppose it could be for those who choose this path. But important to remember this is not in all cases http://thefraj.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/GIF ... /happy.gif

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WHat you mean the shock factor? SO you still get hard orgasam and jcak off?

This is really special.

I hope I make a good decision to be cut or not to be.

What do Dr's say when you are cut. MY reason will be for Orchitis infection and some testicualr pain.

Not sure what to think about it but I want to make sure I make a good decision afraid of depression and avderse changes.

Hopefully I will be ok though after I am done which is the plan.

Looks as if I will be scheduled around Dec to be done.

Look foward to it as long as all goes well for me.

I am a little scared.

Guess I will be in bed a week though after I am done.
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I suppose what I'm trying to say is that orgasm on full male hormones is like an incredible blast - rather intense and leaves me exhausted!

This will change after the cut! It's still very nice, but don't expect the same intense physical experience you know now. It can still be special, but will change.

The most difficult explaination I have with doctors is when they ask why I was cut. The truth is that I was never happy identifying as male. I never liked all the urges, thoughts and hair that accompanied the masculinity. I don't know! 😄 I suppose it all comes under the heading of gender dysphoria.

But please be careful, May. You're still very young. Is there not a way to eliminate the pain without going to such extreme lengths?

That fear you mention is quite rational. Please listen to it! It is part of you. The fear can be the doubts and apprehension you have about going through with this surgery. There is a reason for this. An inner conflict you need to fully explore before doing something irreversible

Castartion will change your life. What you make of it then is up to you. But I beg you to think very carefully what leads you to this decision before making the choice on a whim.

I pray you make the best decision for your future. And I'm always here if you want to PM me privately (or email me!) about this.

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ephemeral (imported) wrote: Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:29 pm I did get quite tired with no testosterone but I wonder if female HRT would help with that. I expect female hormones would probably reduce my ability to orgasm but as someone said, Kelly I think - whats the big deal about orgasm anyway? I can really enjoy my body and that of another without it.

My first round of Rx female HRT, I learned a lot. (just started an herbal alternative last night(no funds to cover Rx)). Anyway... back to the topic. Orgasms. Well, I guess I should talk about the mechanics of stimulation first.

There's so much I could talk about, but that'd take a whole book. I'll just work with one sense right now: touch (ALL of them are important, but tactile sensation is probably the only thing that can be controlled adequately and immediately).

<warning, you will probably think a lot of this is utter bullshit, and that is your right>

I have learned that there really is NO SUCH THING as an erogenous zone, ie: an area of the body that is specifically linked to sexual enjoyment. ANY part of the body can be stimulated in a sexual way, even the back of your hand. Sure there are extra sensitive areas; breasts, ears, mouth, sexual organs, etc, but these areas also have an insanely high nerve count. It only makes sense that they would be used for sexual, er, stuff. Now, why do I mention this? Society. In the world at large (to my knowledge, aside from some religions) males are brought up worshiping their penis. They can't get past it, because it is so obvious. They get so locked onto it that they don't bother looking further, and it is the only thing they can experience sex through (until you get into buttsex, of course).

Women, on the other hand, get a larger variety of goodies to play with. They've got boobies, and vaginers, and all sorts a' curvy bits. Males enjoy playing with these bits, thus women are more all-inclusive in their wiring. They experience sex with their whole being, instead of through a quite falliable leather balloon.

This isn't limited to just sex, either. Women allow themselves to feel much more than men do, all the time. Why do you think womens' clothes are so soft, and have tight, flat seams? Same reason mens' clothes are the opposite: women can feel their clothes, men want discomfort to ignore.

(note: this was explained to me QUITE bluntly by the girl living in the room behind my eyes, even before I knew what the hell I am. She is a very good cranial electrician.)

Okay, so barring the oddball (not a pun) that breaks away from programming, you can see (and hopefully not disagree too much with) my theory's foundation.

And that's just SOCIETY's part, merely programming that can be BROKEN, with a mere thought, and a tickle(or possibly a wardrobe expansion *shivers at the feel of super-high thread count uber-stretchy cotton shifting across its back*). If childhood/adolescence can program something so stupid into the mind of a young male, just imagine what testosterone(or, *wink-wink* estrogen), an incredibly powerful neurological agent, will do to tactile sensations.

<Observed, yet personal FACTS. YMWV>

After a couple of weeks on estrogen (estradiol, 1mg/day) I noticed a sudden JUMP in the length of orgasm. Maximum 7 secs(old) to average of 15 secs. Slightly, only very slightly less intense (though sometimes much, much more intense, to the point that I wouldn't have the energy to masturbate again for 3 days).

Not long after this, I got to thinking about the differences in the mechanical sensations for men and women. I had all the info sorted already, I just hadn't sat down to digest it, collate it, and prepare the report for my conscious mind (I was still trying to define myself, no time for reports on the difficulties of programming a human). But I worked at a fairly automated job at the time, so I had a lot of idle brain cycles.

I decided to put the information I had just compiled to use. One weekend (I gave myself a lot of time to play around, in case I got it right) I got out the 'ol palm, and lay down to wank it good. I did a bit of image training first, visualizing all the parts of my body, all the nerves 'n stuff, feeling around to see how they were connected, locking them into various states of feel. (equivalent to the opposite of not feeling pain, just takes practice). Then I sorta re-wired my body. Only took a thought, really, and while it wasn't permanent, I can switch to super-feel in an instant (I'm kinda scared to, but the reason is coming). Then I looked at the alarm clock for the first time. (I missed the times for some things, but the important ones I can't forget if I try)

So I'm lying in bed, drowning in horny feeliness. I look at my cock, and demand it be a clit(I was going for the fabled multiple orgasms women are known for). It's uncut, so in all actuality it has the exact same hardware as the standard clitoris (well, i've had some metal bits installed since then, but you get the point). Well, since I had just turned my 'rod' into a 'bud', I decided it should be handled in a manner fitting its form (imagination at work).

I had never tried any of this before, well, in the purpose, but not the method. I experimented with different angles of rub, different pressures, different speeds. Due to my uncutness, my head is hypersensitive, and while I could take a great deal of pressure, any speed at all was just too intense to bear. After about 45 minutes (and a LOT of spit-lube), I finally found something that worked, I got into a groove, and waited for something to happen.

0917 : It happened slowly, like a sunrise. I started feeling a 'whiteness' (I use 'white' because it felt LITERALLY like a color) start creeping into me. There was a small seed of this pure white energy sitting somewhere around mid-abdomen. It felt very, VERY good. I felt it as much as I could, until I noticed another feeling. One that I couldn't have ignored if I'd been dead.

0921 : It was white as well, but different. It had a little blue in it, and while the first one was warming and comfortable, this new one was aggressive, and full of power, jagged, and hungry. I wanted it, and it wanted to consume me. (I might point out that I should probably have called it quits right here. I was already well past the pleasure/pain boundary.) So there was this powerful, electric feeling building at my extremities (Hands/feet). It just (rather annoyingly) kept building. It was almost like the surge before orgasm that I normally experienced. After a little while building, it started creeping up. Elbows, knees, back. I lost control of my breathing. I managed not to shout, but only barely (seems it isn't ALL fake).

0924 : I'm thrashing about quite badly, I catch a glimpse of the clock as I flail and pant obscenities, and I STILL haven't reached the top of the climax. It just keeps building and building, the blue-white lightning washing back and forth in waves, my vision going white for spells.

0931 : After roughly SEVEN minutes of building up TO orgasm, I literally can't take anymore. I have reached sensory overload, and my body stops responding. Every muscle goes limp, all at once, and I lie paralyzed for half an hour, unable to do more than blink and try to catch my breath as the cold sweat evaporates.

It's been two years since that first experiment, and though I've tried to repeat it several times, I'm just too damn scared to go all the way. There are some points of note to consider, however.

The way I did it, it would work for a completely limp dick (mine went down to half-wood about twenty seconds into the experiment, due to overstimulation).

Probably anybody can do it. All you have to do is change the way you think a bit.

Meditation/mind-body control techniques will probably intensify/prolong the time you have to enjoy yourself.

A partner would be a BIG help, especially if you have an anal toy handy, but you'd have to work together very well.

I'd be glad to answer any specific questions any of you might have in greater detail. Just cut-quote or PM me, heck even AIM me @ airforsguy, and I'll do my best to help you explore what works for you.

Disclaimer: Your Mileage WILL Vary. This worked for me, and will probably work for a lot of people (well, the ones with sexual organs anyway), but I make NO guarantees. It will probably not happen fast, and it will probably end only in being incredibly worn out a few times. I (mentally) trained very hard (though not specifically for this) before I even attempted this, and withouht knowing myself as well as I do, would not have even been able to start.
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Lets see an orgasam what is that as i seamed to have forgot what they are but who cares not me.
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Alex (imported) wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2002 7:23 pm By the way - is it true that a man always ejaculates and feels orgasm during castration?

In one word

NO
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gentletim (imported) wrote: Wed Apr 24, 2002 1:30 am I was castrated about 3 years ago. I sometimes awake with early morning erections and if I have intercourse at that time I usually have an intense orgasm with tiny amount of ejaculate.

The rest of the day I do not have erections, nervous aggression, or other horny feelings even though I work all day in close physical contact with very attractive women who are often in various degrees of undress (I am a beautician).

The "eunuch calm" has been a real career saver for me because before I was castrated I would have almost constant erections, would be wet from pre-cum, would have extremely painful blue balls for long periods till I could hardly stand up straight, and could hardly concentrate on my work. Sometimes it was impossible to hide my erections and some of my clients were offended by this. Now, none of this is a problem and it is so good to not suffer from the daily blue balls.

My girlfriend prefers intercourse in the evenings. I am usually extremely slow to erect and it usually takes her 15 or 20 minutes of fellatio to get me hard enough to penetrate her. I have to work very hard to achieve an orgasm, maybe half the time, which is always dry. My girlfriend loves long, slow intercourse so this works out well for us, in fact I get so much pleasure from giving her intense multiple orgasms that I often forget about having a climax and just enjoy her reaction which seems to intensify with each additional orgasm she has. During long periods of intercourse, after about 20 or 30 minutes, I have intensely pleasurable feelings in my cock, much more intense than before I was castrated but less intense than an orgasm. This feeling motivates me to keep pumping to enjoy this feeling but I really do not care whether or not I have orgasm whereas before I was castrated all I could think of was to reach the climax. When I do not ejaculate or have orgasm I seem to be able to continue pumping indefinitely, as much as 1 or 2 hours or until my girlfriend can not stand it anymore. Then, interestingly, I have no frustration with stopping intercourse without orgasm

Perhaps the most interesting thing is that on those evenings when my girlfriend does not get me hard I can lie naked beside her, holding her breasts in my hands, even with my limp cock between her legs and never get hard, horny, or frustrated.

I did not have erection, ejaculate, or feel orgasm during castration.

Gentled tim

Seemes like you had a good experieance being castrated and you are happy with it.

I want to make sure I am also happy with it.
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When the prostrate is excited, orgasm occurs.

If there are no balls, then there is no semen or cum.

The two are not excluvely linked....
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Well, what do you do with a drunken sailor? --FLO--
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(acting as lawyer) : you do not have to answer that on the grounds you may inseminate yourself
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I do'nt know if I had an orgasm when I was being being castrated as I was totally out of it and It was three days before I was in any way aware of what had happened, but I doubt it is as my penis was a mass of black and blue tissue with a catather coming out near my anus as the penis was such a mess it was not possible to insert a cathether in the pee hole. i had two dribble events soon after and nothing since. Five years and five months a Eunuch and I have to admit I rather enjoy it.
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As I was reading these posts I realized I had not seen most of these people in years, then I looked at when they posted, it was years and years ago.

resurrected as it were.

If there is interest in this topic maybe we should start a new thread?

River
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If a person jumps off a bridge in Paris is he in Seine?
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smoothie36 (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2012 10:34 am If a person jumps off a bridge in Paris is he in Seine?

Depends on rather the Pont Neuf or the Pont des Arts.
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The Orgasms are imagination.. You mind likes to play games on you.. No way as a eunuch will you ever achieve an orgasm again..
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I still have wonderful orgasms I just do not have ejaculate.
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Kelly_2 (imported) wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2002 10:11 am A TS woman is a transsexual woman--one born with testicles and a weenie. A post-op TS woman has had her testicles removed and her weenie inverted, and thus is a form of a eunuch.

But, most of us can indeed orgasm.

Love,

Kelly :) :) :)

Of course all the evidence we have is anecdotal, but I just recently read that only 20% of post-op transsexuals can reach orgasm. Not to mention of all the post-op transsexuals I know, none of them can orgasm. Having said that, about 40% of transsexuals have no sexual desire at all and are not worried about losing a function they never use anyway.

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Elizabeth (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:30 pm Of course all the evidence we have is anecdotal, but I just recently read that only 20% of post-op transsexuals can reach orgasm. Not to mention of all the post-op transsexuals I know, none of them can orgasm. Having said that, about 40% of transsexuals have no sexual desire at all and are not worried about losing a function they never use anyway.

I'm not sure where you're getting your numbers. According to this guide (http://www.google.com/url?q=http://tran ... yvJnVMOLQg), 63-94% of post-op MTFs can have orgasms. In most cases, retaining orgasmic potential is one of the primary surgical goals.

Almost all of the post-op trans people I happen to know are female-to-male. Only about one has chosen to have genital surgery.

Note: most FTMs want chest reconstruction, and many want hysterectomies with oophorectomies (largely to prevent cancer, but also to allow them to use a lower dose of testosterone without reactivating the ovaries), but relatively few have any interest in the genital surgeries that are currently available, since they tend to give rather poor aesthetic results, and may also lead to loss of sensation. Many of those FTMs who do choose genital surgery have a minimally invasive one called metoidioplasty, which has a low risk of reducing sensation.

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When I was finally totally castrated by Dr. Kimmel, I was lying there on the operating table watching him as best I could, smelling the putrid smell of burning flesh. I did not orgasm while being castrated. He cut off my remaining testicle, held it up to me and said, "This does not look good, it's good you had it removed." It didn't look good from all the years of abuse I had inflicted upon it. After getting home, I remember experiencing the eunuch calm for a few weeks, I was able to achieve erections and did have intercourse. My first orgasm without my testicles felt different, it was not as intense and lacked the force of when I had testicles. I distinctly remember that I was able to remain erect for long periods of time, but during intercourse I seemed somewhere else, I couldn't stay focused, didn't really seem to care about achieving an orgasm myself. My wife noticed and said I was a disinterested partner, making her feel that I didn't desire her, which was important to her, it helped her achieve her own orgasm. After a few weeks a deep dark depression came over me, it was terrible and fortunately I was able to get help. I started a low testosterone regimen and have been using it ever since.

I can orgasm occasionally now, but it's nothing like it was when I was intact. I'm 54 and so being older and being a eunuch have diminished my sex drive and desire. Weeks go by without any real sexual thoughts or desire. My penis has shrunk quite a bit, my wife who is the same age doesn't seek sex or desire it, she said recently she just likes to cuddle, which is ok with me. Last night I woke up with what I call, regressive penis syndrome, it's my term for what happens to my penis sometimes at night. On ocassion, I wake up at night with the sensation of my penis shrinking further or the feeling as though my testosterone is leaving me, I don't know how to describe it. It could be the result of insufficient testosterone, extra stress, I'm not sure, and I don't know why it wakes me up. But when it happens, my already small penis becomes extremely limp and useless. It doesn't respond to touch or any contact. It's a strange sensation and doesn't happen often, but be prepared for these type of things once castrated.
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Orgasm is NOT Ejaculation..... an orgasm is not just a release of energy it is also a gaining of energy that can be circulated through the body an internal full body orgasm... most of it is in the mind,i can orgasm with no stimulation.
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Well i'll try to explain my situation.

My testicles were worked with a burdizzo almost an year ago. I experimented all the consequences: testicles dead, penis shrunken (it's now 13-14 cm: it was 19 cm before). I hade my testicles and scrotums removed at last.

It seems nevertheless that my adrenal testosterone keeps me capable of some residual erection, altough it is not like before. I have feelings during sex that i could really call orgasms, especially when i have my penis stimulated. Dry orgasms obviously.
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I was cut in oct last year 2011, i was horny for it for many years even to crawling on the vets table to get cut

and after jerking off the morning of 2 times. i was horny the day after but didnt jerk off because my spermatic

chord was just freshly cut and i didnt want complications. i continued to be horny but after 3 weeks i was no longer

horny like i had hoped i would be and i can't get hard at all. i am not on hrt yet as i am not sure how to explain to my doctor

how i lost em and dont want to get the vet in trouble
Andrew (imported) wrote: Sun Apr 21, 2002 9:29 am Castration stops SPERM production. Boy, does it ever!

😄 😄 😄

After that, we enter the realm of YMWV = Your milage will vary.

As time goes on, the prostate tends to shrink without testosterone, and as it does the amount of seman produced also decreases. But if the eunuch can orgasm, he will still have some ejaculate. Eventually the eunuch, assuming he can still orgasm, will have "dry" climaxes. How much sexual activity a eunuch can maintain after castration is, ofcourse, one of the biggest YMWV aspects of men in our condition.

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littletits (imported) wrote: Mon Feb 13, 2012 9:46 am I do'nt know if I had an orgasm when I was being being castrated as I was totally out of it and It was three days before I was in any way aware of what had happened, but I doubt it is as my penis was a mass of black and blue tissue with a catather coming out near my anus as the penis was such a mess it was not possible to insert a cathether in the pee hole. i had two dribble events soon after and nothing since. Five years and five months a Eunuch and I have to admit I rather enjoy it.

mind telling us the story or what you remember of that night?
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I remember nothing of the event that robbed me of my manhood. I was knocke unconcious. I know now that I was kicked square in the crotch by our stallion. My nuts were mushed and serious damage done to by penis. My pubic bone was fractured. When I came round I was totally devestated but after a time came to accept the situation and enjoy this new experience. My penis is almost dead, totally impotent and erogenous feeling only in a small area on the underside of the glans. The rest of it is the same as a finger or toe and it is now very shrunken. I have never had an orgasm since and my doc. tells me I never will. Thankfully I have no sex drive whatsoever and I am quite content. If you want to be castrated this is not the way to go about it.
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Hey zero,

Male ejaculation occurs due to orgasm, it's the physical response to stimulation, physical or mental. Could you explain how you achieve an orgasm in your mind?
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